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Old 26 October 2010, 01:40 PM
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^^ Good post and wise words ^^

As I have said again and again, in REAL WORLD driving my Civic will equal, or beat, most Impreza's .... it's just how it is.

The Civic does 0-60 in a bit over 8secs ... and a UK Classic Turbo in a bit over 6secs - that's 2 seconds. Now, throw in the variables .. like the fact I can change gear faster than most kiddies, I have ***** of steel so can push the boundaries when the kiddie will poop themselves and back off, my car may well be in better tune, tighter ... most old Scoobies will have lost 50% of their power by now anyway!!

So, in the final analysis .... a Civic diesel can easily keep up with, and in most cases surpass, a lot of Scobbies.


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Originally Posted by pslewis
^^ Good post and wise words ^^

As I have said again and again, in REAL WORLD driving my Civic will equal, or beat, most Impreza's .... it's just how it is.

The Civic does 0-60 in a bit over 8secs ... and a UK Classic Turbo in a bit over 6secs - that's 2 seconds. Now, throw in the variables .. like the fact I can change gear faster than most kiddies, I have ***** of steel so can push the boundaries when the kiddie will poop themselves and back off, my car may well be in better tune, tighter ... most old Scoobies will have lost 50% of their power by now anyway!!

So, in the final analysis .... a Civic diesel can easily keep up with, and in most cases surpass, a lot of Scobbies.

With a recommendation like that is no wonder that Honda stopped making the NSX, I mean why make a supercar when you can get a humble shopping trolley diesel up to the same performance level.

I tell you what Pete bring your car along to the ESC tunnel run (for charity by the way) so that we can all marvel at your car, you can lead the run even as guest of honour and then we can then try and keep up with man and machine in perfect harmony.

Is it true that you are in fact the Stig's great great grandfather?

Old 26 October 2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

So, in the final analysis .... a Civic diesel can easily keep up with, and in most cases surpass, a lot of Scobbies.

That pretty much sums up your whole post.. there...in one word.... wrong!
Old 26 October 2010, 05:05 PM
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I better steer clear of these one-off PSL mobiles.It must be one of a kind as all the 2.2 civic diesels i come across are slow as hell but i guess none of these are driven by Stig Lewis
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I am in no way having a go at Subaru drivers, I would not read this site every day if I did not like Subarus and have one on my shopping list but too many of you are stuck in the rut of thinking about 0 to 60 times and straight line performance. My favourite drives include corners, this means you must get your lines and braking points right and get on the throttle early to make good progress. Why not challenge the Civic to a run on PSL's favourite road not a tunnel.
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Originally Posted by smbitin
I am in no way having a go at Subaru drivers, I would not read this site every day if I did not like Subarus and have one on my shopping list but too many of you are stuck in the rut of thinking about 0 to 60 times and straight line performance. My favourite drives include corners, this means you must get your lines and braking points right and get on the throttle early to make good progress. Why not challenge the Civic to a run on PSL's favourite road not a tunnel.
I'm just not sure my Spec C could keep up I'm happy for Pete to come down to Wales and sample some of the best roads in the UK.

You are right straight line speed is nothing without the ability to smoothly take corners, slow in - fast out, matching gears to conditions and keeping the car balanced.

I'm ready when you are Pete.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
^^ Good post and wise words ^^

As I have said again and again, in REAL WORLD driving my Civic will equal, or beat, most Impreza's .... it's just how it is.

The Civic does 0-60 in a bit over 8secs ... and a UK Classic Turbo in a bit over 6secs - that's 2 seconds. Now, throw in the variables .. like the fact I can change gear faster than most kiddies, I have ***** of steel so can push the boundaries when the kiddie will poop themselves and back off, my car may well be in better tune, tighter ... most old Scoobies will have lost 50% of their power by now anyway!!

So, in the final analysis .... a Civic diesel can easily keep up with, and in most cases surpass, a lot of Scobbies.

Old 26 October 2010, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Oh, dear ... I seemed to have caused a stir ... very unlike me.

