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07 February 2011, 05:43 PM
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Gotta love clarkson talking crap. RS500 is 10mph faster than an M5 but fails to mention thats only because the beemer is limited.
Racing against a non production Volvo which would cost £???k and even then was only 1 car length ahead of the CS400 on the drag race.
£50k is GTR money and I know which Id have
Racing against a non production Volvo which would cost £???k and even then was only 1 car length ahead of the CS400 on the drag race.
£50k is GTR money and I know which Id have
07 February 2011, 06:35 PM
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Yup, M5 de-restricted is touted at about 205mph IIRC. What a tool he is ! The Scoob is limited I believe too, but the de-limited Type 25 does about 175, so the Cossie must be similar. Didn't mention that, but then he probably wasn't interested enough to do his research 
He set out not to like the Scooby right from the off, yet it was consistently faster than the Ford in every way. All he seemed to do was come up with excuses as to why the Ford wasn't as good, not how good the Scooby is.
He set out not to like the Scooby right from the off, yet it was consistently faster than the Ford in every way. All he seemed to do was come up with excuses as to why the Ford wasn't as good, not how good the Scooby is.
07 February 2011, 06:48 PM
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07 February 2011, 07:40 PM
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Yup, M5 de-restricted is touted at about 205mph IIRC. What a tool he is ! The Scoob is limited I believe too, but the de-limited Type 25 does about 175, so the Cossie must be similar. Didn't mention that, but then he probably wasn't interested enough to do his research
He set out not to like the Scooby right from the off, yet it was consistently faster than the Ford in every way. All he seemed to do was come up with excuses as to why the Ford wasn't as good, not how good the Scooby is.
He set out not to like the Scooby right from the off, yet it was consistently faster than the Ford in every way. All he seemed to do was come up with excuses as to why the Ford wasn't as good, not how good the Scooby is.
2 people buy a new car. One buys an M5, the other the RS500. The RS500 is faster than 155mph.
07 February 2011, 07:42 PM
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07 February 2011, 10:36 PM
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Gotta love clarkson talking crap. RS500 is 10mph faster than an M5 but fails to mention thats only because the beemer is limited.
Racing against a non production Volvo which would cost £???k and even then was only 1 car length ahead of the CS400 on the drag race.
£50k is GTR money and I know which Id have
Racing against a non production Volvo which would cost £???k and even then was only 1 car length ahead of the CS400 on the drag race.
£50k is GTR money and I know which Id have
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08 February 2011, 01:25 AM
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It's sat under it's cover in my garage as I type, waiting for me to get my finger out and renew it's MOT. As you can imagine I'm in no hurry at the moment, four wheels, a roof, and a heater being far more appealing
To be honest I've not thought about selling it, as I didn't think it was worth anything. I just keep it maintained for the fun of it, and use it to get to work
If you're serious, PM an offer, and I'll consider it
08 February 2011, 07:30 AM
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08 February 2011, 07:35 AM
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Yup, M5 de-restricted is touted at about 205mph IIRC. What a tool he is ! The Scoob is limited I believe too, but the de-limited Type 25 does about 175, so the Cossie must be similar. Didn't mention that, but then he probably wasn't interested enough to do his research
He set out not to like the Scooby right from the off, yet it was consistently faster than the Ford in every way. All he seemed to do was come up with excuses as to why the Ford wasn't as good, not how good the Scooby is.
He set out not to like the Scooby right from the off, yet it was consistently faster than the Ford in every way. All he seemed to do was come up with excuses as to why the Ford wasn't as good, not how good the Scooby is.
Tbf the RS500 is the better car in terms of value for money at £35k vs £50k. If Ford had gone 4WD it would be a beast. Shame about the matt black styling and pimped out rear side windows that make it look like a van. Assume you can only get it in that colour?
08 February 2011, 07:36 AM
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08 February 2011, 09:10 AM
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Also, small point: what he was demonstrating was not turbo lag, but boost threshold: he'd gone up to a high gear out of the rpm range where the turbo was not girding its loins and then had to edge the car back into the powerband, which when you're in 5th at 60 miles per hour with a turbo that doesn't get into its stride until (apparently) about 3.5k is going to take a while!
