Nissan GTR- test drive
29 August 2010, 05:10 PM
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Myself/wife test drove the 535d (Automatic as thats all they do it in) older car 3 years ago before we bought an STI Forrester. It was terribly slow and unsporty
Is that a picture of the new M5 then - I'm about 20 years too young for that car - sad old gits company exec car ;-)
Is that a picture of the new M5 then - I'm about 20 years too young for that car - sad old gits company exec car ;-)
29 August 2010, 05:20 PM
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If you think a 535d is slow then you are not driving it right!!!
It may not be a GTR but in real world driving it makes a fabulous GT car!
But there again I am older and balder than you
It may not be a GTR but in real world driving it makes a fabulous GT car!
But there again I am older and balder than you
29 August 2010, 05:22 PM
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I very much prefer the GTR. Its so funny at the Silverstone Track day there was a Lambo Superleggera and a new Porsche GT3RS - no-one seemed to care about these, everyone wanted to ask lots of questions about the GTR. (to me it means nothing - its a cheapish car at £62k and maybe I'll get around to washing it after the trackday now if I can be bothered). it has a lot of street cred - people wave, offer comments of awe in Petrol stations, you get given right of way all the time - people seem to love the thing in this country.
It is more important being a car tart than to have the quickest car on the track
29 August 2010, 05:31 PM
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Thats being said, I love Evo's, not particuarly the X, but Id take a GTR over an Evo anyday, pity about the crazy costs to run one though, especially the pedestrian safety feature, some bloke on the GTR forum hit the bumper and scuffed it, the safety mechanism kicked in, popped the bonnet (wtf) and the ECU, bonnet, bumper needed replacing to the tune of 11k or some 5hite.....and im not sure if it can be disabled, it was literally something you and I would just take the bumper off and have a respray, the damamge was that light.
29 August 2010, 05:42 PM
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The question has already been answered afaik, which is two adults and two toddlers DO NOT FIT. You will accept that your wife is very petite? Did you and your brother actually drive the car with your seating arrangement or just sit in? Two very different things.
Also counter intuitively it maybe that a small adult fits better in the back than a small child due to the bulk of a child seat needed for the latter.
Anyway there is no question in my mind, it does not work for 2 adults and two toddlers even for short journeys.
Btw the rrp of the GTR is £60k, so which £240k factory supercars are you talking about?
Also counter intuitively it maybe that a small adult fits better in the back than a small child due to the bulk of a child seat needed for the latter.
Anyway there is no question in my mind, it does not work for 2 adults and two toddlers even for short journeys.
Btw the rrp of the GTR is £60k, so which £240k factory supercars are you talking about?
I think you might be better of getting a 4 door sports car if your going to be using it for kids from school & toddler seats/buggys etc.. its its going to be a bit of problem?.
ps. do you have a limit to spend? if so would you even consider a used car? as the R34 was perfect for me with adults or kids in the back & the boot was big enough for any baby buggy on the market & they can be modified v easy to have big figures on the rollers too!
29 August 2010, 05:44 PM
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Just out of interest I have seen a GT3RS with 10 miles on it for sale at list. There are some chancers trying a heavy premium but most ultra low mileage cars seem to be selling at list plus options, if that.
29 August 2010, 06:02 PM
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Strange one this as no disrespect to the GTR which is an awesome car, but a few have turned up at the MLR sprints and left with their expensive cars firmly between their legs.
Thats being said, I love Evo's, not particuarly the X, but Id take a GTR over an Evo anyday, pity about the crazy costs to run one though, especially the pedestrian safety feature, some bloke on the GTR forum hit the bumper and scuffed it, the safety mechanism kicked in, popped the bonnet (wtf) and the ECU, bonnet, bumper needed replacing to the tune of 11k or some 5hite.....and im not sure if it can be disabled, it was literally something you and I would just take the bumper off and have a respray, the damamge was that light.
Thats being said, I love Evo's, not particuarly the X, but Id take a GTR over an Evo anyday, pity about the crazy costs to run one though, especially the pedestrian safety feature, some bloke on the GTR forum hit the bumper and scuffed it, the safety mechanism kicked in, popped the bonnet (wtf) and the ECU, bonnet, bumper needed replacing to the tune of 11k or some 5hite.....and im not sure if it can be disabled, it was literally something you and I would just take the bumper off and have a respray, the damamge was that light.
I was at a dry Snetterton last year, and the GTR's were flying.... although no quicker than Blow Dog in his GT3.
At a wet Brands Hatch it was a different case, the GTR's really seemed to struggle.
