P1's - are they all the hype?
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There are several on pistonheads, cheapest one ive seen is 5k, had an engine rebuild, but I dont want a P1 (far too many cars as it is ) then there is one saying the P1 was built to rival the type R's, well how can that be? its more of a barst@rdised version of a type R, then they go on to say its lighter... shows you how much they know
You can pick up a good P1 from 6k, doesnt have to be a dog even, its what the people at the time wanted, a JDM car for the UK market, and this is what they got.
It dumped alot of the good bits off the type R as well (climate control got binned and the crappy uk aircon was fitted and they didnt go for the rear 2 pots as per the type R) though there was the option of the WR upgrades, even the rear spoiler was a nice one off (HT auto's did those for Prodrive I believe) plus the original number was "only" 500, the rest were added when the first 500 sold, thats why you see lots of W and X reg ones, the Y and 51 plate ones are the ones that they couldnt shift...
It could have been "alot" better, but this is what I.M. wanted, if Prodrive had their way then it would have been better and they would have been able to spec it from the factory.
Tony
PS, I do own a MY99 version 5 type R, she needed a little bit of tlc but is a great car, I prefer my MY03 Spec C limited though, its just a much more precise point to point car than any classic ive driven (and quicker )
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The PI is a Gay toned down version of the Type r..End of story..Only thing id ever consider 'borrowing' off a p1 to enhance a Type r is the front splitter!
Type R is the real drivers car
Type R is the real drivers car
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Loved my P1, easily the best looking and most iconic scoobies ever (22bs) aside. Couldn't even consider another scooby, they went downhill after (jap spec c's aside) and don't hold a candle to the newer Evos.
DCCD is a gimmick anyway, you'd be better off with ACD/AYC
DCCD is a gimmick anyway, you'd be better off with ACD/AYC
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A standard P1 does have its flaws but I would not change mine for a Sti 5 , 6 or whatever. I'm not saying one is better than the other, ju.st I prefer having a UK car with full history and with better looks IMHO. 22b is the ultimate impreza but at £25,000, ownership is for more wealthy people than myself.
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I own a P1 but my favourite is either the RB320 or a WR1........
not many subarus hold their price these days because most are desperate to sell..........
can't comment if a P1 is the best as I have not driven any others except an my99 turbo 2000.........but it wipes the floor with that LMAO
not many subarus hold their price these days because most are desperate to sell..........
can't comment if a P1 is the best as I have not driven any others except an my99 turbo 2000.........but it wipes the floor with that LMAO
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Anyway, this is the sort of thread that is just going to go down the usual route with p1 owners saying they have the best cars. Yeah they are good cars but there is better out there in the range.
If the question is uk only cars then the story changes as in my opinion the better ones never officially made it to the uk dealers
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I have owned an sti impreza, and an evo 6. civic type r, etc blah blah... My P1 is buy far the best motor i have ever owned, certainly one of the quickest and best looking subarus ever produced! (and i've not spent a 100k)
The sti's were good, Prodrive took it and made it twice the car!
No question for me!
The sti's were good, Prodrive took it and made it twice the car!
No question for me!
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[quote=Guinness;10015148]I did...I think the Sti6 rear spoiler and front lip look miles better than the P1 stuff..
shhh you shouldnt post that on here alot of people will read it,i bet you made a few quid on the parts you took off and replaced them with parts that only cost a 3rd of the price
shhh you shouldnt post that on here alot of people will read it,i bet you made a few quid on the parts you took off and replaced them with parts that only cost a 3rd of the price
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[quote=deco c;10015241]The PI is a Gay toned down version of the Type r..End of story..Only thing id ever consider 'borrowing' off a p1 to enhance a Type r is the front splitter!
Type R is the real drivers car
the p1 is a more grown up and better looking version of the type r
Type R is the real drivers car
the p1 is a more grown up and better looking version of the type r
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I own a p1 and i decided to buy it purely for its looks as i deem it the best looking, well maybe the rb320 on par.
