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12 February 2010, 11:29 PM
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I know exactly what you mean, it became apparent whilst talking to creditors throughout 09 that we seemed the only one of our field that was busy.
Our records indicate that the past 6 weeks compared to the same 6 weeks of 09 is down a wedge.
We are involved in diamond drilling, sawing, silent demolition, structural sectional removal / repairs etc etc.
13 February 2010, 11:15 AM
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13 February 2010, 04:56 PM
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Cheers for that......ugly 
The Meths was a good move along with some nice tweaking from Paul then!! Nice one.
A good example of big power on a realistic budget.
Do you use your car on the road MH ?
The Meths was a good move along with some nice tweaking from Paul then!! Nice one.
A good example of big power on a realistic budget.
Do you use your car on the road MH ?
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13 February 2010, 06:12 PM
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i know you keep saying 'realistic budget' but in reality who has 25-30 grand in their back burner to spend on making a car like this? it would be very nice! your budget is pretty much 2 years take home wages to me, so if you are documenting everything it would be good to document every single last cost just to show how far your 25-30k 'realistic' budget goes
are you doing any of it yourself this time fudge? i gather dazler is doing the engine..
are you doing any of it yourself this time fudge? i gather dazler is doing the engine..
13 February 2010, 06:59 PM
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Your gonna wear that link out if you post it anymore, we will have to have a laugh at what mine ends up this year
Daz, I can't see much happening with your car now that your going to be working on this. Your gonna have to find some bargains to bring this in on budget ??
13 February 2010, 07:02 PM
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I'll be doing everything apart from body work and mapping oh and the driving.
This is a real world budget it's just being done in a shortish space of time.
Mine will have cost roughly the same by the time its finished but the difference is mine has taken two years.
Costs are being kept to a minimum because of the work that gone on behind the scenes is quite intense.
The spec of the car has been planned on paper long before any parts have been ordered. This helps because you can price up pretty much the whole project before you start.
The parts I intend to use are tried and tested, there's nothing ground breaking so I dont have to do anything that's trial and error. It really is a case of just bolting it all together in the right manner.
I honestly think the key to these things is to plan it before you start it.
I know exactly in my head how I'm going to tackle this and know the sequence that I'm going to do things. This not only saves time but therefore money too.
I'm not going to be listing individual prices for parts as that will be unfair on the suppliers involved but I am certain this car will be built within the budget intended.
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This is a real world budget it's just being done in a shortish space of time.
Mine will have cost roughly the same by the time its finished but the difference is mine has taken two years.
Costs are being kept to a minimum because of the work that gone on behind the scenes is quite intense.
The spec of the car has been planned on paper long before any parts have been ordered. This helps because you can price up pretty much the whole project before you start.
The parts I intend to use are tried and tested, there's nothing ground breaking so I dont have to do anything that's trial and error. It really is a case of just bolting it all together in the right manner.
I honestly think the key to these things is to plan it before you start it.
I know exactly in my head how I'm going to tackle this and know the sequence that I'm going to do things. This not only saves time but therefore money too.
I'm not going to be listing individual prices for parts as that will be unfair on the suppliers involved but I am certain this car will be built within the budget intended.
Daz
13 February 2010, 08:04 PM
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i know you keep saying 'realistic budget' but in reality who has 25-30 grand in their back burner to spend on making a car like this? it would be very nice! your budget is pretty much 2 years take home wages to me, so if you are documenting everything it would be good to document every single last cost just to show how far your 25-30k 'realistic' budget goes
are you doing any of it yourself this time fudge? i gather dazler is doing the engine..
are you doing any of it yourself this time fudge? i gather dazler is doing the engine..
Is Dazzler a nick name for Daz Davies? only I have a mate named Dazzler, however......... it's Daz Davies that is building the motor and yes I will be getting involved this time
I do realise that 25K is a lot of money mate, it's a lot of money to me too.
I could not have afforded it when I was younger. I have met many of the guys with the big power Impreza's and ALL are middle aged guys or very near to.
My previous P1 thread should have been called "Nat Friggen West". At page 3 of 123 I was wondering if I had done the right thing, as more were interested in the costs than the build but that's not me mate. This thread will me more rewarding for me because we will be trying to show how a 650Bhp rocket can be built in what we believe is the minimum fund allowance and that's how we came up with the figure of 25K.
Took this two minutes ago, just incase some may think the poor little P1 will now be neglected
13 February 2010, 08:14 PM
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Daz you must be cheap if you can build a 650bhp for 25k 
i think off the top of my head i have spent 30k and i dont have a engine yet
well 1/2 an engine
And thats not inc the £8750 i payed for the car
i think off the top of my head i have spent 30k and i dont have a engine yet
well 1/2 an engine And thats not inc the £8750 i payed for the car
13 February 2010, 08:23 PM
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Are you building the engine yourself or getting someone else to do it?
