Project 2
11 February 2010, 06:07 PM
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Project 2
PROJECT 2
Here we go again.
Note:
As many of you will know my former thread “Project P1 600+” involved Roger Clark Motorsport only.
I just wish to say that I was, & still am over the moon with all that RCM achieved with the P1, and I have mentioned this as some may wonder why Project 2 isn’t being addressed by them.
The P1 project was not subject to any form of budget, whereby P2 will be, and that is the only reason RCM are not building P2.
Both Olly & Matt are fully aware of everything and have kindly offered full support & advice at no cost throughout P2 and we intend to involve them.
Another current project on SN in the Project section is one entitled “DIY 550bhp 2.5 STi V3 Tyrpe R” by Daz Davies. I have read his thread from day one and been impressed by his knowledge, commitment, the friendly Northern fukc off attitude and his ***** for taking the whole lot on by himself.
I was also impressed when we both spent the day at Snetterton setting up & putting the P1 through it’s first proper (driving it like I just nicked it ) session.
Daz will build the engine he has in mind from scratch, at home. We have both spent a fair bit of time discussing the engine and I will let Daz post the intended details.
The aim will be 600 – 650 Bhp.
We are aiming at building the whole car within a set budget of 25 – 30K.
My former project thread on the RCM built P1 knocked up over 120,000 hits over 123 pages which suggests many found it interesting seeing a streetcar build develop using a top end tuner.
This one will be different. I have my sensible head on for this one regarding dollar, and hopefully it will prove an interesting project to many with a similar budget.
Examples of cost cutting would be K-Sport opposed to AP Racing & Syvecs opposed to the Motec800 and such like.
When finished I aim to use the car in events such as hill climbs, Scooby related events, track use etc. A future consideration would be to develop the car further and enter Time Attack in whatever class is suitable, however I want to learn the car & it’s limits over the first year or two, so TA won’t be happening in the immediate future.
The dyno revealed 562 Bhp on the P1 and driving the thing as my road car is totally insane, so I reackon P2 will be a riot.
We already have the shell and will be collecting it next week from Arge Speed. It’s there former rally car and it just what we wanted.
It’s just been painted and includes the following:-
• Shell: STi 4 1998 RHD lightweight 2 door Type R shell with V5, MSA Rally log book and MOT
* Custom Cage fully welded Int. group N T45 cage
* strengthened strut tops
* strengthened flitch plates
* double skinned cills
* Alloy firewall
* seat rails
* doors with electric mirrors/glass with safety film
* Alloy bonnet facelift with STi8 scoop bonnet pins and lamp pod fasteners
* boot with V6 STi spoiler,
* polycarbonate quick release side windows,
* laminated front screen
* rear tinted screen
* WRC roof vent
* modified wings to take 18" wheels
* sump guard mounting points
* front/rear bumpers
* facelift grill
* lights
* modified heater
* crossmembers
* dash
* modified steering column
* STi wiring loom with DCCD
* dash clocks/DCCD
* tank(no pump)
* wipers
For another grand we also had the following:-
• Walbro uprated fuelpump/
• Spec C intank pick up,
• All braided aeroequip fuel lines
• Fuel pressure regulator(fuel labs) with pressure gauge FEV
• GTEC FIA approved electric plumbed in fire extinguisher system
• Red top battery/battery box/electric cut off switch and all wiring Bias
• Pedalbox/hydraulic handbrake and all braided hoses
This is the shell that we collecting next week. Adge Speed have kindly fitted some old suspension back on and we are taking a set of wheels to enable a rolling shell.
The shell will be taken straight to SPR Coachworks. They will be carrying out metal fabrication work including a wide body alteration. We are still currently looking at several different ideas but it will be 22B ish when finished.
These works will also be detailed including photos within this thread together with Daz's engine build.
We are aiming to finish the car within 2010.
Will keep you posted
Here we go again.
Note:
As many of you will know my former thread “Project P1 600+” involved Roger Clark Motorsport only.
