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Old 09 March 2011, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
Real World is a lovely studio - one of THE most impressive Control Rooms & SSLs I've ever seen. And he owns SSL
Do you work in music production? If so you will no doubt appreciate the effort Gabriel puts into the sound of his recordings. There is little that sounds as good technically on a proper hi-fi system than a Peter Gabriel recording.
Old 09 March 2011, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Why do you find it amusing? The two eras are completely different. Gabriel's Genesis was epic in its vision whereas Collins' version just went after the big bucks afforded by chintzy rock pop.

I suppose it's just music on two different intellectual levels really.
Since the part about Collins being a member of the band during both eras obviously went clean over your head, I'd best move on to another thread
Old 09 March 2011, 10:30 PM
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Old 09 March 2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
Since the part about Collins being a member of the band during both eras obviously went clean over your head, I'd best move on to another thread
Since the fact that they were like two different bands (and I was there so I do know) due mainly to the fact that Gabriel wrote nearly all the material prior to his departure went completely over yours yes please do run along and find something you actually know something about to comment on. Good luck with that
Old 10 March 2011, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Since the fact that they were like two different bands (and I was there so I do know) due mainly to the fact that Gabriel wrote nearly all the material prior to his departure went completely over yours yes please do run along and find something you actually know something about to comment on. Good luck with that
Got to go along with that. Gabriel was a very unique, if that's the word to use, Genesis. Collins was very commercial.
My favourite instrument in bands has always been the drums, and Collins is one of the best, but for originality you can't beat Gabriel.
You only have to look at the pop charts. Genesis never rated highly in the singles when Gabriel was the lead, but when Collins took over it all changed.
I prefered the old format
Old 10 March 2011, 10:21 AM
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Can't blame him for carrying on if they are prepared tp pay him for doing it though.

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Originally Posted by markjmd
I've always found it rather amusing the way people dissed Collins-era Genesis (and Collins himself), given that he was just as much part of the band during the Gabriel era'

Great drummer, and only sorry I never got to see him play.


Yeah, he was a part of the band, but when he took over from Gabriel, he was trying to be too much like him. As I said earlier, I love 'Trick' and 'Wind', but they were just too 'samey' after that.

IMHO
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Shame to knock Collins, he did somne great stuff with Genesis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0pHP...&tracker=False
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not sure where the phil hate comes from, at least he doesn't need autotune to be as good live,,,, lol

all joking aside, i'm sure his music is not to everyones taste, but i don't think anyone can claim hes crap. His extreamly good with drums and he does good vocals.
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Originally Posted by MattW
Shame to knock Collins, he did somne great stuff with Genesis.
Yes he did, it was called drumming! And then Peter Gabriel left.

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i'm a bit younger then the rest of you so i can't look at genesis with the rose tinted spectacles, they weren't as great a band as most older people had made out to me. i've tried listening to some of there songs and they just weren't that great. i also find the only decent song gabriel done was the only one anyone under 40 knows him for which was sledgehammer.

but then when we get to Phil Collins, i guess alot of the hate comes from him being a bit of dick, but you can't doubt his music, the best of collection is always in my car ready to listen to when i need a good sing a long and a bit of fun in the car.
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Perhaps he just decided to sit back and let a chocolate bar eating gorilla do the drumming in the future

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Originally Posted by belliott69
i'm a bit younger then the rest of you so i can't look at genesis with the rose tinted spectacles, they weren't as great a band as most older people had made out to me. i've tried listening to some of there songs and they just weren't that great. i also find the only decent song gabriel done was the only one anyone under 40 knows him for which was sledgehammer.

but then when we get to Phil Collins, i guess alot of the hate comes from him being a bit of dick, but you can't doubt his music, the best of collection is always in my car ready to listen to when i need a good sing a long and a bit of fun in the car.
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Originally Posted by belliott69
i'm a bit younger then the rest of you so i can't look at genesis with the rose tinted spectacles, they weren't as great a band as most older people had made out to me. i've tried listening to some of there songs and they just weren't that great. i also find the only decent song gabriel done was the only one anyone under 40 knows him for which was sledgehammer.