I'm totally and utterly confident this will come in on budget.
I'm keeping a very detailed spreadsheet so I'll be able to keep track of everything purchased and all costs involved in the build.
I'm totally and utterly confident this will come in on budget.
I'm keeping a very detailed spreadsheet so I'll be able to keep track of everything purchased and all costs involved in the build.
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13 February 2010, 08:24 PM
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Its not realistic that anyone can afford to build that type of car but its a realistic budget for to build a 650bhp car although I think it will be pretty tight to pull it in on this. Labour costs will have to be waved to make it happen. I know the costs involved considering I have done this myself although mine isn't running 650bhp it wouldn't be much more cash to bump it up
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13 February 2010, 08:56 PM
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25k is a nice budget for this imo. Mine was around the same so it can be done. The other car I am building at the moment will be done for under 8k and I know that's what I would call a mid power build but it's amazing what you can achieve if you put your mind to it with these builds.
13 February 2010, 09:13 PM
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I think the problem is that everyone is going to compare this to Fudge's P1 and that's a totally unfair comparision.
That was a money no object project and this one is totally the opposite.
I know that this can be done within budget otherwise I wouldn't have committed to it.
Whilst I'm trying to answer the questions that are arising you have to understand that this is Clive's project not mine so I don't wish to say too much without his approval, I'm only the builder after all
What I will do is comment on the technical aspects of the project once the build commences.
That was a money no object project and this one is totally the opposite.
I know that this can be done within budget otherwise I wouldn't have committed to it.
Whilst I'm trying to answer the questions that are arising you have to understand that this is Clive's project not mine so I don't wish to say too much without his approval, I'm only the builder after all
What I will do is comment on the technical aspects of the project once the build commences.
13 February 2010, 09:18 PM
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13 February 2010, 10:02 PM
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Steve you are right, it will be very tight but Daz and I do feel it can be done.
We have put much thought into this and still do daily, and today we decided that fibre glass options regarding the bodywork will save around 3K.
Other works involving SPR will be a rear diffuser (not yet designed), flat floor & front & rear bumper (still on the case). Plus other minor works.
So everyone knows the situation from the off: Daz is building the engine for a drink. SPR's work will be at a reduced labour rate as there company will be evident on the finished car.
We will document all spending however as Daz mentioned we feel it's correct to respect the tuners business when detailing parts & values.
We are listing all other costs though, so it won't require too much grey matter to work out the overall engine value.
Daz: Not my thread mate, just a P2 thread, and your building the engine, so you need to friggin post your old tart.
We have put much thought into this and still do daily, and today we decided that fibre glass options regarding the bodywork will save around 3K.
Other works involving SPR will be a rear diffuser (not yet designed), flat floor & front & rear bumper (still on the case). Plus other minor works.
So everyone knows the situation from the off: Daz is building the engine for a drink. SPR's work will be at a reduced labour rate as there company will be evident on the finished car.
We will document all spending however as Daz mentioned we feel it's correct to respect the tuners business when detailing parts & values.
We are listing all other costs though, so it won't require too much grey matter to work out the overall engine value.
Daz: Not my thread mate, just a P2 thread, and your building the engine, so you need to friggin post your old tart.
13 February 2010, 11:14 PM
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i have done the majority of the work myself but engine wise no, the build is in other peoples hands
i would say off the top of my head the full long engine inc turbo kit, inlet, pulleys, fuel rails, injectors ,clutch , sump , is about 15k but every possible upgrade has been done within reason.
13 February 2010, 11:50 PM
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i have done the majority of the work myself but engine wise no, the build is in other peoples hands
i would say off the top of my head the full long engine inc turbo kit, inlet, pulleys, fuel rails, injectors ,clutch , sump , is about 15k but every possible upgrade has been done within reason.
i would say off the top of my head the full long engine inc turbo kit, inlet, pulleys, fuel rails, injectors ,clutch , sump , is about 15k but every possible upgrade has been done within reason.
The shell won't need much work other than the wide arch kit, its already caged and firewalled. It already has a pedal box and has a few other nice to haves too.
I'm doing the engine build so costs are kept down there. Essentially the budget is mainly for parts as Clive has said I'm doing it for a drink. SPR are doing their bit at reduced labour rates too.
As others have said, it can be done and when this is all finished we'll demonstrate that.
14 February 2010, 08:27 AM
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It can be done for the budget for sure. I have budgeted £30k as the minimum budget for the type r project i have.
What you doing fuel system wise? Give me a ring later today Daz.
What you doing fuel system wise? Give me a ring later today Daz.
