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Old 26 August 2010, 02:06 PM
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Maybe joe public are getting sick of the british legal system and their soft approach on criminals. If the cps can't do the job then some body else will. Not saying this is right but in the long run if he was a paedo good riddance
Old 26 August 2010, 02:13 PM
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FWIW, this situation would be wholly different if the boy was unarmed but had ran through to the kitchen and picked up a knife. However, by arming himself he demonstrated a degree of intent and complete contempt for the laws against knife crime.
Old 26 August 2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
I really cannot see how anyone can defend this guy. The fact that the deceased was a suspected paedo (who we all love to hate) is an irrelevant factor.
It was irrelevant right up to the point he tried to rape a knife wielding moron
Old 26 August 2010, 05:08 PM
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The boy went to the property knowing what to expect of the likely outcome, he went with a knife. If he did not like the sound of the 'offer' from the peado then he should not have gone and informed the Police.

Two wrongs do not make a right, am i sad the paedo is dead no not really, good riddance.

The boy deserves a manslaughter charge, he allowed himself to be put in that position and went equipped to kill.
Old 26 August 2010, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
The boy went to the property knowing what to expect of the likely outcome, he went with a knife. If he did not like the sound of the 'offer' from the peado then he should not have gone and informed the Police.

Two wrongs do not make a right, am i sad the paedo is dead no not really, good riddance.

The boy deserves a manslaughter charge, he allowed himself to be put in that position and went equipped to kill.
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That doesn't quite fit in with your signature Paul .
Old 27 August 2010, 02:15 AM
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Defence QC Brian O'Neill said: "The truth was that Amir was a predatory paedophile who preyed on young boys in his own community and groomed them in order that he might sexually assault and rape them."

The paedo allegation is made by the defence.
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Tower Hamlets council said: "Prior to this court case, neither the council or the school had received any allegations of improper conduct.
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Do we even know if he was a paedo? If he was then no harm done, saved the country a wedge of cash.

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Old 27 August 2010, 03:07 PM
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Maybe the fact that there were two of them at his house made them feel safer and also to think that he waould not try it on.

When I was in my teens I once had an approach made to me by a paedophile. Although I had not suspected the man to be like that, believe me when an approach like that is made to you, there is no mistake what the man is after. It was a frightening experience and I had to kick up a hell of a fuss and take off fast to get away from him! I can therefore very easily put myself in that lad's place.

Of course it was wrong to carry a knife and to kill the paedo with it, but there were extenuating circumstances believe me! How would you feel about it if the paedo had overcome the lad and had his way followed by snuffing him out?

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Old 27 August 2010, 05:10 PM
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I feel like we're going round in circles now.
Old 27 August 2010, 06:31 PM
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Everyone seems keen to call the dead bloke a paedo but there is no proof. Only the word of a knife carrying teenager who happened to stab and kill him. I can't see why he'd want to cover his **** (lol) by making something like that up!
The lad was 17 so does a 27 year old wanting to **** a 17 year old make him a paedo in the eyes of the law? Is the male-male bum fun consent age lower than 16, and you can't tell me that a 17 year old knife carrying teenager isn't streetwise enough to recognise when some bloke wants to give him one.
Also a shisha pipe doesn't necessarily always contain illegal drugs, just flavoured tobacco.
Old 27 August 2010, 06:40 PM
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Would it not be safe to assume that he was a paedo, the courts would have had to have had evidence of that otherwise there really would be no reason why they would have got off scot free.

If not then there is clearly more to it than we have been told and it would be futile to discuss it further.
Old 27 August 2010, 09:44 PM
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I have a problem with this in so much as I believe that only God has the right to give life and to take it away.
Mock my belief as you will.
Old 27 August 2010, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
I have a problem with this in so much as I believe that only God has the right to give life and to take it away.
Mock my belief as you will.
I'll mock it,,,,,,,,,,God doesn't exist
Old 27 August 2010, 10:00 PM
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Wouldnt knock at all, I know some may and believe me Ive been there and done that on here.

The Dogs etc...Yorkshire must be great then, or does that not exist

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Originally Posted by SRSport
Wouldnt knock at all, I know some may and believe me Ive been there and done that on here.

The Dogs etc...Yorkshire must be great then, or does that not exist
Yorkshire does exist,which i can prove,,,,,,,,,,,,,your turn
Old 27 August 2010, 10:12 PM
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Yawn yawn. Read through my posts for some interesting reading on this. I really am not wasting more time on it.
Old 27 August 2010, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Yawn yawn. Read through my posts for some interesting reading on this. I really am not wasting more time on it.
I wasn't having a pop at you.
Old 27 August 2010, 10:19 PM
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Ok, sorry. Ive just been in some in some heated discussions on here before that go on a long time and get nowhere.
Old 27 August 2010, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Ok, sorry. Ive just been in some in some heated discussions on here before that go on a long time and get nowhere.
Old 27 August 2010, 10:25 PM
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By the way Yorkshire is a beautiful place, I live there myself now and prefer living here than in Ibiza
Old 28 August 2010, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
I have a problem with this in so much as I believe that only God has the right to give life and to take it away.
Mock my belief as you will.
In general you are right, but you are entitled to defend yourself from an attack even if that includes killing the attacker.

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Old 29 August 2010, 10:39 PM
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Did you see/hear the Delta Lady today at Dunsfold?
I got wood on the fast bank to climb at throttle.

I also heard that the current donated total to the fund from the public was up to £8m!
Old 30 August 2010, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
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That doesn't quite fit in with your signature Paul .
It does, if we all take the law into our own hands then it is anarchy, The kid went to the property armed and knowing what was going to happen, or with a good idea anyway. He should have kep't away, he should have told his parents and they should have contacted the police, I hate paedo's with a passion but this seems wrong to me. I am not sad he is dead just with the way it was done, the kid will also have to live with killing someone for the rest of his life which seems a shame.

Maybe i am warped
Old 30 August 2010, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Xx-IAN-xX
Maybe joe public are getting sick of the british legal system and their soft approach on criminals. If the cps can't do the job then some body else will. Not saying this is right but in the long run if he was a paedo good riddance
so retarded on so many levels.

"maybe?", that sort of element of doubt, no matter how small is possibly the reason why the CPS couldn't prosecute. Beyond reasonable doubt is the basis for our legal system.

"If the CPS cant do the job then someone else will", who? the general public? then you are no better than the person who you are "offing" and will more than likely give the CPS enough evidence to prosecute.

"if he was a paedo good riddance?", more doubt, you are happy he is dead on a balance of probability?
To quote Charlie Brown, "Good Grief!"
Old 30 August 2010, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Alg
Everyone seems keen to call the dead bloke a paedo but there is no proof. Only the word of a knife carrying teenager who happened to stab and kill him. I can't see why he'd want to cover his **** (lol) by making something like that up!
The lad was 17 so does a 27 year old wanting to **** a 17 year old make him a paedo in the eyes of the law? Is the male-male bum fun consent age lower than 16, and you can't tell me that a 17 year old knife carrying teenager isn't streetwise enough to recognise when some bloke wants to give him one.
Also a shisha pipe doesn't necessarily always contain illegal drugs, just flavoured tobacco.
Read the link to start with.

If you can't see that trying to enforce a homosexual act on an unwilling person does not constitute rape of the worst kind, then I have to say that your attitude is rather strange.

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