Dear Mr Blair - could you clarify please?
14 December 2009, 05:47 PM
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14 December 2009, 06:37 PM
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There was an investigation, which had the facts, the details and the information we don't.
The conclusion of that investigation?
The Hutton Inquiry reported on 28 January 2004 confirming that Kelly had committed suicide. Lord Hutton wrote:
I am satisfied that none of the persons whose decisions and actions I later describe ever contemplated that Kelly might take his own life. I am further satisfied that none of those persons was at fault in not contemplating that Kelly might take his own life. Whatever pressures and strains Kelly was subjected to by the decisions and actions taken in the weeks before his death, I am satisfied that no one realised or should have realised that those pressures and strains might drive him to take his own life or contribute to his decision to do so.
Hutton concluded, controversially, that the Ministry of Defence were obliged to make Kelly's identity known once he came forward as a potential source, and had not acted in a duplicitous manner. However, Hutton criticised the MoD for not alerting Kelly to the fact that his name had become known to the press"
The conclusion of that investigation?
The Hutton Inquiry reported on 28 January 2004 confirming that Kelly had committed suicide. Lord Hutton wrote:
I am satisfied that none of the persons whose decisions and actions I later describe ever contemplated that Kelly might take his own life. I am further satisfied that none of those persons was at fault in not contemplating that Kelly might take his own life. Whatever pressures and strains Kelly was subjected to by the decisions and actions taken in the weeks before his death, I am satisfied that no one realised or should have realised that those pressures and strains might drive him to take his own life or contribute to his decision to do so.
Hutton concluded, controversially, that the Ministry of Defence were obliged to make Kelly's identity known once he came forward as a potential source, and had not acted in a duplicitous manner. However, Hutton criticised the MoD for not alerting Kelly to the fact that his name had become known to the press"
14 December 2009, 07:41 PM
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Doctors Say Dr. Kelly was Murdered, Launch Legal Action for New Investigation
"... Six doctors who believe government scientist David Kelly was murdered have launched a ground-breaking legal action to demand the inquest into his death is reopened. They are to publish a hard-hitting report which they claim proves the weapons expert did not commit suicide as the Hutton Report decided ..."
Seems the medical people say the Hutton enquiry obviously didn't have all the facts ....
Dave
"... Six doctors who believe government scientist David Kelly was murdered have launched a ground-breaking legal action to demand the inquest into his death is reopened. They are to publish a hard-hitting report which they claim proves the weapons expert did not commit suicide as the Hutton Report decided ..."
Seems the medical people say the Hutton enquiry obviously didn't have all the facts ....
Dave
14 December 2009, 08:45 PM
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Shaphan: Lingering questions about Robin Cook's death
People have forgotten about Robin Cook, Another person who was against the war and spoke up about it and strangely died all of a sudden
People have forgotten about Robin Cook, Another person who was against the war and spoke up about it and strangely died all of a sudden
14 December 2009, 10:10 PM
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14 December 2009, 11:06 PM
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Hey. Never said what *I* believe. I just pointed out that 6*doctors* are so unconvinced by the outcome of the Hutton Enquiry that they're taking legal action. No conspiracy theory here. It is a *fact* that they're taking legal action. Discuss.
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15 December 2009, 09:04 AM
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Probably 96,675 doctors agree with the enquiry ....... just because 6 are taking legal action doesn't mean anything .... we don't know what their motives are, who is paying for the action, etc.
15 December 2009, 10:30 AM
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You *** make me laugh .... I bet if you played Rugby, when they went into the scrum you would think they were talking about you!
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15 December 2009, 10:51 AM
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There was an investigation, which had the facts, the details and the information we don't.
The conclusion of that investigation?
The Hutton Inquiry reported on 28 January 2004 confirming that Kelly had committed suicide. Lord Hutton wrote:
I am satisfied that none of the persons whose decisions and actions I later describe ever contemplated that Kelly might take his own life. I am further satisfied that none of those persons was at fault in not contemplating that Kelly might take his own life. Whatever pressures and strains Kelly was subjected to by the decisions and actions taken in the weeks before his death, I am satisfied that no one realised or should have realised that those pressures and strains might drive him to take his own life or contribute to his decision to do so.
Hutton concluded, controversially, that the Ministry of Defence were obliged to make Kelly's identity known once he came forward as a potential source, and had not acted in a duplicitous manner. However, Hutton criticised the MoD for not alerting Kelly to the fact that his name had become known to the press"
The conclusion of that investigation?
The Hutton Inquiry reported on 28 January 2004 confirming that Kelly had committed suicide. Lord Hutton wrote:
I am satisfied that none of the persons whose decisions and actions I later describe ever contemplated that Kelly might take his own life. I am further satisfied that none of those persons was at fault in not contemplating that Kelly might take his own life. Whatever pressures and strains Kelly was subjected to by the decisions and actions taken in the weeks before his death, I am satisfied that no one realised or should have realised that those pressures and strains might drive him to take his own life or contribute to his decision to do so.
Hutton concluded, controversially, that the Ministry of Defence were obliged to make Kelly's identity known once he came forward as a potential source, and had not acted in a duplicitous manner. However, Hutton criticised the MoD for not alerting Kelly to the fact that his name had become known to the press"
Les
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15 December 2009, 02:14 PM
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Great comeback Pete, didnt see that one coming for a second lol.
Lets see if our great legal system allows the re-opening of the case.
You said yourself that its ok to lie if its for the greater good. So thats my whole point, seeing as you missed it the first time around... Did they lie about his death, as it was for an important cause?
Cant have it both ways, leaders are allowed to lie, and admit they do, which means you cant believe a word they say, or have anything to do with.
I am pleased that the 6 doctors are challenging the outcome. Given that the facts presented DONT add up.
Bit like global taxing, oops global warming I mean.
Lets see if our great legal system allows the re-opening of the case.
You said yourself that its ok to lie if its for the greater good. So thats my whole point, seeing as you missed it the first time around... Did they lie about his death, as it was for an important cause?
Cant have it both ways, leaders are allowed to lie, and admit they do, which means you cant believe a word they say, or have anything to do with.
I am pleased that the 6 doctors are challenging the outcome. Given that the facts presented DONT add up.
Bit like global taxing, oops global warming I mean.
16 December 2009, 12:02 PM
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Who is to say what is the greater good Pete? Is it a coincidence that it invariably seems to be exactly what the perpetrators actually want to happen in respect of their own requirements!
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16 December 2009, 07:09 PM
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Could you say that a bit slower please? on behalf of the hard of thinking.
I was with ya right up to who.
I was with ya right up to who.
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16 December 2009, 07:59 PM
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Who is to say what it right and wrong. Strange how what the person has done is usually defined as "right"
To which I agree fully. Certainly with this government.
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