Yes, but she's older and even saggier....













and luckily not on SNet!

 

Let us be the judge of that

 

Pervs, the lot of you!

 

Once we get 'a sniff' , we won't let go! (Like a dog with, er, a bone(r)).

 

And your point being?

 

I agree and there are other factors, youth being one as to be honest kids are a liability, I think a lot of the transgressions I see, especially in London are young lads mainly, on trendy fixie bikes that probably have never driven a car. I think on a bike that if you rely on other people doing the right thing and being careful instead of looking after yourself and assuming everyone is out to get you then you are on a hiding to nothing.

People dont take pride in their driving these days, just picked the kids up from school, trying to negotiate a roundabout in rush hour is bad enough but when nobody indicates its worse, on a slow moving bike its murder, just saw a bloke an a CL Merc go right the way round without indicating, now surely if you have automatic everything flicking a little lever occasioanlly isnt that much of an imposition, they then get irate when you go to pull away.

To be honest I dont like driving any more, the roads are like a third world country, last years patches are already now just additional grit strewn over the road and every road seems to be lined with litter, makes me want to emigrate.

 

you know full well what I meant

by cycling 2 or 3 side by side they make it dangerous as you need to overtake in places you would not normally have to, if they rode in single file everyone could use the road without issue.

 

No, YOU make it dangerous.

You can overtake safely when there is no oncoming traffic. There is no danger in that.

These 2 abreast cyclists don't do in on commutes, this is usually on fairly quiet roads at weekends/lighter evening. E.g me!

 

No it's any club riders really who train or ride in big groups. It's actually safer as a group to ride two abreast since it makes motorists more aware of your presence and mean they cannot try and ignore you. Some groups can have 50, 100 riders easily and that is a long single line!

There is more to it than 'two abreast', it's a double pace line and you keep rotating it so riders only spend a bit of time at the front. It's a totally legitimate and essential way to train. You can't rotate a single pace line whilst keeping it a true single line.

For what it's worth on very narrow roads I have been in groups who will ride single file to make it easier for motorists, or go to single file if a car appears. All groups keep an awareness of cars behind and someone at the back shouts 'car back' to alert the group.

 

I wouldnt say the A6 is the place for it, we had to follow a set of cyclists 3 miles as they were to ignorant to pull in to allow us to pass. how does that make that me making it dangerous?

 

Its not so much cycling three abreast,its carrying on doing it knowing you are causing a hazard to vehicles trying to get passed.When i used to go cycling with mates,we would either cycle in a single file if traffic was heavy,if it was just the odd few vehicles passing now and then then yes we would spread so we could ride next to each other and pull back to single file when it was needed,now some not all just don't appear to give a damn.The three cyclists that were holding the line of traffic up the other day,were actually looking back at the vehicles and laughing/sniggering.Why couldn't they just go into a single file until the majority of traffic had passed,instead of causing a hazard and laughing...I don't expect cyclists to ride right in the gutter,but i found that keeping 50cm from the kerb was enough,depending on the size of the road obviously.

 

Well, those cyclists may have been ******, but not ALL cyclists are ****** like this thread would lead us to believe....

 

It's no more a hazard than a slow moving tractor or invalid carriage.

 

Ah resorting to insults - are you the angry little man in the BMW

You passed safely when a gap came available - well done. A safe pass, and no danger to anyone.

BTW what would you have done with the 3 minutes you'd have saved had they been single file?

 

Or horses. I had to follow three slow moving horses the other day....until I could safely pass. I was on my MTB bike.

No danger to equine beast rider, or cars. Welcome to the country.

 

Yes it's outrageous...the sheer inconvenience to car drivers!

/I bet some of the people on this forum like to floor it past horses as well!

 

I was in a 26 tonne lorry at the time actually, so overtaking when they are riding like that literally means they are putting their lives in my hands, it certainly wasnt 2 minutes more like 15 minutes.

you cannot just overtake easily and safely when you are in a heavy goods vehicle. im a safe driver and I never overtake unless its safe to do so, if they had been single file I could have passed safely straight away.

that much time can make the difference of getting another load or not, so they have a direct effect on my wage packet.

yes, I thought better of the insult after I had put it and removed it, you are though.

 

Get your maths straight - 3 miles behind a group of cyclists, probably doing between 15 and 20 mph, would mean a delay of somewhere between 6 and 9 minutes

Hardly the point though, the only sure way to lose in this sort of situation is to allow it to stress you out.

 

Yes they are putting their lives in your hands (are you god?) and clearly you passed when it was safe and as a result were 15 mins late - which means they were doing about 5mph ave.

Had they been single file no doubt you would have just gone for it and squeezed them in the gutter.

They should be writing you a letter of thanks everytime you pass them.

 

you really are a typical bike rider.

 

I assumed he would have been going 60mph in car - 3 miles in 3 mins and the group of cyclist would be around 20mph average - 3 miles in 9 mins

In fact he'd have been doing 40 mph ave...whilst rolling a ***, on his phone and eating chocolate...because he is king of the road.

 

And you are a typical big fat.....


.....trucker

 

lol im not fat

 

surely we can all agree that caravaners a cvnts

especially when those nobeheads drive 2 abreast down a country road

 

lol ive got a caravan, I shall get my revenge on cyclists in that way

 

yes maybe i can see your point..

But i have known tractor drivers to pull into a lay by and let traffic pass,i have not seen for sometime a group of cyclists do the same..

Actually i might get a new mtb and hit the trails again ...

 

Cyclists should pay road tax, as they are cunts

 

one thing i will add to this thread are the cycle races i get round my area, now i don't mind people riding there bikes for exercise or to commute but when there are about 100 people racing on a public road and you have massive groups taking up narrow village lanes it can get quite dangerous.

 

Get quite dangerous for who?