29 August 2010, 06:08 PM
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One other thing to consider with the GTR is depreciation.
I've recently insured two early examples, and they have just been bought for under £40k.
Once the warranty has expired it'll be interesting to see what the prices do.
I've recently insured two early examples, and they have just been bought for under £40k.
Once the warranty has expired it'll be interesting to see what the prices do.
29 August 2010, 06:22 PM
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JDM models? If so could be a year older, no warranty either, under 40 seems reasonable. Early pre ordered uk cars were only 12 more new.
Don't think dep is too bad really.
Don't think dep is too bad really.
29 August 2010, 07:32 PM
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Myself/wife test drove the 535d (Automatic as thats all they do it in) older car 3 years ago before we bought an STI Forrester. It was terribly slow and unsporty
Is that a picture of the new M5 then - I'm about 20 years too young for that car - sad old gits company exec car ;-)
Is that a picture of the new M5 then - I'm about 20 years too young for that car - sad old gits company exec car ;-)
As to you being 20 years too young for a 5 series, don't kid yourself dude, you ain't no spring chicken
29 August 2010, 07:35 PM
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We didn't test drive the car with me in the back but i am sure it would make that much difference to me - main thing was i was sitting in the back & my bro 5'11 was in the front. Something truly amazing for me as its an amazing sports car that does 0-60 in 3.3secs factory & have 4 seats (something many cars in its league only have 2) with a fair price tag of 60k comparing many other cars with similar stats ...it wins hands down. Also something else which is bloody amazing that its blitzed many super cars around the nurburg ring (Veyron is one of them!) & finished in a v respectable level on the Top gear score board/time track
I think you might be better of getting a 4 door sports car if your going to be using it for kids from school & toddler seats/buggys etc.. its its going to be a bit of problem?.
ps. do you have a limit to spend? if so would you even consider a used car? as the R34 was perfect for me with adults or kids in the back & the boot was big enough for any baby buggy on the market & they can be modified v easy to have big figures on the rollers too!
I think you might be better of getting a 4 door sports car if your going to be using it for kids from school & toddler seats/buggys etc.. its its going to be a bit of problem?.
ps. do you have a limit to spend? if so would you even consider a used car? as the R34 was perfect for me with adults or kids in the back & the boot was big enough for any baby buggy on the market & they can be modified v easy to have big figures on the rollers too!
ps I just noticed that I've made '911' number of posts, maybe it's an omen
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29 August 2010, 07:49 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoJdQXmwu8 (GTR 0-60 3.3's)
& personally i luved the seats in the GTR, like i hate seats in any sports Merc or the dash of any BMW. Everyone has personal tastes in cars.. & i do have a soft sport for the GTR's & Scoobys
29 August 2010, 08:02 PM
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mate, i pretty sure your wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoJdQXmwu8 (GTR 0-60 3.3's)
& personally i luved the seats in the GTR, like i hate seats in any sports Merc or the dash of any BMW. Everyone has personal tastes in cars.. & i do have a soft sport for the GTR's & Scoobys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoJdQXmwu8 (GTR 0-60 3.3's)
& personally i luved the seats in the GTR, like i hate seats in any sports Merc or the dash of any BMW. Everyone has personal tastes in cars.. & i do have a soft sport for the GTR's & Scoobys
As for the seats, it's not a matter of taste whether you can fit people in a car or not, its a matter of fact. I don't have any issue with the aesthetics of the GTR's seats, I'm just saying that it is not a comfortable four seater, which is what you were implying in your post.
And not to be funny, but you hate the dashes and seats of all Mercs and BMWs but like those of Scoobs?? ie cheap flimsy plastic
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29 August 2010, 09:09 PM
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29 August 2010, 09:15 PM
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Launch on the uk gtrs has never invalidated warranty. To get a very low 3 sec quarter from a stock uk gtr is possible but needs a little trick which only a few know about. Then you can get up to a 5000 rpm launch without turning vdc off, but I have never used it on mine as there is simply no need.