All I was really saying is that my Diesel Civic (note Diesel, to the poster who thought I was in a Type R!) ...... with 340nM at my disposal ... and my vast old git experience ... and my ability to drive extremely well below the speed limit ... .

I didn't mean to get anyone chopping on their keyboard ....

Edited for accuracy
Old 26 October 2010, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
340Nm ... speaks volumes ...
True, it's a loud fecking rattle

TX.
Old 26 October 2010, 10:21 PM
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It was Civic driver who didnt give way at a junction and smashed me and my beloved scooby of 4 years off the road. My scooby was written off and nearly two years later I am just about recovered. Not pleasant being hit side on. The only bonus was his Civic was buried so far into my scooby that it was written off too.

I had a bad case of deja vu last week when a Type R driver chose not to stop at a give way when he was turning right and nearly obliterated half a dozen cars, me included, in a 30mph, only to pull up in his driveway just down the road.

Can't tar everyone with the same brush, but I'm not feeling very generous towards Civic drivers so the posts in here dont impress
Old 26 October 2010, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
^^ Good post and wise words ^^

As I have said again and again, in my IMAGINARY TROLL WORLD driving my Civic will equal, or beat, most Kia's.... it's just how it is.

The Civic does 0-60 in a bit over 8secs ... and a Kia Rio in a bit over 16secs - that's 8 seconds. Now, throw in the variables .. like the fact I can change gear faster than most paraplegics, I have ***** for brains so can push the boundaries of fantasy when the Kia driver will be in full control of their faculties and back off, my car may well be in better tune, tighter ... most old Kias will have lost 50% of their power by now anyway!!

So, in the final analysis .... a Civic diesel can easily keep up with, and in most cases surpass, a lot of Kias.

I agree completely
Old 26 October 2010, 11:15 PM
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Sorry but Range Rover drivers need to go up a lot higher on the list.
Old 27 October 2010, 07:44 AM
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real world driving a civic diesel cant do 55mpg !
Real world driving a diesel civic is slower in everyway upto 60mph than a wrx.
Old 27 October 2010, 07:49 AM
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in the real world the only way a diesel civic is better is because its cheaper to run,great if your skint or greedy.
Oh and you will soon be stuck in the snow ! Hahaha
Old 27 October 2010, 09:54 AM
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Won't be stuck in the snow ... it's a front wheel drive. The rear wheel drives get stuck. This is what I mean about kiddies see? Don't know nowt about driving.

Remember, children, I was driving Capri's and Cortina's in ice and snow way back (before most of your parents were alive) ... I have driven pretty much everything one time or another. 0-60 times, BHP, 1/4 mile sprints, these mean nothing when up against an old experienced hand (in whatever he may be driving - and, most certainly, when in a car with more pulling power than most Scoobies). A missed gearchange by a kiddie means that any time advantage is lost.

Anyway, we do seem to have gone off topic somewhat ....... back to the most annoying drivers/cars (you will note that the Civic doesn't appear in the list!).
Old 27 October 2010, 10:13 AM
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hahaha your a joke
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front wheel drives dont get stuck in the snow ! ! Haha of course they do and last year it was mainly old taxi drivers stuck at the bottom of icy hills while i went past them like there was no ice.
But you wont have that problem because your an experianced driver in a car that you claim has a 0-30 time that equalls a mclaren f1 ! You may be an experianced driver but you dont have a clue what your talking about.
Old 27 October 2010, 11:36 AM
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Sounds like PSL has dimensia hes that old.
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Im no youngster, but I would say the majority of Impreza owners aint either. They are 30+ years old, with a bucket of experience, driving dozens of previous cars before owning what they own now (including Civics I might add).

The only thing I do agree with PSL is the ***** of steel bit. I got titanium bo!!ocks so if you fancy a race, anywhere, give me a shout. Born in the valleys of wales with amazing roads and now living in shropshire where I drive from telford to chester, daily through some great winding, sharp 'B roads which is great for putting the ****s up people (example, I kept up with a BMW 525 in a loaned Astra 1.6, only coz the BMW driver didnt want to wreck his motor I might add) me, I didnt care about the Astra hence I was able to keep up.