No question that the scooby showed the ford a clean pair of heels which was seemingly ignored (remember when the hatch also beat the evo around the track too?) But 50k far too much for an Impreza (regardless of what anything thinks about value for money in light of the Cosworth parts). A Ford beater could and should be available at 35k max..... which i what Subaru already offer in the JDM market range!
Also, does anyone else think the Cosworth engine sounds a bit.....well, lazy given the forged internals etc... Should be up in the upper 400s in my opinion.
No question that the scooby showed the ford a clean pair of heels which was seemingly ignored (remember when the hatch also beat the evo around the track too?) But 50k far too much for an Impreza (regardless of what anything thinks about value for money in light of the Cosworth parts). A Ford beater could and should be available at 35k max..... which i what Subaru already offer in the JDM market range!
Also, does anyone else think the Cosworth engine sounds a bit.....well, lazy given the forged internals etc... Should be up in the upper 400s in my opinion.
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08 February 2011, 01:14 PM
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He's never liked the scoob hatches so has already made his mind up before he gets in.
Tbf the RS500 is the better car in terms of value for money at £35k vs £50k. If Ford had gone 4WD it would be a beast. Shame about the matt black styling and pimped out rear side windows that make it look like a van. Assume you can only get it in that colour?
Tbf the RS500 is the better car in terms of value for money at £35k vs £50k. If Ford had gone 4WD it would be a beast. Shame about the matt black styling and pimped out rear side windows that make it look like a van. Assume you can only get it in that colour?
Would love to see the Focus with AWD/4WD, I reckon it would be awesome. But I'm guessing Ford also think that £40k/£50k is too much for a Focus which is what it would be priced at as a guess if it had 4WD and 400BHP.
Yep, the RS500 only comes in Matt Black
I know it's almost fashionable at the moment but personally I would have preferred it in normal gloss black.
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08 February 2011, 03:40 PM
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Gotta love clarkson talking crap. RS500 is 10mph faster than an M5 but fails to mention thats only because the beemer is limited.
Racing against a non production Volvo which would cost £???k and even then was only 1 car length ahead of the CS400 on the drag race.
£50k is GTR money and I know which Id have
Racing against a non production Volvo which would cost £???k and even then was only 1 car length ahead of the CS400 on the drag race.
£50k is GTR money and I know which Id have
The daft thing is most speed limited BMWs actually do 160mph on the clocks even though they are limited 155mph (5mph error I guess)...plenty of youtube vids support this.
Would love to see the Focus with AWD/4WD, I reckon it would be awesome. But I'm guessing Ford also think that £40k/£50k is too much for a Focus which is what it would be priced at as a guess if it had 4WD and 400BHP.
Same engine, same chassis. Just one has a Haldex unit in the back (Focus has room to swing a cat under the rear axle).
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08 February 2011, 04:20 PM
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The daft thing is most speed limited BMWs actually do 160mph on the clocks even though they are limited 155mph (5mph error I guess)...plenty of youtube vids support this.
As for the Polestar. This is what the RS500 SHOULD HAVE been, I've said that before and I'll say it again: https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=11
Same engine, same chassis. Just one has a Haldex unit in the back (Focus has room to swing a cat under the rear axle).
As for the Polestar. This is what the RS500 SHOULD HAVE been, I've said that before and I'll say it again: https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=11
Same engine, same chassis. Just one has a Haldex unit in the back (Focus has room to swing a cat under the rear axle).
08 February 2011, 06:02 PM
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I'd hazard a guess that the decisions were made by accountants, firm in the knowledge that Ford fans would by a 1957 Anglia if they tinted the windows and put an RS badge on it.
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not one of them looked liked they cost what they did though:
35k for a focus with tinted windows.
50K for a scooby............. to joe average in the street, thats all they are.
as for top end speed- and where exactly does anyone every exceed 155 mph ???
50K buys a lot more car with a lot more style than any of that lot.
35k for a focus with tinted windows.
50K for a scooby............. to joe average in the street, thats all they are.
as for top end speed- and where exactly does anyone every exceed 155 mph ???
50K buys a lot more car with a lot more style than any of that lot.
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