I just wish to say that I was, & still am over the moon with all that RCM achieved with the P1, and I have mentioned this as some may wonder why Project 2 isn’t being addressed by them.
The P1 project was not subject to any form of budget, whereby P2 will be, and that is the only reason RCM are not building P2.
Both Olly & Matt are fully aware of everything and have kindly offered full support & advice at no cost throughout P2 and we intend to involve them.
Another current project on SN in the Project section is one entitled “DIY 550bhp 2.5 STi V3 Tyrpe R” by Daz Davies. I have read his thread from day one and been impressed by his knowledge, commitment, the friendly Northern fukc off attitude and his ***** for taking the whole lot on by himself.
I was also impressed when we both spent the day at Snetterton setting up & putting the P1 through it’s first proper (driving it like I just nicked it ) session.
Daz will build the engine he has in mind from scratch, at home. We have both spent a fair bit of time discussing the engine and I will let Daz post the intended details.
The aim will be 600 – 650 Bhp.
We are aiming at building the whole car within a set budget of 25 – 30K.
My former project thread on the RCM built P1 knocked up over 120,000 hits over 123 pages which suggests many found it interesting seeing a streetcar build develop using a top end tuner.
This one will be different. I have my sensible head on for this one regarding dollar, and hopefully it will prove an interesting project to many with a similar budget.
Examples of cost cutting would be K-Sport opposed to AP Racing & Syvecs opposed to the Motec800 and such like.
When finished I aim to use the car in events such as hill climbs, Scooby related events, track use etc. A future consideration would be to develop the car further and enter Time Attack in whatever class is suitable, however I want to learn the car & it’s limits over the first year or two, so TA won’t be happening in the immediate future.
The dyno revealed 562 Bhp on the P1 and driving the thing as my road car is totally insane, so I reackon P2 will be a riot.
We already have the shell and will be collecting it next week from Arge Speed. It’s there former rally car and it just what we wanted.
It’s just been painted and includes the following:-
• Shell: STi 4 1998 RHD lightweight 2 door Type R shell with V5, MSA Rally log book and MOT
* Custom Cage fully welded Int. group N T45 cage
* strengthened strut tops
* strengthened flitch plates
* double skinned cills
* Alloy firewall
* seat rails
* doors with electric mirrors/glass with safety film
* Alloy bonnet facelift with STi8 scoop bonnet pins and lamp pod fasteners
* boot with V6 STi spoiler,
* polycarbonate quick release side windows,
* laminated front screen
* rear tinted screen
* WRC roof vent
* modified wings to take 18" wheels
* sump guard mounting points
* front/rear bumpers
* facelift grill
* lights
* modified heater
* crossmembers
* dash
* modified steering column
* STi wiring loom with DCCD
* dash clocks/DCCD
* tank(no pump)
* wipers
For another grand we also had the following:-
• Walbro uprated fuelpump/
• Spec C intank pick up,
• All braided aeroequip fuel lines
• Fuel pressure regulator(fuel labs) with pressure gauge FEV
• GTEC FIA approved electric plumbed in fire extinguisher system
• Red top battery/battery box/electric cut off switch and all wiring Bias
• Pedalbox/hydraulic handbrake and all braided hoses
This is the shell that we collecting next week. Adge Speed have kindly fitted some old suspension back on and we are taking a set of wheels to enable a rolling shell.
The shell will be taken straight to SPR Coachworks. They will be carrying out metal fabrication work including a wide body alteration. We are still currently looking at several different ideas but it will be 22B ish when finished.
These works will also be detailed including photos within this thread together with Daz's engine build.
We are aiming to finish the car within 2010.
Will keep you posted
11 February 2010, 07:32 PM
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Thanks guys.
I'll add to what Clive's just written.
I'll be documenting every single step of the way with lots of pictures and lots of detail.
The good thing about this is it will give everyone an insight into building a car from scratch and over a sensible time frame. This will also give me the opportunity to take the pictures of all components used and describe what I'm doing and why I'm doing it.
