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Old 22 December 2009, 08:27 AM
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this isn't aimed at anyone, but a son doesn't always inherit their fathers ability.
Old 22 December 2009, 02:26 PM
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True but he can inherit his connections.
Old 22 December 2009, 02:42 PM
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its seems that the only thing the gobstopper has failed to do is stop the gob
Old 22 December 2009, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
its seems that the only thing the gobstopper has failed to do is stop the gob
When something looks, go's and win's as much as that thing stopping gob's aint going to happen, even to this day i still stop and stare at photograhs of it for long periods....

Originally Posted by Tidgy
this isn't aimed at anyone, but a son doesn't always inherit their fathers ability.
true, a bit like saying cause my old man was time served painter i was born one too
Old 22 December 2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk

true, a bit like saying cause my old man was time served painter i was born one too
yip. exactly
Old 22 December 2009, 03:37 PM
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When something looks, go's and win's as much as that thing stopping gob's aint going to happen, even to this day i still stop and stare at photograhs of it for long periods....


Just for you.
Old 22 December 2009, 04:21 PM
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Totally drool worthy, thanks very much
Old 22 December 2009, 04:40 PM
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V nice, i'll even go a bit bonkers and go as far as saying VV nice.
Old 22 December 2009, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Quasi Modo
V nice, i'll even go a bit bonkers and go as far as saying VV nice.
what about the white one?
Old 22 December 2009, 04:46 PM
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F*ck me there's some utter bollix being spouted here.
Tidgy I don't mean to be rude but I'll say it anyway. You're making statements without any knowledge of the situation whatsover. The statements you have made about the car being rebuilt between events is complete and utter nonsense.

I would also say that Duncan's not exactly stating fact either although not quite as badly.

It's always the same, when someone or something is at the top of their game with there will always be those that try and pick faults where there are non.

It's a shame that those making these unfounded statements (that obviously have with links/loyalties to other companies) can't just appreciate what RCM have achieved and also accept the fact that RCM have got it right both on track and in the workshop.

Olly once said something to me that has stuck. "the bull**** stops when the flag drops"
RCM's incredible success is down to nothing but, hard work, incredible knowledge and sublime talent. That's backed up by plenty of silverware and te building of some of the best cars that the UK tuning fraternity has produced. It's high time that people tame the green eyed monsters and be thankful that companies as good as RCM exist and are accessible for us all to benefit from their wealth of knowledge and experience
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What white one? Oh yes, that's the 1st 2cv i've seen in that colour. Must be pushing the best part of 50bhp.

Gone fishing!

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Old 22 December 2009, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
F*ck me there's some utter bollix being spouted here.
Tidgy I don't mean to be rude but I'll say it anyway. You're making statements without any knowledge of the situation whatsover. The statements you have made about the car being rebuilt between events is complete and utter nonsense.

I would also say that Duncan's not exactly stating fact either although not quite as badly.

It's always the same, when someone or something is at the top of their game with there will always be those that try and pick faults where there are non.

It's a shame that those making these unfounded statements (that obviously have with links/loyalties to other companies) can't just appreciate what RCM have achieved and also accept the fact that RCM have got it right both on track and in the workshop.

Olly once said something to me that has stuck. "the bull**** stops when the flag drops"
RCM's incredible success is down to nothing but, hard work, incredible knowledge and sublime talent. That's backed up by plenty of silverware and te building of some of the best cars that the UK tuning fraternity has produced. It's high time that people tame the green eyed monsters and be thankful that companies as good as RCM exist and are accessible for us all to benefit from their wealth of knowledge and experience
pmsl how much discount do you get daz!!! lol lol
Old 22 December 2009, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
F*ck me there's some utter bollix being spouted here.
Tidgy I don't mean to be rude but I'll say it anyway. You're making statements without any knowledge of the situation whatsover. The statements you have made about the car being rebuilt between events is complete and utter nonsense.

I would also say that Duncan's not exactly stating fact either although not quite as badly.

It's always the same, when someone or something is at the top of their game with there will always be those that try and pick faults where there are non.

It's a shame that those making these unfounded statements (that obviously have with links/loyalties to other companies) can't just appreciate what RCM have achieved and also accept the fact that RCM have got it right both on track and in the workshop.

Olly once said something to me that has stuck. "the bull**** stops when the flag drops"
RCM's incredible success is down to nothing but, hard work, incredible knowledge and sublime talent. That's backed up by plenty of silverware and te building of some of the best cars that the UK tuning fraternity has produced. It's high time that people tame the green eyed monsters and be thankful that companies as good as RCM exist and are accessible for us all to benefit from their wealth of knowledge and experience
Daz - keep your knickers on mate.

I wasnt trying to say oh my god what a crap car - far from it. RCM have done a wonderful job at keeping the car there and running and competing (and mostly obliterating the competition) for the last two years.

But, they wouldn't be trying hard enough if stuff didn't break occasionally or they didn't find the engineering limits of components - that isn't a put down on them..... far from it - they have not only managed to do that, break some stuff (like the gearbox at knockhill in 2008 and I think an issue with a dry sump belt in 2009 but perhaps they could confirm this) but also to get it fixed there and then rather than packing up and coming home. Subsequently they have always still been there at the end of the day winning (or coming very very close).