but then when we get to Phil Collins, i guess alot of the hate comes from him being a bit of dick, but you can't doubt his music, the best of collection is always in my car ready to listen to when i need a good sing a long and a bit of fun in the car.
Yeah OK!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Shakes head ... walks away whistling!

what can i say, my musical taste is spot on.
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Originally Posted by belliott69
i'm a bit younger then the rest of you so i can't look at genesis with the rose tinted spectacles, they weren't as great a band as most older people had made out to me. i've tried listening to some of there songs and they just weren't that great. i also find the only decent song gabriel done was the only one anyone under 40 knows him for which was sledgehammer.

but then when we get to Phil Collins, i guess alot of the hate comes from him being a bit of dick, but you can't doubt his music, the best of collection is always in my car ready to listen to when i need a good sing a long and a bit of fun in the car.
No disrespect intended here, but what has age got to do with enjoying a piece of music.
My ringtone is a song that was around before I was even a twinkle in my Dads eye
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I am amazed that anyone would admit to listening to Phil Collins.
Perhaps they are being humorously ironic.
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Originally Posted by Lee247
No disrespect intended here, but what has age got to do with enjoying a piece of music.
My ringtone is a song that was around before I was even a twinkle in my Dads eye

no disrepect taken, what i was trying to say (not very well i may add), there seems to be different types of music that seem to be more acceptable in differnet age groups. funnily enough where i work most of the people are around my age and when we saw that Collins was retiring all of us were talking about how much we enjoyed his music and that we didn't find genesis to be much cop at all.
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Originally Posted by belliott69
no disrepect taken, what i was trying to say (not very well i may add), there seems to be different types of music that seem to be more acceptable in differnet age groups. funnily enough where i work most of the people are around my age and when we saw that Collins was retiring all of us were talking about how much we enjoyed his music and that we didn't find genesis to be much cop at all.
You work with people who are hard of hearing? That's very honourable
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
You work with people who are hard of hearing? That's very honourable
well i try to do my best for the world as you well know.
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#...Woooah oooah ooh #

Love all Genesis albums upto and inc. Abacab (and obviously Three Sides Live).

Not so keen on the commercial, more 'poppy' albums i.e. from Genesis, Invisible Touch, etc...

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Originally Posted by belliott69
no disrepect taken, what i was trying to say (not very well i may add), there seems to be different types of music that seem to be more acceptable in differnet age groups. funnily enough where i work most of the people are around my age and when we saw that Collins was retiring all of us were talking about how much we enjoyed his music and that we didn't find genesis to be much cop at all.
Well, you can have a chuckle at this. My fav music at the mo' is Ministry of Sound and Faithless and I am in my forties Oh and I am very, very partial to Muse.
I love music, no matter what era. Phil Collins was a fantastic drummer, but he could never compete with Gabriel on the unique sound. Most of his songs, like I said, were very commercial. I like things a bit different.
To each their own.
Listen to the backgroung music. That is my ringtone. You can blame Pulp Fiction for that. I love the song, but Christ, it is one old song
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I take it we can embed vids now then .........btw saw Lamb lies down tour about `75 I think. Took about 3 days for my mouth to close after all that awe. Seen Genesis about 3 times Gabrieless at Knebworth after that, different sound, enjoyable in a slightly different way. I still think Phils an underrated drummer though, try and get a listen of Brand X, Moroccan roll
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Originally Posted by wayne9t9
I take it we can embed vids now then .........btw saw Lamb lies down tour about `75 I think. Took about 3 days for my mouth to close after all that awe. Seen Genesis about 3 times Gabrieless at Knebworth after that, different sound, enjoyable in a slightly different way. I still think Phils an underrated drummer though, try and get a listen of Brand X, Moroccan roll
I'm not dispuiting he's a good drummer. Just should have left it there reallly
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Can't blame him for carrying on if they are prepared tp pay him for doing it though.

Les
He's one of only 3 people to sell 100m albums as a member of a band and as a solo artist. Not a bad thing to have done.

5t.
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Oooh.......just played 'Mercy Street'. Goosebumps and watery eyes now!
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