Common though guys, were all subaru owners here. We shouldnt be slagging different variants off. Pick on the Evos instead.... hehe
Common though guys, were all subaru owners here. We shouldnt be slagging different variants off. Pick on the Evos instead.... hehe
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[quote=TonyBurns;10015211]Not really,(YES REALLY I SEE IT ALL THE TIME)
they are 11-12 year old cars now, you could buy a 12k one with 28k on the clock, drive it up the road and the engine could let go,ID SAY IF THE ENGINE HASNT ALREADY BEEN REBUILT THEN ITS A TIME BOMB AS THESE CARS NEED TO BE USED NOT SAT IN A GARAGE
There are several on pistonheads, cheapest one ive seen is 5k, had an engine rebuild,WOULD YOU REALY BUY A P1 OR TYPE R OR ANYTHING WORTH LOOKING AT THAT CLAIMS ITS HAD AN ENGINE REBUILD AND ALL THEY WANT IS 5K? I THINK NOT
but I dont want a P1 (far too many cars as it is ) then there is one saying the P1 was built to rival the type R's, well how can that be? its more of a barst@rdised version of a type R,YOU CALL MORE REFINED BARST@RDISED? HMM
then they go on to say its lighter... shows you how much they know
You can pick up a good P1 from 6k, doesnt have to be a dog even, its what the people at the time wanted, a JDM car for the UK market, and this is what they got.
It dumped alot of the good bits off the type R as well (climate control got binned and the crappy uk aircon was fitted and they didnt go for the rear 2 pots as per the type R) though there was the option of the WR upgrades, even the rear spoiler was a nice one off (HT auto's did those for Prodrive I believe) plus the original number was "only" 500, the rest were added when the first 500 sold,YES THE FIRST 500 SOLD SO FAST AND THE DEMAND WAS HIGH SO ANOTHER RUN WAS PRODUCED
thats why you see lots of W and X reg ones, the Y and 51 plate ones are the ones that they couldnt shift...
It could have been "alot" better, but this is what I.M. wanted, if Prodrive had their way then it would have been better and they would have been able to spec it from the factory.
Tony
PS, I do own a MY99 version 5 type R, she needed a little bit of tlc but is a great car, I prefer my MY03 Spec C limited though, its just a much more precise point to point car than any classic ive driven (and quicker ) STANDARD?
they are 11-12 year old cars now, you could buy a 12k one with 28k on the clock, drive it up the road and the engine could let go,ID SAY IF THE ENGINE HASNT ALREADY BEEN REBUILT THEN ITS A TIME BOMB AS THESE CARS NEED TO BE USED NOT SAT IN A GARAGE
There are several on pistonheads, cheapest one ive seen is 5k, had an engine rebuild,WOULD YOU REALY BUY A P1 OR TYPE R OR ANYTHING WORTH LOOKING AT THAT CLAIMS ITS HAD AN ENGINE REBUILD AND ALL THEY WANT IS 5K? I THINK NOT
but I dont want a P1 (far too many cars as it is ) then there is one saying the P1 was built to rival the type R's, well how can that be? its more of a barst@rdised version of a type R,YOU CALL MORE REFINED BARST@RDISED? HMM
then they go on to say its lighter... shows you how much they know
You can pick up a good P1 from 6k, doesnt have to be a dog even, its what the people at the time wanted, a JDM car for the UK market, and this is what they got.
It dumped alot of the good bits off the type R as well (climate control got binned and the crappy uk aircon was fitted and they didnt go for the rear 2 pots as per the type R) though there was the option of the WR upgrades, even the rear spoiler was a nice one off (HT auto's did those for Prodrive I believe) plus the original number was "only" 500, the rest were added when the first 500 sold,YES THE FIRST 500 SOLD SO FAST AND THE DEMAND WAS HIGH SO ANOTHER RUN WAS PRODUCED
thats why you see lots of W and X reg ones, the Y and 51 plate ones are the ones that they couldnt shift...
It could have been "alot" better, but this is what I.M. wanted, if Prodrive had their way then it would have been better and they would have been able to spec it from the factory.
