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It all kicks off proper tomorrow. I've been waiting for parts for gearbox fitment. These have now arrived so I can get the box on and a dummy engine in situ to start positioning everything.
It needs the dummy build and a complete strip done for the 1st Sept when its scheduled to go for paint.
It needs the dummy build and a complete strip done for the 1st Sept when its scheduled to go for paint.
Okay,,,, we've had a small delay partly due to Daz completing his beast (well done Mr Davies for pulling a 10.9 @ 135mph 1st time on strip).
The other reason for the delay is that I stopped all activities for a while as the work situation has been dismal to say the least, so I had to get in sensible mode to preserve funds to run the business, however work is flowing again and so is P2.
Body work now in final stages of striping ready for paint in a few weeks time.
Pics will be following shortly
The other reason for the delay is that I stopped all activities for a while as the work situation has been dismal to say the least, so I had to get in sensible mode to preserve funds to run the business, however work is flowing again and so is P2.
Body work now in final stages of striping ready for paint in a few weeks time.
Pics will be following shortly
Last edited by SkullFudge; Nov 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM.
It’s a while since we have posted on the P2 Thread and several months have passed. We have been updating the thread in my local club and I have now decided to update this ScoobyNet P2 thread.
This thread has basically laid idle since November 2010 regarding P2 development.
The engine has been built for a while and P2 needed to be relocated for security reasons as the trailer theft proved it was too risky to remain in the same area.
The project has relocated to Rockingham Speedway where a good friend of mine from the P1Owners club part owns a workshop. Here is when it becomes confusing as his name is also Daz.
Daz Davis and I are still in contact however the distance between Daz and the relocated P2 is many miles and would prove impossible to travel.
With the engine built DazP1 has been spending his spare time on the shell as it needed much work. I spend free weekends travelling up to the workshop to help Daz with the preparation of the shell and it’s from that point this thread is now continuing from.
There are a couple of important issues that need to be known to save this thread becoming confusing.
P2 was all about trying to build a race car on a budget of 25K. That went out the window a long time ago as we decided to make the engine stronger to cope with more power later on. Rather than build an engine aiming at midrange power it made sense to spend more money on the motor to allow for future power related mods.
I mention this as you will see as you read the following updates that items such as the inter cooler have been changed. This is not a result of Daz Davies selecting the wrong items, as when the engine parts where ordered we had a budget in mind.
The concept of P2 has now changed as I slowly begun to realise it would cost far more money to build a budget race car then 3 years down the line think, “mmm now we should build a proper one”.
I am not suggesting it now has an unlimited budget because things aren’t what they were due to the present business status of the world, so I’ve done the sensible thing by allowing a longer duration to complete P2 and reduced the wife’s monthly clothing allowance to £ 4.35
Roger Clark Motorsport have been behind us from the start and are still very active in the project regarding parts supplying and guidance throughout. DazP1 & I have spent many days at RCM receiving detailed advice and unlimited access to their expertise in preparing a track car.
No, P2 is not going to become a Gobstopper as many have suggested. We have spent a lot of time recently under, in or around the GS and it’s then that you fully realise just how perfect the machine is.
P2 still has an enormous volume of work before it’s completed however there has also been a huge amount of time spent on it.
The thread continues from this point
This thread has basically laid idle since November 2010 regarding P2 development.
The engine has been built for a while and P2 needed to be relocated for security reasons as the trailer theft proved it was too risky to remain in the same area.
The project has relocated to Rockingham Speedway where a good friend of mine from the P1Owners club part owns a workshop. Here is when it becomes confusing as his name is also Daz.
Daz Davis and I are still in contact however the distance between Daz and the relocated P2 is many miles and would prove impossible to travel.
With the engine built DazP1 has been spending his spare time on the shell as it needed much work. I spend free weekends travelling up to the workshop to help Daz with the preparation of the shell and it’s from that point this thread is now continuing from.
There are a couple of important issues that need to be known to save this thread becoming confusing.
P2 was all about trying to build a race car on a budget of 25K. That went out the window a long time ago as we decided to make the engine stronger to cope with more power later on. Rather than build an engine aiming at midrange power it made sense to spend more money on the motor to allow for future power related mods.
I mention this as you will see as you read the following updates that items such as the inter cooler have been changed. This is not a result of Daz Davies selecting the wrong items, as when the engine parts where ordered we had a budget in mind.
The concept of P2 has now changed as I slowly begun to realise it would cost far more money to build a budget race car then 3 years down the line think, “mmm now we should build a proper one”.
I am not suggesting it now has an unlimited budget because things aren’t what they were due to the present business status of the world, so I’ve done the sensible thing by allowing a longer duration to complete P2 and reduced the wife’s monthly clothing allowance to £ 4.35
Roger Clark Motorsport have been behind us from the start and are still very active in the project regarding parts supplying and guidance throughout. DazP1 & I have spent many days at RCM receiving detailed advice and unlimited access to their expertise in preparing a track car.
No, P2 is not going to become a Gobstopper as many have suggested. We have spent a lot of time recently under, in or around the GS and it’s then that you fully realise just how perfect the machine is.
P2 still has an enormous volume of work before it’s completed however there has also been a huge amount of time spent on it.
The thread continues from this point
Spent the weekend with Daz at Rockingham and was pleased with the progress he had made. I've never seen P2 any different since picking it up a year ago so it was a nice surprise.
The bay has been totally striped out now in readiness of the welding and body modifications that are required before prepping for paint.
(Being a former rally car is has many holes in the engine bay. Many of these will be welded up & rubbed down. )