Yes, you may take a few scoob owners - thats because they dont want to write off their 20k car as opposed to you not caring about writing off your 6k bucket of bolts.

Get in a real car then drive like you dont care about writing it off. You might have some appreciation.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Anyway, we do seem to have gone off topic somewhat ....... back to the most annoying drivers/cars (you will note that the Civic doesn't appear in the list!).
It should do how many times do you pull up behind a Civic being driven 10mph below the posted limit (30 in a 40 FFS) only to find a grey haired lunatic behind the wheel ... get off the public highway FFS

TX.
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haha true
Old 27 October 2010, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlh
Sounds like PSL has dimensia hes that old.
When you get to 72, it's not that old at all .....

You lot cannot drive in the world I do then?

I drive in the real world where the average speed of the traffic is 30 MPH if you're lucky.

Where the maximum ever distance between where you are and where the back of the car in front is is 500 Yards.

Where speed cameras patrol you to stay within sensible limits.

Where you look like a right dork if you drive like you have stolen your car.

Where fuel costs limit spirited driving.

Where steady, cost effective, driving is seen as an assett....... Where the world is real.

The fastest car in the world is as slow as the slowest on a stretch of road ..... it is very difficult, in this day and age, to actually pass a car being driven with gusto - so, what's the point of figures? NONE!

The only figures to matter nowadays are the mpg, torque, road tax and depreciation.

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Old 27 October 2010, 01:20 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYYsv...eature=related

Close, but I think you will see that the Civic flies past first .....
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nope apparently we live in a world where a standard honda civic is now a quicker car than a mclaren f1 to 30mph! Haha.
Old 27 October 2010, 01:34 PM
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the honda is neither standard nor diesel

your point is????
Old 27 October 2010, 01:39 PM
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We could sit here all day posting videos mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuGsQ...eature=related

The point is, unless you are willing to put your money where your mouth is, why bother taking the pi55 at other owners.

I have a lot of respect for you however.

Your age, your experience and that you got guts. It doesnt always come down to age though. In the job Ive been doing for the last 10 years, Ive done over 400,000 miles, thats 40 years worth of driving compared to an "average" driver of 100,000 or so and many drivers on here have done even more than that. That doesnt even count the other 13 years of average driving, so im around the 530,000 miles.

Experience is not always how "old" you are and counts more in how many miles you've done and how many accidents you have accumulated. Ive accumulated 0 (zero) in 23 years. Have managed to get out of a lot of mishaps because of my experience of reading the road, conditions and other vehicles.

As far as the civic vs scoob, as I said before, its because the scoob driver doesnt want to wreck his beloved. The video I linked above says it all.
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We could sit here all day posting videos mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuGsQ...eature=related

The point is, unless you are willing to put your money where your mouth is, why bother taking the pi55 at other owners.

I have a lot of respect for you however.

Your age, your experience and that you got guts. It doesnt always come down to age though. In the job Ive been doing for the last 10 years, Ive done over 400,000 miles, thats 40 years worth of driving compared to an "average" driver of 100,000 or so and many drivers on here have done even more than that. That doesnt even count the other 13 years of average driving, so im around the 530,000 miles.

Experience is not always how "old" you are and counts more in how many miles you've done and how many accidents you have accumulated. Ive accumulated 0 (zero) in 23 years. Have managed to get out of a lot of mishaps because of my experience of reading the road, conditions and other vehicles.

As far as the civic vs scoob, as I said before, its because the scoob driver doesnt want to wreck his beloved. The video I linked above says it all.
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My point being that in the real world they are very much the same ..... but one costs 1/5 to run of the other
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that is not the world, that is towns and cities, get out more.
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Oh well, thats settled it then PSL.

Im selling my scoob and buying a VW Polo, coz that'll cost a 1/5 to run as a Civic and its all the same...

The whole point of getting a scoob is because the previous cars we've owned are not powerful enough, does not handle as safe as a scoob and isnt as FUN as a scoob.

Who gives a toss about cost, im not worrying about the funds digging into my pension.
Nuff said.


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