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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
But you're getting emotive and moral about it because it was stella - I don't believe you'd have batted an eyelid if it was a can of coke.
exactly whats the world coming too keiran you must be a member off the pc brigade from your comments lol
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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What I would suggest is;

If he's willing to drink a can of beer whilst driving, it's highly likely that he drives under the influence.

Not wanting to dramatise things, but it's all very possible by intervening you've saved someones life today.

I say report him Mr Burns. More people like this off the road, the better.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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I think you have done the right thing, but i would have reported him. There should be a zero tollerance on drink driving.
Who is to say that it was his first can it could have been his 4th for all we know or it could have been his first.
If he has the ***** to drink alcohol behind the wheel then its probablly not the first time he has done it.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
because by the time I reported it, he was well away and impossible to find (we were less than a mile from the M1). Plus it would be impossible to prove he was drunk while actually driving the car - this did come up in conversation with the Police.
Well done for reporting him anyway
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Just for reference - I still CAN report him, but the Police officer did say that getting him for DUI would be impossible.

However, the video DOES show him drinking while driving, so I can give evidence and make a statement for due care
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns

So, was I righteous pillock, or doing my bit?
Pillock
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
Just to clarify - he WAS breaking the law - driving without due care. If a copper REALLY wanted to be arsey he could charge you with due care for eating a sweet while driving. (the actual act of unwrapping it and putting it in your mouth would qualify)
I don't think it works like that.

You can be in perfect control of a motor vehicle whilst drinking or eating.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
I agree. What if that was his first slurp?

I think you've jumped the gun
100% agree I dont drink when I am driving, also dont think your head cam could be used as evidnce because you are filming without permission or warning that you are filming.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobiepaul
100% agree I dont drink when I am driving, also dont think your head cam could be used as evidnce because you are filming without permission or warning that you are filming.
not relevant - it's a public place so there is no expectation of privacy (and helmet cams have successfully been used in prosecutions in the past)
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Just curious after reading this thread.

I've just been out cleaning my car whilst having some tasty alcoholic beverages. Now the police always come down to turn around in the carpark at my apartment, could they do me for having the keys to my car on my person whilst more than likely being over the limit whilst cleaning my car?
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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No - the keys have to be in the ignition, then you are drunk in charge of a vehicle
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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I'll make you a deal, you pour that drink away and I'll not report you to the Police. How's that?"

So, from that statement that you gave to this motorist you have now spoken to the police and reported him!!

by the time I reported it, he was well away and impossible to find (we were less than a mile from the M1).


Seems to me Kieran that you are no better than he is, you have simply renaged on your word!!!
Not a very good light to shine on yourself no matter if the guy was in the wrong

A MANS word is his bond.

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
How do you know he did?
Thats the thing. It was a question in itself.

We don't know do we but if he had another drink before hand Mr Burns done us all favour before his driving became impaired.

Steve
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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I still cannot understand why he didn't pop you right on your butt?
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Good job I didn't see him.

A drink driver put my dad in hospital for a year and in a wheelchair for life.

In the wreckage of the cars they found empty beer cans in his. Now I am not really a betting man but I would put money on the fact he was drinking cans while driving along.

If it was him being distracted by the drinking or the drinking itself that made him to cause the crash I guess I will never know, but my blood boils whenever I see / hear stuff like this.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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No offense Kieran but posting this thread makes you look a bit of a ***** in my book.

Pathetic power hungry cyclist looking for trouble with motorists.

Like most of them the saddle has pushed you d1ck onto your head.

Chop
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chopper.
No offense Kieran but posting this thread makes you look a bit of a ***** in my book.

Pathetic power hungry cyclist looking for trouble with motorists.

Like most of them the saddle has pushed you d1ck onto your head.

Chop
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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No-one has said he was drunk in charge!!

I wouldn't drink beer whilst driving - that's not for any reason other than I wouldn't enjoy it.

BUT, I would (and do) have a bottle of water in my door and I swig from it now and again whilst driving ... if a cyclist told me to pour it away, well - I wouldn't be able to contain myself!

Clearly we need to be clear - are we against the act of drinking beer ... or against the act of drinking ANYTHING?
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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I don't think the idea of a Cyclist going around filming everything, and threatening to report people to the police, playing 'Junior G-man', is very cool at all.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Well done Kieran!

Drinking any alcohol and driving is wrong in my books.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I don't think the idea of a Cyclist going around filming everything, and threatening to report people to the police, playing 'Junior G-man', is very cool at all.

It's not like that - it just so happens that I had the camera on at the time - I bought and use it to film daft and fun stuff (with the odd rant and bit of stupidity)

For example:

http://youtu.be/y3p2mWtuRHI?hd=1

As to reporting crimes to the Police? You mean you don't?
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Not sure why anyone would drink alcohol while driving
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Was you sure it was beer in the can did you take a sample of it when poured onto the road?

Did you report him for littering too?

Whereas I can understand why you did it and I feel you are lucky not to have been confronted for it (maybe as he didnt it was an admission of guilt)

I think simply shaking your head at him may have been the right thing to do, as your not a copper you are a simple admin on SN, unless the power thing is too much you have to tak eit out on joe public (did you thin he was PSL?)
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
No - the keys have to be in the ignition, then you are drunk in charge of a vehicle
I was told you can be done just for having the keys on your person (if you're in the car drunk), they don't actually need to be in the ignition.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chopper.
No offense Kieran but posting this thread makes you look a bit of a ***** in my book.

Pathetic power hungry cyclist looking for trouble with motorists.

Like most of them the saddle has pushed you d1ck onto your head.

Chop

+1

Self righteous cyclist tells anyone who will listen he "did the right thing", so proud is he, he posts it on here..

Clearly your so proud of you semi confrontation you have HAD to post it on SNET for all the "followers" to applause.....hows that back fire feel for you?....
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
not relevant - it's a public place so there is no expectation of privacy (and helmet cams have successfully been used in prosecutions in the past)
Not sure about that, how come all film on the news/pictures in the papers have the number plates of cars and faces of drivers blanked out?
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I was told you can be done just for having the keys on your person (if you're in the car drunk), they don't actually need to be in the ignition.
I was told this too by a copper. It's something to do with intent with the keys on your person, bit like getting done for carrying a knife regardless of your intents with it.

Otherwise when I go out to Leeds and Rave till 6.30am I'd simply go back to my car, unlock the door and sleep on the back seat. I was told I could face prosecution for this even if the key never touches the ignition block.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulC72
(did you think he was PSL?)


There would have been a WHOLE different story to report on then!!
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
+1

Self righteous cyclist tells anyone who will listen he "did the right thing", so proud is he, he posts it on here..

Clearly your so proud of you semi confrontation you have HAD to post it on SNET for all the "followers" to applause.....hows that back fire feel for you?....
Even though my title even suggests I'm open for opinions? I relate the story so people can express their opinions.

It had nothing to do with my mode of transport at the time - that was simply how I was able to notice what was happening.

Think of it this way (and again something for people to consider - and precisely why I did relate the story) would you report a crime / confront someone committing a crime? THIS is what I was getting the debate started about.

I find your own confrontational attitude interesting, you look for the worst reason as to why someone would do something.
Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chopper.
No offense Kieran but posting this thread makes you look a bit of a ***** in my book.

Pathetic power hungry cyclist looking for trouble with motorists.

Like most of them the saddle has pushed you d1ck onto your head.

Chop



It could of been his birds stella,and he was having a sip

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