This is the critical stage of the build as we need to think of everything that is happening and prepare all areas that require cutting out, modifying or altering.
Cutting our & mods to the rear boot area / side exit exhaust positioning / fuel runs / fire plumbing / fire bottle - battery location - dashboard requirements / fuel cell / raised rear floor section / wheel arch mods / ECU positioning / NOS bottle & plumbing bla bla bla.
We have the bolt on arches arriving Tue. We know need to achieve how much to cut off the existing wheel arches and what & where needs cutting out of the front arch/inner wing areas.

Referring to the above picture we need to cut around 7 mm off the curved lip indicated by the yellow line. This will then be pressed flat and neatly folded back to existing.
The Green lines show the area that needs to be cut out. This will receive further fabrication to form a new inner wing section at a later date.
The Red area suggests the section of the main chassis we need to cut out.
We shall only be removing a little at a time.
I have taken my P1's spare set of 18" wheels and they have been fitted as we shall be running 18" when finished, (wheel type still to be decided).
The P1 wheels are 7.5 inch wide however either 9 or 10 inch will be fitted.
Maximum off set will be 35.

Once both sides have been completed the new suspension will be temporary fitted. With full spring compression we shall observe clearances around the tyres whilst remembering that 9" - 10" wheels/tyres will be fitted.
We will then make adjustments to any of the three areas and try again. and again until we are happy bunnies.
Some of the parts to be fitted.
The K-Sport brake calipers will be stripped and powder coated in a nice colour
as they will colour fade badly subject to heat. All bolts will be binned as they rust. Titanium bolts will be replaced.
Performance Friction 01 brake pads will be used

BC ER Coil Overs will be temp' fitted soon to achieve correct ride hide subject to arch mods as previously explained.




We may not be using these headers (but will be keeping them) as equal length headers may be used.
GT35 Billet Wheel Turbo will be blanketed when running

Dash has now also been removed

To reveal cage location and fixing points. We are currently having the dash flocked at RCM. This will be modified as we are looking at several options regarding switches, gauges and general display;


The current fuel tank needed removing for two purpose.
Weight reduction and replaced by an alley fuel cell in proposed new fabricated rear floor section.
Secondly we shall need the space for the new underside floor pan and diffuser that will be designed and fabricated in the near future.

WHilst removing the petrol tank we had removed all bolts & fixing yet the tank still seem fixed in centre region from the top.
A swift yank revealed that the former owners has unknowingly drill a pipe clip from inside the car and into the fuel tank.
It was as dry as a bone so we assumed it somehow form a good seal.
The hole can be seen in the pic (clean part of tank)


The rear main frame is off for powder coating.
The anti roll bars are coming off & being removed with h/d replacements.
New anti roll bar brackets.
New wheel hubs / bearings etc.
Drives shafts are also out and being replaced by stronger.
Currently on the case with a company in The States who make several options including carbon fiber ones.
The front crash bar (bumper beam) has had some slight damage and will be replaced with new.
We have a new powder coated cross member that will be replacing this existing one.

