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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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I bet everything I possess, plus the life of my first born son, that the non-existent ****** wouldn't even answer.
Lol! Have you read The Grand Design yet? I finished it this morning on the red-eye from JFK; it was fairly trippy getting my head round the Strong Anthropic Principle, M-Theory and spontaneous creation whilst the missus snored and the kid behind whooped at The A-Team. Would be interested in your thoughts.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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No, I haven't read it - I don't even know who it's by. I've heard of those ideas, though.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Has anyone read the subject matter?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Haven't read the other 781 posts but just wonder...how many people try very hard to disprove God because of a rotton event in their life..loss of a loved one etc.Like to know why Dawkins is so keen to disprove!

My view is simply we just don't understand ,nor can we really explain so many things.Nothingness to galaxies appearing,the beginning of time,the extent of space.

No one has a clue,just pretend they do based on what a few blokes in white coats wrote in books.It's these theories that are as much up to knocking down as the bible.

Accept it...we can't prove or disprove anything...just live with it! (I believe in God btw)
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Oh my God!!! This has gone to 27 pages!

Must be a divine force driving this!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Oh my God!!! This has gone to 27 pages!

Must be a divine force driving this!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Bit of passion on both sides
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Oh my God!!! This has gone to 27 pages!

Must be a divine force driving this!
If it wasn't for all the double posts it would only be on page 13....

Even 'God' can't sort that out.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1

My view is simply we just don't understand ,nor can we really explain so many things.Nothingness to galaxies appearing,the beginning of time,the extent of space.

No one has a clue,just pretend they do based on what a few blokes in white coats wrote in books.It's these theories that are as much up to knocking down as the bible.

Accept it...we can't prove or disprove anything...just live with it! (I believe in God btw)
You're completely wrong on almost every point, there. But I don't think you care, nor will me pointing out every detail of how and why you're wrong make any difference. How can you be so dismissive about the life's work of so many dedicated, brilliant people? You sound so ignorant you make me want to despair.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
Haven't read the other 781 posts but just wonder...how many people try very hard to disprove God because of a rotton event in their life..loss of a loved one etc.Like to know why Dawkins is so keen to disprove!

My view is simply we just don't understand ,nor can we really explain so many things.Nothingness to galaxies appearing,the beginning of time,the extent of space.

No one has a clue,just pretend they do based on what a few blokes in white coats wrote in books.It's these theories that are as much up to knocking down as the bible.

Accept it...we can't prove or disprove anything...just live with it! (I believe in God btw)
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
If it wasn't for all the double posts it would only be on page 13....
True

Cant believe this is still going, think I stopped at around post 7.

Even 'God' can't sort that out.
Oh yes he could...but would we realise it
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
You're completely wrong on almost every point, there.
Not really.

You sound so ignorant you make me want to despair.
Oh you poor man, what must it be like surrounded by such mere mortals when you just know it all.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Brains evolve. It's quite possible for two humans to occupy the same point in time and space but also have significant variance in their cognitive abilities. Some minds are suited to understanding the big questions via reason and exploration whilst others react well to simple stories. Do not feel downhearted if you fall in to the latter catagory, it isn't your fault, it's God's.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Oh my God!!! This has gone to 27 pages!

Must be a divine force driving this!
We've got some way to go before it'll match the number of pages in the bible.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 07:32 AM
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Brains evolve. It's quite possible for two humans to occupy the same point in time and space but also have significant variance in their cognitive abilities. Some minds are suited to understanding the big questions via reason and exploration whilst others react well to simple stories. Do not feel downhearted if you fall in to the latter catagory, it isn't your fault, it's God's.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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I wonder if Pete Lewis is watching this thread and getting irritated at its length!

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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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+JTaylor,

This thread is riddled with silly belittling comments to try and prove points often accompanied with unnecessarily long words where people obviously think they make themselves sound clever and therefore there point is more valid.

A desperate attempt to cover up the fact that a lot of content is so weak?

I stopped posting long ago because very few of my posts got answered with any intelligence and where that obviously frustrated people I got rude insults.

Sorry if that hasnt been the case for the last 20 pages (as I havent been following it all) but it doesnt look like much has changed.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
But I don't think you care


These threads will vary hugely depending on which car site you are on.