Hopefully it will be educational for most
With regard to spec I'll be brief until we know exactly what we are going to be purchasing but will be along the lines of:
EJ22T Block
EJ257 Crank
Stroker Rods
Stroker Pistons
Ported AVCS heads with Double Valve Springs, titanium retainers
Turbo will be in the rotated position and will probably be a Garrett GT3542R but that is subject to change.
Transmission will hopefully be a Hawkeye Six speed (subject to finding one)
Twin or triple plate clutch.
Engine Management will be Syvecs.
I'll update the thread with more detail once the parts have been ordered.
To say I'm looking forward to this one is an understatement.
It's going to be fun for all involved and hopefully you'll enjoy sharing the journey with us.
Daz
I'll add to what Clive's just written.
I'll be documenting every single step of the way with lots of pictures and lots of detail.
The good thing about this is it will give everyone an insight into building a car from scratch and over a sensible time frame. This will also give me the opportunity to take the pictures of all components used and describe what I'm doing and why I'm doing it.
Hopefully it will be educational for most
With regard to spec I'll be brief until we know exactly what we are going to be purchasing but will be along the lines of:
EJ22T Block
EJ257 Crank
Stroker Rods
Stroker Pistons
Ported AVCS heads with Double Valve Springs, titanium retainers
Turbo will be in the rotated position and will probably be a Garrett GT3542R but that is subject to change.
Transmission will hopefully be a Hawkeye Six speed (subject to finding one)
Twin or triple plate clutch.
Engine Management will be Syvecs.
I'll update the thread with more detail once the parts have been ordered.
To say I'm looking forward to this one is an understatement.
It's going to be fun for all involved and hopefully you'll enjoy sharing the journey with us.
Daz
Last edited by dazdavies; 11 February 2010 at 08:07 PM.
11 February 2010, 08:29 PM
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Good luck guys! It will be an interesting journey for sure.
Daz,
Are you going to be using your laundry room as the engine build "clean room", or are you promoting yourself to the picnic table in the back garden for this one?
Daz,
Are you going to be using your laundry room as the engine build "clean room", or are you promoting yourself to the picnic table in the back garden for this one?
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11 February 2010, 09:14 PM
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LOL Shaun,
I'm thinking i'll be using the dining room this time round, the carpet will keep my feet warm.
In all seriousness though, I'm about to have a new garage built so hopefully that will suffice.
MadHammer (i'll have to call you that rather than Clive as it will confuse everyone)
I'm still not 100% on turbo, obviously the billet 35R is on the list to look at. The only thing I have decided on is that it will be a T3 fitment to go on RCM's twisted kit.
We were looking at bigger etc 4094 but that will be something for the future.
I'm almost certain of the spec and it will all unfold over the next week or two.
I'm thinking i'll be using the dining room this time round, the carpet will keep my feet warm
.In all seriousness though, I'm about to have a new garage built so hopefully that will suffice.
MadHammer (i'll have to call you that rather than Clive as it will confuse everyone)
I'm still not 100% on turbo, obviously the billet 35R is on the list to look at. The only thing I have decided on is that it will be a T3 fitment to go on RCM's twisted kit.
We were looking at bigger etc 4094 but that will be something for the future.
I'm almost certain of the spec and it will all unfold over the next week or two.
11 February 2010, 09:32 PM
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You can call me 'young Clive' Sorry Skull
I will be running the car at 30-130 next month so lets see how the billet actually performs compared to other cars there with similar power, will also try and hit the strip next Saturday too so will be interesting to see times compared to last year.
Sorry Skull I will be running the car at 30-130 next month so lets see how the billet actually performs compared to other cars there with similar power, will also try and hit the strip next Saturday too so will be interesting to see times compared to last year.
11 February 2010, 10:55 PM
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You can call me 'young Clive' Sorry Skull
I will be running the car at 30-130 next month so lets see how the billet actually performs compared to other cars there with similar power, will also try and hit the strip next Saturday too so will be interesting to see times compared to last year.
Sorry Skull I will be running the car at 30-130 next month so lets see how the billet actually performs compared to other cars there with similar power, will also try and hit the strip next Saturday too so will be interesting to see times compared to last year.