Just returned from a productive weekend.
DazP1 & I spent Saturday (until 4.00am Sunday morning) on several issues.
An area of the front inner arches were carefully worked out & cut away to achieve the desired ride height and steering lock for the proposed 9" / 9.5" wheels.
The photos don't really reveal the extent of what was removed. We needed to cut away a substantial piece of the main frame running across the top of the arch (no visible in photos). A new boxed section will be replaced to achieve the strength lost and will be much stronger than the original piece removed.
New swaged sections will be fabricated next week to reform the inner wings and this too will provide a rigid sound replacement.



Most holes within engine bay will be welded up by Daz as part of the continued preparation for paint.
The original front cross brace was removed & replaced with new and this will serve as a mounting point for the proposed new intercooler.
We have sourced a front mount intercooler that is a fairly new product and this will be made next week.
This will allow us to determine the positioning and the route of the pipe work.
We offered the new bonnet as a trial fitment and it suggested that the bonnet hinges will need the fixing holes sightly over drilled to provide enough adjustment to aligned the bonnet perfectly with the wings.
As you can see we have also opted for a reverse scoop.


The rear floor pan was also cut out in readiness for extensive modification to the rear end.
This will include a new raised floor section, fuel cell, swirl pots, fuel pumps & lines, rear diffuser and internal air flow release ducting required as the roof scoop that will be venting air into the car.


A trial fitment of the drivers seat revealed that the existing seat struts spanning the floor will need to be removed and a new section fabricated for seat rail anchorage.
Mr Argespeed (former owner / driver) appears to have been a total different shape and size to me. The seat will need to be relocated 200 mm + further back.
This "may" suggest that overhead switches will be required as the final position of the seat may be too far back to reach the dash once in the 6 point harness. The positioning of the seat to the newly fabricated seat rail anchor struts will determine this issue.
Alley and carbon fiber sheeting will be ordered next week as we need to construct & trial fit the new boot area prior to paint.
As mentioned previously this stage is the worse period of the whole build as it consists of all the **** work. Unfortunately this period can't be rushed as a huge volume of issues need to be sorted. We are trying to complete as much work as we can so when the shell is finally painted it will be a case of bolting and fixing everything together.
We are also looking at options for alternative suspension although this is still currently undecided.
The bay has been totally striped out now in readiness of the welding and body modifications that are required before prepping for paint.
(Being a former rally car is has many holes in the engine bay. Many of these will be welded up & rubbed down. )


This is the critical stage of the build as we need to think of everything that is happening and prepare all areas that require cutting out, modifying or altering.
Cutting our & mods to the rear boot area / side exit exhaust positioning / fuel runs / fire plumbing / fire bottle - battery location - dashboard requirements / fuel cell / raised rear floor section / wheel arch mods / ECU positioning / NOS bottle & plumbing bla bla bla.
We have the bolt on arches arriving Tue. We know need to achieve how much to cut off the existing wheel arches and what & where needs cutting out of the front arch/inner wing areas.

Referring to the above picture we need to cut around 7 mm off the curved lip indicated by the yellow line. This will then be pressed flat and neatly folded back to existing.
The Green lines show the area that needs to be cut out. This will receive further fabrication to form a new inner wing section at a later date.
The Red area suggests the section of the main chassis we need to cut out.
We shall only be removing a little at a time.
I have taken my P1's spare set of 18" wheels and they have been fitted as we shall be running 18" when finished, (wheel type still to be decided).
The P1 wheels are 7.5 inch wide however either 9 or 10 inch will be fitted.
Maximum off set will be 35.

Once both sides have been completed the new suspension will be temporary fitted. With full spring compression we shall observe clearances around the tyres whilst remembering that 9" - 10" wheels/tyres will be fitted.
We will then make adjustments to any of the three areas and try again. and again until we are happy bunnies.
Some of the parts to be fitted.
The K-Sport brake calipers will be stripped and powder coated in a nice colour
as they will colour fade badly subject to heat. All bolts will be binned as they rust. Titanium bolts will be replaced.Performance Friction 01 brake pads will be used

BC ER Coil Overs will be temp' fitted soon to achieve correct ride hide subject to arch mods as previously explained.