High power and high speed is never easy and for RCM to be there doing both is awesome for our community and says a lot about how they build a car. If I were to be looking for a tuner/builder - they would be right at the top of the list.

Now please can people stop thinking I am knocking RCM - I am not.
Old 22 December 2009, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chunkb
They have not had anything happen behind closed doors,the car has always ran well thats why they win so much,its reliability thats wins not big big power,the only thing the Gobstopper has had in the last 3-4 years are a piston and bearing change and that was when Matt was just doing a normal check on the engine to see how things looked.
Last years Time Attack was won at a canter by RCM,they have been busy with changes at work,tell you more about that later.


2 litre reliability,top quality parts and the guy who built it is a decent mechanic,well he's ok.


There he is,doing his bit.
Matt would be the first person to say you are talking bollox, if you were to ask him. I've been at a lot of the TA events, either driving or part of the technical backup to some of the cars at various levels, and all of the big power cars need working on during the events to keep them runnning at tip top condition.

I've seen the gearbox swapped out on the Gobstopper at one round because it broke, Matt has had to do various other small jobs at other rounds i wont go into. Thats the nature of these cars, they need constant attention. Yes you need reliability to win, but you also need a fair bit of power in TA Pro, of which the gobstopper is right up the top end of that when they wind it up for the final run.

I work on top end high power racecars, and trust me, you strip them all the time if you want them to be safe and reliable. Most races are as much won in the workshop as on the track, but even with the best prep in the world things can break.

With regards to the Zen car in Japan, i was part of the team out there, we had zero issues bar one area of the car. First day there we ran the car up on a local dyno to check the mapping for the local fuel. A completely off the shelf component, the cam pulley, sheered and destroyed all the valves. So overnight we sourced a cam pulley set, cambelt and a set of valves, plus gaskets etc and rebuilt the engine. The car was on track the next morning and ran without fault all day.

The next day we upped the pace further and at that point started to pull more cornering G than the car had ever experienced before, they run softer tyres in Japan and that made the difference. That caused an oil surge issue that hadnt been seen in the UK and caused a bearing failure.

Rather than give up, we decided to source a new crank, rods, bearings etc and rebuild the engine again overnight. We knew the engine wouldnt last long because the oil surge issue needed a redesign of the sump system to fix, something we didnt have the facilities for in Japan. But we had gone all that way and the car was showing good pace, so the team bit the bullet and got on with the job.

Next day we had the car ready to run again and sent phil out with him knowing he didnt have much running time to get the job done, it would have been easy to slow the car down but we wanted to be the top foreign team ever to run in Japan. The engine lasted long enough to do just that, Zen can say they are the highest finishing none japanese team ever to compete at Tskuba, and having now developed the current car far beyond what the blue car was, had the funds been there they would probably get that car into the top 5 now, maybe higher.

Nothing is easy when you are breaking new ground, it's easy to not know what you are talking about and stand back criticising though.
Old 22 December 2009, 07:08 PM
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I would say my knickers are still on Duncan but that could lead to rumours of a different kind

I know you weren't slagging RCM as such I was just trying to quash the rumours that the engine is rebuilt in between events because I know for a fact it isn't.

I know this last year they had a handful of problems but nothing that was considered a castrophic failure. These included things such as a selector issue, a failed map sensor and a belt problem that was a consequence of running 10500rpm. As said these are minor problems and as far as i'm aware the engine only got built once last year. That's hardly reason to give them a hard time neither is giving them a hard time just because they carry spare gearboxes etc. It's not like other teams can't do that aswell.

There's no reason to have a go at them just because they are organised. It just shows how professsional they are.

BTW this isn't *** kissing or discount hunting for that matter :P Those that know me will know I just call it as I see it. I'm just stating what, to the best of my knowledge, is fact.
Old 22 December 2009, 07:21 PM
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Thought this thread was about Simon Norris and his car.....lol..

I would love to see some of the big tuners take on the rallycross scene....there only seem to be a handfull of Jap cars competing........Proper bit of competetive motorsport i reckon.

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Old 22 December 2009, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rooferman
Thought this thread was about Simon Norris and his car.....lol..

I would love to see some of the big tuners take on the rallycross scene....there only seem to be a handfull of Jap cars competing........Proper bit of competetive motorsport i reckon.
so did i?
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I didn't think the gearbox problem at Silverstone 2008 was all that serious, so I've just checked with Matt. He says that it was a pin in the gearbox that broke. Given the time they had to fix it, it was easier to whip the box out and put a new one in rather than strip the original box down and replace the pin.
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Originally Posted by chunkb
When something looks, go's and win's as much as that thing stopping gob's aint going to happen, even to this day i still stop and stare at photograhs of it for long periods....


Just for you.

they really should do a poster of this.......
Old 24 December 2009, 10:36 PM
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Had to laugh, only one thing as stubborn as a Scooby driver, another one.You shall not pass!

I'm referring to the vids via tidgy btw. Nice work.

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