Reckon Toyota Prius.Fish sticker on boot.net will be leaning a certain way.

Still,I love the intensity and the huge number of subaru driving professors
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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+the huge number of thesaurus, dictionary and google quick search reading subaru drivers.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
+the huge number of thesaurus, dictionary and google quick search reading subaru drivers.
Is comprehensive, appropriate and extensive use of the wonderous breadth of the English language something to be ashamed of, or merely explaining oneself with eloquence?
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Is comprehensive, appropriate and extensive use of the wonderous breadth of the English language something to be ashamed of, or merely explaining oneself with eloquence?
Its seen straight through thats what it is. If this was the case there would be "eloquent" language used in all posts and day to day conversations...and nice use of a smily there, well done.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
+the huge number of thesaurus, dictionary and google quick search reading subaru drivers.
You find that the easiest way to do it then?

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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Nope, not me, I couldnt be bothered and therefore not one of the huge number, but havent been part of the huge number in most things discussed in this thread to be fair.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Is comprehensive, appropriate and extensive use of the wonderous breadth of the English language something to be ashamed of, or merely explaining oneself with eloquence?
They just don't like reaching for the dictionary.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
They just don't like reaching for the dictionary.
Actually I would say they dont like having to think.....
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
+JTaylor,

This thread is riddled with silly belittling comments to try and prove points often accompanied with unnecessarily long words where people obviously think they make themselves sound clever and therefore there point is more valid.

A desperate attempt to cover up the fact that a lot of content is so weak?

I stopped posting long ago because very few of my posts got answered with any intelligence and where that obviously frustrated people I got rude insults.

Sorry if that hasnt been the case for the last 20 pages (as I havent been following it all) but it doesnt look like much has changed.
To be fair, SRSport, you demonstrated that you where ignorant of the Abrahamic tradition, which, given that we're discussing monotheism, disqualifies your opinion. It comes as no surprise to me that someone who believed God and Allah to be seperate deitys becomes defensive when confronted with 'big words'. Did you feel a little ashamed as you googled the word 'cognitive'? Go and do some reading and pop back in a few years. Peon.
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To be fair, JTaylor, you're very free with your assumption on me, with which you are wrong. Does this disqualify your opinion? I have no problem understanding the 'big words', which qualifies me to comment on them as I can see how totally over used they are when trying to prove points. If people are so secure and sure of their points surely they would want to keep their wording as simple as possible to ensure there was no misunderstanding. Again it is seen straight through.

You appear to enjoy jumping to which ever conclusions suit you best, right or wrong, whether you can back it up or not.

Anyway, by saying they were the same God I still maintain is not correct as Allah referring to the Muslim God as we understand it, God the Christian God as 'God' has lead the faiths down very different paths and therefore not the same God. This was to what I was referring. I assume other people were referring to the literal translation of God, either way its interesting how over something so irrelevant people feel they are 1up while conveniently sidestepping finer points made.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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May I ask why you are still posting on this thread? I dont get how it can still be going. What is it about people who believe in God that gets up your nose so much. I havent been posting much this time around and thats me who has a cause. I dont really understand what yours is. Im not trying to get at you I am just genuinely interested.
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Originally Posted by SRSport
To be fair, JTaylor, you're very free with your assumption on me, with which you are wrong. Does this disqualify your opinion? I have no problem understanding the 'big words', which qualifies me to comment on them as I can see how totally over used they are when trying to prove points. If people are so secure and sure of their points surely they would want to keep their wording as simple as possible to ensure there was no misunderstanding. Again it is seen straight through.

You appear to enjoy jumping to which ever conclusions suit you best, right or wrong, whether you can back it up or not.

Anyway, by saying they were the same God I still maintain is not correct as Allah referring to the Muslim God as we understand it, God the Christian God as 'God' has lead the faiths down very different paths and therefore not the same God. This was to what I was referring. I assume other people were referring to the literal translation of God, either way its interesting how over something so irrelevant people feel they are 1up while conveniently sidestepping finer points made.
That is hilarious. You can only be judged by what you write here so of course conclusions will be made based on that. I can't see any sidestepping from the side which is using logic. I love these threads
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