Are they for real
My missus is a teacher and even she was a bit shocked that he escaped jail.
She is not a violent type of person, preferring to break down and cry instead of hitting things, where as i would have elbow dropped the little ****bag and would probably now be out of a job
She is not a violent type of person, preferring to break down and cry instead of hitting things, where as i would have elbow dropped the little ****bag and would probably now be out of a job
I'm pretty sure if he had just punched him it would of blown over but this is a vicious assault and can't just be added to the "we get abused off the pupils " brigade. If the UK allowed guns would he be gunning down the whole school?? Tell me why I don't like mondays
As has already been pointed out, he didn't escape jail, he has already served eight months.
As usual, the Daily mash sums it up best...
M
Some of the crap my mum had served up by pupils over 30 years was amazing, and shocking at the same time.
Even in her last 10 years teaching nursery age if she so much as mentioned a problem or asked a parent about any issues with little johnnys speech she would get a mouthful and a load of abuse of the parents. Given that she worked at one of the roughest schools in wales, things are pretty much the same everywhere.
My mum adapted her attitude, and it took a while for the parents to understand she was a person, a mother of four AND a teacher. They soon trusted her and there was respect all round.
The problem in most situations is that government, the biggest issue being that 15/16 year olds feel that there is crap all for them to do when they finish their education, a lack of jobs and a lack of enthusiasm to learn anything.
It all makes for a very problematic situation in the classroom, teachers giving up trying to teach pupils who don't want to learn. In turn the pupils have no respect for the teacher because he/she seems week, lacking in knowledge
and enthusiasm.
Did the teacher get off lightly? Yes, and so did the pupil. I went to school with some right crapbags, and a good throttling might have helped them to learn a lesson.
Even in her last 10 years teaching nursery age if she so much as mentioned a problem or asked a parent about any issues with little johnnys speech she would get a mouthful and a load of abuse of the parents. Given that she worked at one of the roughest schools in wales, things are pretty much the same everywhere.
My mum adapted her attitude, and it took a while for the parents to understand she was a person, a mother of four AND a teacher. They soon trusted her and there was respect all round.
The problem in most situations is that government, the biggest issue being that 15/16 year olds feel that there is crap all for them to do when they finish their education, a lack of jobs and a lack of enthusiasm to learn anything.
It all makes for a very problematic situation in the classroom, teachers giving up trying to teach pupils who don't want to learn. In turn the pupils have no respect for the teacher because he/she seems week, lacking in knowledge
and enthusiasm.
Did the teacher get off lightly? Yes, and so did the pupil. I went to school with some right crapbags, and a good throttling might have helped them to learn a lesson.
Last edited by Hysteria1983; May 1, 2010 at 09:58 AM.
But both my kids went to a state comprehensive style school, with 6th form college, and it was a terrific place. They kept a lid on any drug stuff and there were no classroom antics as in this case. A lot was because of a superb head master who worked extremely hard as did his top team. He earned the respect of teachers, kids and parents but was still approachable. I think we and the kids were lucky. But school wasn't in a deprived area so perhaps kids had a better start in life? dl
But both my kids went to a state comprehensive style school, with 6th form college, and it was a terrific place. They kept a lid on any drug stuff and there were no classroom antics as in this case. A lot was because of a superb head master who worked extremely hard as did his top team. He earned the respect of teachers, kids and parents but was still approachable. I think we and the kids were lucky. But school wasn't in a deprived area so perhaps kids had a better start in life? dl
Staying in topic though, this is a perfect case where tge education system is failing. This type of behaviour is becoming more 'normal' in most schools, it's a sign of our times.
He had been heavily abused by those badly behaved children before and had suffered a nervous breakdown. Those children give the impression of having had no kind of a proper upbringing and were deliberately causing mayhem in the classroom. Bear in mind that a teacher is not allowed to use any kind of positive action to discipline a pupil. These days the children can do what they want, be as abusive as they like, and totally disrupt a class. All a teacher can do is to tell them to stop and with their mentality they won't stop but will make matters even worse.
What would you do in such a position, You seem to put yourself forward as an expert!
When he came back from his illness the nasty little creeps took advantage of the situation and drove him to the action he took. The poor bloke lost his reason and it is hardly surprising since he was deliberately provoked.
In company with the jury I don't consider the blame is all on his side and you seem to have conveniently forgotten that he has spent 8 months in prison anyway.
Of course it was wrong to do what he did but a person can only stand so much deliberate provocation.
Try imagining yourself in his situation before being so quick to condemn him
Les
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