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Best wishes and looking forward to watching the building process,sometimes these are the best part of the whole project
Daz...don't forget to get him back for the wind ups
Daz...don't forget to get him back for the wind ups
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Thanks guys.
I'll add to what Clive's just written.
I'll be documenting every single step of the way with lots of pictures and lots of detail.
The good thing about this is it will give everyone an insight into building a car from scratch and over a sensible time frame. This will also give me the opportunity to take the pictures of all components used and describe what I'm doing and why I'm doing it.
Hopefully it will be educational for most
With regard to spec I'll be brief until we know exactly what we are going to be purchasing but will be along the lines of:
EJ22T Block
EJ257 Crank
Stroker Rods
Stroker Pistons
Ported AVCS heads with Double Valve Springs, titanium retainers
Turbo will be in the rotated position and will probably be a Garrett GT3542R but that is subject to change.
Transmission will hopefully be a Hawkeye Six speed (subject to finding one)
Twin or triple plate clutch.
Engine Management will be Syvecs.
I'll update the thread with more detail once the parts have been ordered.
To say I'm looking forward to this one is an understatement.
It's going to be fun for all involved and hopefully you'll enjoy sharing the journey with us.
Daz
I'll add to what Clive's just written.
I'll be documenting every single step of the way with lots of pictures and lots of detail.
The good thing about this is it will give everyone an insight into building a car from scratch and over a sensible time frame. This will also give me the opportunity to take the pictures of all components used and describe what I'm doing and why I'm doing it.
Hopefully it will be educational for most
With regard to spec I'll be brief until we know exactly what we are going to be purchasing but will be along the lines of:
EJ22T Block
EJ257 Crank
Stroker Rods
Stroker Pistons
Ported AVCS heads with Double Valve Springs, titanium retainers
Turbo will be in the rotated position and will probably be a Garrett GT3542R but that is subject to change.
Transmission will hopefully be a Hawkeye Six speed (subject to finding one)
Twin or triple plate clutch.
Engine Management will be Syvecs.
I'll update the thread with more detail once the parts have been ordered.
To say I'm looking forward to this one is an understatement.
It's going to be fun for all involved and hopefully you'll enjoy sharing the journey with us.
Daz
Consider a billet 83mm Crank - 98mm pistons and EJ22T/G = real 2.5 plus real Subaru CDB
No bullsh*t liner movements
Also regarding gearbox, get the cheapesrt dccd six speed you can and rebuild it with Hawkeye gearsets, a few places now stock em.
Sy
12 February 2010, 07:20 PM
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Sy: thanx for that.
Adrian never phoned today. He said that if the shell was ready for collection he would ring today & he hasn't, so I guess Monday may be off unless he rings tonight or over the weekend. Will let you know mate.
We ordered some parts today, Block & bits & pieces.
Adrian never phoned today. He said that if the shell was ready for collection he would ring today & he hasn't, so I guess Monday may be off unless he rings tonight or over the weekend. Will let you know mate.
We ordered some parts today, Block & bits & pieces.
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Hi Ian,
See RalliSpec - Gearbox Parts $1200 plus delivery.
But I have heard Kev at Scoobyclinic and Lateral may have them. You can get them now from Subaru in UK but suspect slightly more.
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Hi Ian,
See RalliSpec - Gearbox Parts $1200 plus delivery.
But I have heard Kev at Scoobyclinic and Lateral may have them. You can get them now from Subaru in UK but suspect slightly more.
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See RalliSpec - Gearbox Parts $1200 plus delivery.
But I have heard Kev at Scoobyclinic and Lateral may have them. You can get them now from Subaru in UK but suspect slightly more.
Regards
Sy
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Any of you guys in Construction ?
I knew in the closing months of 09 that this year was going to be worse, but not this bad!. We have been flat out every month for the last 6 yrs and since Dec 09 it's been really quiet. !
I knew in the closing months of 09 that this year was going to be worse, but not this bad!. We have been flat out every month for the last 6 yrs and since Dec 09 it's been really quiet. !