29 August 2010, 10:51 PM
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Dave
Nah - not a car tart.. but amazed at the interest
GT3RS - yes have seen the prices - way overpriced second hand examples that will come down soon I'm sure but at least its a good sign - I simply couldnt get one and as I recall in 2010 only 26 came in - maybe I was wrong as I've seen one on the road and one at the track
Dingdongler
I cant remember - it would have been the fastest one they did in a 535D - lacks real load capacity due to being rear wheel drive... and quite boring. The wife said it was too slow for her - for me it wasnt about the performance but it was a more economical car being a Diesel
I quite like the look of the M3's but thats about it from BMW - they need a facelift now
Nah - not a car tart.. but amazed at the interest
GT3RS - yes have seen the prices - way overpriced second hand examples that will come down soon I'm sure but at least its a good sign - I simply couldnt get one and as I recall in 2010 only 26 came in - maybe I was wrong as I've seen one on the road and one at the track
Dingdongler
I cant remember - it would have been the fastest one they did in a 535D - lacks real load capacity due to being rear wheel drive... and quite boring. The wife said it was too slow for her - for me it wasnt about the performance but it was a more economical car being a Diesel
I quite like the look of the M3's but thats about it from BMW - they need a facelift now
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29 August 2010, 11:24 PM
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Someone said that if you have a good relationship with the stealer there may be new allocation slots opening up for GT3 and RS.
I have been thinking about it. It is very tempting - but would I really get another £70k value - as that would be the cost to swap. For that I could have the GT3 AND a GT-R!!!!
I have been thinking about it. It is very tempting - but would I really get another £70k value - as that would be the cost to swap. For that I could have the GT3 AND a GT-R!!!!
30 August 2010, 11:40 AM
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Someone said that if you have a good relationship with the stealer there may be new allocation slots opening up for GT3 and RS.
I have been thinking about it. It is very tempting - but would I really get another £70k value - as that would be the cost to swap. For that I could have the GT3 AND a GT-R!!!!
I have been thinking about it. It is very tempting - but would I really get another £70k value - as that would be the cost to swap. For that I could have the GT3 AND a GT-R!!!!
30 August 2010, 11:49 AM
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Launch on the uk gtrs has never invalidated warranty. To get a very low 3 sec quarter from a stock uk gtr is possible but needs a little trick which only a few know about. Then you can get up to a 5000 rpm launch without turning vdc off, but I have never used it on mine as there is simply no need.
30 August 2010, 04:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure (but happy to be corrected) that the 3.3sec time is with launch control, the use of which in pre 2010 cars will invalidate your warranty because the transmission gets fried.
As for the seats, it's not a matter of taste whether you can fit people in a car or not, its a matter of fact. I don't have any issue with the aesthetics of the GTR's seats, I'm just saying that it is not a comfortable four seater, which is what you were implying in your post.
And not to be funny, but you hate the dashes and seats of all Mercs and BMWs but like those of Scoobs?? ie cheap flimsy plastic
As for the seats, it's not a matter of taste whether you can fit people in a car or not, its a matter of fact. I don't have any issue with the aesthetics of the GTR's seats, I'm just saying that it is not a comfortable four seater, which is what you were implying in your post.
And not to be funny, but you hate the dashes and seats of all Mercs and BMWs but like those of Scoobs?? ie cheap flimsy plastic
I don't hate all dashes of Mercs i hate them in the BMW's as they all virtually look the same style - from old models to new models. The Merc seats don't grip me like the bucket seats i am used to in loads of JP sports cars i have owned in my life time.. & they some how feel bit bouncy. Ok, the plastical feel you as you say in Scoobys are there but you do have to look at the price tag of a Scooby & a BMW or Merc & then consider the saying "you pay for what you get" Perosnally my Scooby has the added additional clocks & carbon fibre after market parts so i don't get that plastic feel
30 August 2010, 05:35 PM
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I do not think that it is worth the trade from my 996 GT3. It is a slightly more focused car but the main difference in lap times is that the RS came with Cups as standard and the GT3 only had Pilot Sports.
If I was to change it would be to a more recent GT3 or RS. A new RS is very tempting if VERY expensive for us mere mortals that aren't Steve
If I was to change it would be to a more recent GT3 or RS. A new RS is very tempting if VERY expensive for us mere mortals that aren't Steve
30 August 2010, 06:43 PM
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Ahhhh I should start playing the violin...
For you mere mortals you can sell some of your organs ;-)
Given the performance and handling upgrades I think the only one to go for is the latest but agree that at the current price its not worth it, especially when 2nd hand is more than the new price - this wont last long, though the 997 Variant seems to be holding value reasonably well
I already have 3 cars so another one would be just plain greedy..... :-)
For you mere mortals you can sell some of your organs ;-)
Given the performance and handling upgrades I think the only one to go for is the latest but agree that at the current price its not worth it, especially when 2nd hand is more than the new price - this wont last long, though the 997 Variant seems to be holding value reasonably well
I already have 3 cars so another one would be just plain greedy..... :-)
30 August 2010, 10:20 PM
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