We may not be using these headers (but will be keeping them) as equal length headers may be used.
GT35 Billet Wheel Turbo will be blanketed when running

Dash has now also been removed

To reveal cage location and fixing points. We are currently having the dash flocked at RCM. This will be modified as we are looking at several options regarding switches, gauges and general display;


The current fuel tank needed removing for two purpose.
Weight reduction and replaced by an alley fuel cell in proposed new fabricated rear floor section.
Secondly we shall need the space for the new underside floor pan and diffuser that will be designed and fabricated in the near future.

WHilst removing the petrol tank we had removed all bolts & fixing yet the tank still seem fixed in centre region from the top.
A swift yank revealed that the former owners has unknowingly drill a pipe clip from inside the car and into the fuel tank.
It was as dry as a bone so we assumed it somehow form a good seal.
The hole can be seen in the pic (clean part of tank)


The rear main frame is off for powder coating.
The anti roll bars are coming off & being removed with h/d replacements.
New anti roll bar brackets.
New wheel hubs / bearings etc.
Drives shafts are also out and being replaced by stronger.
Currently on the case with a company in The States who make several options including carbon fiber ones.
The front crash bar (bumper beam) has had some slight damage and will be replaced with new.
We have a new powder coated cross member that will be replacing this existing one.

Just returned from a productive weekend.
DazP1 & I spent Saturday (until 4.00am Sunday morning) on several issues.
An area of the front inner arches were carefully worked out & cut away to achieve the desired ride height and steering lock for the proposed 9" / 9.5" wheels.
The photos don't really reveal the extent of what was removed. We needed to cut away a substantial piece of the main frame running across the top of the arch (no visible in photos). A new boxed section will be replaced to achieve the strength lost and will be much stronger than the original piece removed.
New swaged sections will be fabricated next week to reform the inner wings and this too will provide a rigid sound replacement.



Most holes within engine bay will be welded up by Daz as part of the continued preparation for paint.
The original front cross brace was removed & replaced with new and this will serve as a mounting point for the proposed new intercooler.
We have sourced a front mount intercooler that is a fairly new product and this will be made next week.
This will allow us to determine the positioning and the route of the pipe work.
We offered the new bonnet as a trial fitment and it suggested that the bonnet hinges will need the fixing holes sightly over drilled to provide enough adjustment to aligned the bonnet perfectly with the wings.
As you can see we have also opted for a reverse scoop.


The rear floor pan was also cut out in readiness for extensive modification to the rear end.
This will include a new raised floor section, fuel cell, swirl pots, fuel pumps & lines, rear diffuser and internal air flow release ducting required as the roof scoop that will be venting air into the car.


A trial fitment of the drivers seat revealed that the existing seat struts spanning the floor will need to be removed and a new section fabricated for seat rail anchorage.
Mr Argespeed (former owner / driver) appears to have been a total different shape and size to me. The seat will need to be relocated 200 mm + further back.
This "may" suggest that overhead switches will be required as the final position of the seat may be too far back to reach the dash once in the 6 point harness. The positioning of the seat to the newly fabricated seat rail anchor struts will determine this issue.
Alley and carbon fiber sheeting will be ordered next week as we need to construct & trial fit the new boot area prior to paint.
As mentioned previously this stage is the worse period of the whole build as it consists of all the **** work. Unfortunately this period can't be rushed as a huge volume of issues need to be sorted. We are trying to complete as much work as we can so when the shell is finally painted it will be a case of bolting and fixing everything together.
We are also looking at options for alternative suspension although this is still currently undecided.
Shell is still being prepared bit by bit in readiness for paint.
Scott the fabricator is on the case with the new sections of the arches.
This will be documented soon.
Daz is on the case as many welds need doing to engine bay holes etc that wont be needed.
We are arranging with James to view the rear end and he will be doing his art making a fuel cell from scratch and plating the new rear floor section.
This too will be documented
Opting for equal length headers now for spooling purposes.
Also looking at going dry sump.
Although the thread appears slow at the moment believe me there is much going on behind the scenes.
Collected the complete new loom today. .
All exactly the same as The Gobstoppers and complete.
Paul Blamire will be exercising his talents installing this lot together with some ideas he has relating to dash display, datalogging, GPS integration and camera setups.
The car won’t be running on a NOS set up initially but this will be introduced at a later date.









