Next week - waiting for an 11 plate.

 

I thought OWD was oral with d1ck, like OWO is oral without

Anyway, I've toyed with joining one of these clubs over the years but I have a number of issues/concerns. The biggest being I'd feel gutted every time I had to give back the keys of something like that Ferrari. A taste of something like that would be too dangerous for me.
Also my work is such that I could book a car for a day and then be offered work on that day which meant if I turned the work down the car has effectively cost me more money.

I think Trout's approach has to be the way if one has the money ie buy something that will devalue by less or about the same as one of these clubs cost per year.

As for supercars, the term has changed over the years. My M5 could probably be very loosely termed a supercar but I never thought of it that way. A Scooby imho can never be a supercar, it just doesn't have (and has never had) the desirability factor. You can strap a jet engine to it but that will never make it a supercar, even if it is supercar quick.

Then we have the issue of how we define a 'hypercar'

Anyway, one day, probably after my first heart attack when I truly appreciate how short life is I'm going to wake up and buy one of those red things in the pics above

 

Ah, that was it - I couldn't remember what the learned Dr said.

 

Hypercars are probably very fast and ultra-rare: -

Zonda F
Enzo
F1
Veyron
Konwernnsssiiiggggeesg CCXR
Carrera GT
Lambo Long Player

Supercars are just very fast: -
458
GT2 RS
599 GTO
Gallardo
Merc SLS

 

Ding - are you a locum doctor?

 

Whilst mine was limited to 155 mph anything that wasn't was a supercar

But really it has to obliterate 90-160 mph in the blink of a gear , or two IMHO.

Just because mine might, theoretically reach 200 mph doesn't make it a supercar either.

dunx

 

Mattee, skyline at santa pod in full road trim interior/aircon/tyres etc ran low 11's if i remember rightly and 2 60 in low 3's. Awesome raod going car, and you can live with everyday!! Will never forget the first time i got out of the car after a quick spin, i was bloody shaking from head to toe!! And i suppose thats what its all about the smile on ur face and feeling like a kid at christmas!! No matter what it is or how much it costs!!

 

No not a locum mate, but I am a doctor. If somebody suddenly wants an operation done privately because it fits in with work or cancer is suspected, either I make myself available or the work may go elsewhere.

Another example is that I deal with quite a few football players (though I could care less about the game) and might get a call one evening that they want an op done the next day or another specific day. They expect me to make myself available, turn them down more than a few times and they may well look elsewhere, no different to any other 'business' I suppose.

For the 6 weeks I'm on annual leave a year it's different, I'm not around and that's that. The rest of the time though I've got to be available, not the best lifestyle in the world but it's the nature of the beast

 

Can you have a look at my wrist please(its not from w*nking)i think i've pulled the muscle from the bone of my forearm?????? As we're all friends on here,i hope you'll do it F.O.C. Thanks in advance,,,,,,,PS I'm serious

 

The Veyron is probably the most boring hypercar in existance. I really can't work out the appeal in it, hypercars are generally vulgar but the Veyron isn't even ugly its just drab......plus it looks like an Audi.


Vulgar at its best!

 

I also have zero interest in a Veyron

 

The Veyron is bit of German engineering ***** waving at its best. Whilst its Italian by name, its most certainly German under the skin.

A true Italian hypercar would have much higher focus on style and less focus on real world drivability.

For example, the Bugatti EB110, insane, but a pig to drive by all accounts. The veyron I guess could be driven by a child so long as a brick is put under the accelerator pedal

 

Italian hypercars

Ferrari FXX

Or the truly insane, cannot be actually driven anywhere, Zonda R.

 

The 458 pictured gets about a bit. I saw it in Wakefield a few weeks back!

 

Well,James May throws an MX in as a high performance car saying performance figures meaningless.

Have to agree,my spin in my brothers Porsche Turbo felt very anaethsetised as did my spin round a track in an Aston

Mind you,the spin in his subsequent roofless Maserati(4200 I think) scared the heck out of me!

Must all be down to having no roof

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...e-figures.html

 

To me, supercars and hypercars are inspiration to mere mortals to create or tune something to have similarly fantastic acceleration. Cornering, feel/handling and stopping are not really an issue for some quite cheap cars, especially at road speeds. All the rest about heritage, image, noise, presence, unreliability and almost deliberate impracticality put me off.

So put a "rocket motor" on a Scooby and it would interest me more as it is more relevant to me.

If I decided that the safety of motorcycles was no longer a concern, to a normal working man a proper sports bike costing £ 10k makes most supercars seem silly in terms of acceleration, costs, reliability, fun, if not braking and cornering.

 

I'm sat here pondering where the Honda NSX fits in here.

Having owned one I can say it was an absolute joy. It ran on 95Ron fuel and hum drum 10w-40 semi synth oil, was easy to drive in town (ish - compared to modern cars), costs bugger all to service and was actually quite easy to work on DIY (I did the cambelt and valve clearances myself).

Is it a super car?

If no, then seeing it was aimed at the 911 in its heyday (993/996). That means the 911 should be ruled off the supercar list. Certainly 911s were never so high strung to require a big budget to run. Ok the dealerships charge huge premiums and the engines are not so nice to work on, but other than that its not high tech nor complex or excessively unreliable.

 

I always thought the NSX was targeted at Ferrari.

Which are expensive, unreliable, highly-strung and impractical enough to be regarded as supercars.

In it's day I think the NSX was a supercar.

For me, the only 911 that is really a supercar is the GT2 RS.

If it was only about speed the boulevard cruising 911 Turbo S Cabriolet can do 0-60 in 3.3s - demonically fast, very practical and reliable, but not really a supercar.

 

What stops it being a supercar though? If it was any objective measurement of performance the 911 Turbo S would be near the top, but it seems most definitions of supercar have only a little bit to do with performance, for the 911 to qualify they just have to make it more expensive, less driveable, more highly strung, less reliable, less practical and sound like a Ferrari instead of a washing machine?

If a previous gen 911 GT2 RS is outperformed by a later gen Turbo S, the Turbo S still doesn't become a supercar it seems.

On the other hand, a 911 Turbo S can be called an all weather supercar and no one objects.

 

It is purely subjective of course.

A 993 GT2 or 996 GT3 RS or 997.2 RS or 997 GT RS are probably far more involving cars than the the Turbo or Turbo S, definitely moreso than the Turbo Cab.

And all would be as quick if not quicker around a testing circuit.