Tony
PS, I do own a MY99 version 5 type R, she needed a little bit of tlc but is a great car, I prefer my MY03 Spec C limited though, its just a much more precise point to point car than any classic ive driven (and quicker ) STANDARD?
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If you want grown up then buy a legacy..
And as for P1 being better looking..I dont think so..I personally prefer the look my own Type r over a P1
If you want grown up then buy a legacy..
And as for P1 being better looking..I dont think so..I personally prefer the look my own Type r over a P1
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Wouldn't call it a gimmick or it wouldn't have been fitted to all of the new sti's from about 2005 onwards.
Anyway, this is the sort of thread that is just going to go down the usual route with p1 owners saying they have the best cars. Yeah they are good cars but there is better out there in the range.
If the question is uk only cars then the story changes as in my opinion the better ones never officially made it to the uk dealers
Anyway, this is the sort of thread that is just going to go down the usual route with p1 owners saying they have the best cars. Yeah they are good cars but there is better out there in the range.
If the question is uk only cars then the story changes as in my opinion the better ones never officially made it to the uk dealers
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a legacy? thats not grown up thats oap well you will obviously prefer the look of your type r because its yours (no offence legacy owners)my standards are a bit higher hence the p1
a legacy? thats not grown up thats oap well you will obviously prefer the look of your type r because its yours (no offence legacy owners)my standards are a bit higher hence the p1
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LOL..Its nothing to do with standards..You can pick up P1s in ireland now for similar money than type r's..
I just chose to buy the more superior machine
LOL..Its nothing to do with standards..You can pick up P1s in ireland now for similar money than type r's..
I just chose to buy the more superior machine
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LOL..**** all..Thats just a dreamer..Id say a P1 in good condition is worth 6k strling max..
Well in Eire it is anyway...Be lucky to get 7500 euro for one over here..
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[quote=jayallen;10015407]So what makes this P1 worth 13k?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm
that is strong money and im not quite sure why its priced so high or what he spent 10k on?
but i know why this 1 is worth 15k
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm
that is strong money and im not quite sure why its priced so high or what he spent 10k on?
but i know why this 1 is worth 15k
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm
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[quote=deco c;10015422][quote=snake1906;10015395]
LOL..Its nothing to do with standards..You can pick up P1s in ireland now for similar money than type r's..
I just chose to buy the more superior machine
i agree the price of a p1 has dropped to match the type r but p1 parts are much more exspensive compared with a type r so although they may cost around the same money they cost more to take care of,just so you know what i mean p1 boot spoiler £2600 sti v6 spoiler £1100 current price new
LOL..Its nothing to do with standards..You can pick up P1s in ireland now for similar money than type r's..
I just chose to buy the more superior machine
i agree the price of a p1 has dropped to match the type r but p1 parts are much more exspensive compared with a type r so although they may cost around the same money they cost more to take care of,just so you know what i mean p1 boot spoiler £2600 sti v6 spoiler £1100 current price new
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anyway fellas ive had great fun on here tonight some genuine people but as always a few not so genuine,i love all scoobs and am not slating any of them there are some very nice examples of all models modified or in standard form,if i get time ill come back and argue some more tommoro lol
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anyway fellas ive had great fun on here tonight some genuine people but as always a few not so genuine,i love all scoobs and am not slating any of them there are some very nice examples of all models modified or in standard form,if i get time ill come back and argue some more tommoro lol
Its been a pleasure
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This is what you can get for £13,000. Bargain.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2773756.htm
So what makes this P1 worth 13k?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm
that is strong money and im not quite sure why its priced so high or what he spent 10k on?
but i know why this 1 is worth 15k
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2769182.htm
that is strong money and im not quite sure why its priced so high or what he spent 10k on?
but i know why this 1 is worth 15k
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2761485.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2773756.htm
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This is what you can get for £13,000. Bargain.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2773756.htm
WOW !!!
Could be the best car you could ever own !
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2773756.htm
WOW !!!
Could be the best car you could ever own !