I recognise this little baby, same LC control dial as my P1. Will be like home from home
Scott the fabricator is on the case with the new sections of the arches.
This will be documented soon.
Daz is on the case as many welds need doing to engine bay holes etc that wont be needed.
We are arranging with James to view the rear end and he will be doing his art making a fuel cell from scratch and plating the new rear floor section.
This too will be documented
Opting for equal length headers now for spooling purposes.
Also looking at going dry sump.
Although the thread appears slow at the moment believe me there is much going on behind the scenes.
Collected the complete new loom today. .
All exactly the same as The Gobstoppers and complete.
Paul Blamire will be exercising his talents installing this lot together with some ideas he has relating to dash display, datalogging, GPS integration and camera setups.
The car won’t be running on a NOS set up initially but this will be introduced at a later date.









I recognise this little baby, same LC control dial as my P1. Will be like home from home

Much work being carried out since last update.
Jeez, there is a lot of work to the shell before it goes off for paint, however the day keeps coming closer.
This is certainly the most demanding part of a full rebuild. So many things to do and to think of.
Concentrated on the underside, wheel hubs and uprights this weekend.
Subframes, gearbox brace, mounts and other parts removed and these will be off for powder coating next week.
This was the wheel hub and upright in the morning

and the same after Daz done his tricks



Filler neck prepped before plating as we will not be using this as a fuel cell will be fitted either in the boot or in the rear of car.
We have yet to decide this as we are looking at many options before coming to a final decision.

We have roughly positioned the templates made for the new arch fabrication which will be completed soon.
It will give you an idea of what the finished articles will be like although obviously made and fitted exact.


The underside rear end was cleaned and wire brushed in readiness for the protective coating before the paint.

The previous seat mounts / struts were removed and the new seat mounts have been completed and the seats relocated for the perfect driving position.
It felt bang on when sitting in the seat.


Hole plates have been made. These will be welded over all the unused holes at the rear and sides of the engine bay.
All made to the exact sizes required.

New Rota wheels show the difference in width from the P1 wheels/tires.
Rota Spec-R 18" x 9.5
New 266 / 40 tyres coming soon. Looking at options




Hyper Flow Inter Cooler will also be fitted soon.
Jeez, there is a lot of work to the shell before it goes off for paint, however the day keeps coming closer.
This is certainly the most demanding part of a full rebuild. So many things to do and to think of.
Concentrated on the underside, wheel hubs and uprights this weekend.
Subframes, gearbox brace, mounts and other parts removed and these will be off for powder coating next week.
This was the wheel hub and upright in the morning

and the same after Daz done his tricks



Filler neck prepped before plating as we will not be using this as a fuel cell will be fitted either in the boot or in the rear of car.
We have yet to decide this as we are looking at many options before coming to a final decision.

We have roughly positioned the templates made for the new arch fabrication which will be completed soon.
It will give you an idea of what the finished articles will be like although obviously made and fitted exact.


The underside rear end was cleaned and wire brushed in readiness for the protective coating before the paint.

The previous seat mounts / struts were removed and the new seat mounts have been completed and the seats relocated for the perfect driving position.
It felt bang on when sitting in the seat.


Hole plates have been made. These will be welded over all the unused holes at the rear and sides of the engine bay.
All made to the exact sizes required.

New Rota wheels show the difference in width from the P1 wheels/tires.
Rota Spec-R 18" x 9.5
New 266 / 40 tyres coming soon. Looking at options




Hyper Flow Inter Cooler will also be fitted soon.
Right decision mate. I know I'm good but I couldn't have done half of that on my driveway on axle stands
Good luck with the rest of it I shall look forward to being in your mirrors in mine
Good luck with the rest of it I shall look forward to being in your mirrors in mine








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