alcazar

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You putting 1000FF's on too, like me and dunx? Or didn't you already have them?
Me and Duncan have ordered some of those clear protectors too. You are costing me a mint, guy Looking for a fuel pressure and a water temp gauge too...........

alcazar

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Removing the light unit? Or splitting it? I don't think projectors would work through a cibie light unit lens.......

joey_turbo

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I was thinking of dismantling it, and remaking the lens in perspex.
There are a few round 6 inch projector headlightson ebay. just too big though.

Stevo210

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Yeah already had them.....after Dunx's advice and an astounding demonstation.

This is with the full beam and HID Hella





Dont blame your spending on me....

alcazar

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Blimey, that wall's melting: instant glass.

Good job your car is modded, if it were standard, with that much light output at the front, it would go backwards with the recoil

darms

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Will see what he has mate I have got some Mini Projectors lying in my garage, but think these are a little too small for our headlights.

RB5 Boyo

I have been following this thread with some interest as i have been thinking about getting a set of H4 HID's for my MY99....but now im even more confused!!wonder:

Is the pic above of a car fitted with a retro-fit projector unit or simple H4 HID's??

Does anyone rate the H4 full/dipped combined kits without the projectors fitted?

Fair enough there is far more white light but is the scatter really that bad, and what is the best colour to go for, im thinking 8000k?

Those projectors with black lens' look amazing, i would buy a set of them tomorrow if i could and get the HID kit for them, that would be fantastic looking

Stevo210

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Thanks mate, I should probably make it faster just in case eh?
If you're going OE on the projectors get the best you can, ie.Porsche etc.

Or stump up and get some like mine........moooohaha

alcazar

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That's with a projector rerofit

Well, I CERTAINLY don't, and nor do the lads who've done the retrofits, since it's a dearer way to go, they must be going that route for a reason.

There are those out there who will tell you that a simple conversion is OK. I have done one, and I can tel you unequivocally, that the scatter was awful and the beam pattern virtually unrecognisable. OK, the lights are BRIGHTER, but I'd NOT like to drive any distance on them on backroads, thanks.

If I can get onto it, I SHALL be going retrofit, and my Morettes will go on e-bay or on here

Depends if you want to SEE, or be seen. 4500k-5000K is daylight, so those bulbs give the best light output.
The further you go up the colour spectrum, the mnore blue, then purple the light output, and the less usable by the human eye.

My Hella 1000FF's are 4500K.

As far as scatter is concerned, see my comment above: Scoob lights are renowned for scattering light everywhere, that's why they are so crap And if you put brighter bulbs in, you get MORE scatter.

VTR steve

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I used Darms guide when i did mine just didnt go for the angel eyes and used Merc CLK projectors. Took around a week per light to do and was'nt that difficult in all honesty.





Also did my bike while i was at it.





I reckon if someone supplied me with all the parts would be happy to do the conversion for £150. Also if Darms has a good stock of projectors p.m a list of what you can get and i may be able to sell a few for you got lots of people after me doing a conversion for them

alcazar

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Next question: my car has electrically adjusted lights. Do I want to retain that feature, or go for the manually adjusted ones? Will the electrical adjustment work with projectors?

I seem to be able to buy both types........

RB5 Boyo

@ Alcazar, thanks for the helpful info matey!!


I would most certainly be up for a set of these if anyone wanted to supply them, wthey would look fantastic with a set of nice HID's

Keep me in mind

RB5 Boyo

Meant to say....getting back to the colours of the HID kits, does anyone know what colour an Evo 8's HID headlights would be, 4500k, 6000k, 8000k??

Thats the colour im after!!

And do all the aftermarket HID kits give that 'flicker' on start up and then get brighter and brighter to full light?

VTR steve

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I dont see any reason why you could'nt keep your electric adjusters mine are manual ones but thats only because the lights i used were manual adjust. In the middle of building a new workshop/home for the bike at the moment once that is done i will let you know and maybe make a few sets of classic lights and sell them just need to find a good supplier of projectors then source some crystal clears off here for as cheap as poss then i can build a couple of sets so everyone can stop with this cheap H4 hid kit fad and have proper headlights

VTR steve

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Standard lights normaly use 4300k as this gives the most visable light. The colours you see for example on the Evo and Mercs is the projector lense. You can mod the shields also to produce more or less color at the cut off. The higher the k you go the bluer the light goes. I started with 4300k in mine but have just changed to 6000k as a bit of a test but in all honesty there is little differanceYou may be able to use Evo 8 projectors if you like that look not sure if they are Bi-xenon though would have to check them out.

darms

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My electrical adjusters are still in place and working fine

VTR steve - nice bike retrofit

Demon eyes, anyone?

VTR steve

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Cheers Darms but the credit has to go to you for doing the guide

Thats an old pic now has Audi style leds to lol

RB5 Boyo

Right, enough idle chit chat lol, get these headlights into production, i would take a set, and im near sure m mate would too

darms

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No worries mate, doing my bit for fellow Scoobynet Members

Do I get royalties if they go into production?

Demon eye

RB5 Boyo

Now that is evil

Stevo210

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Like the evil eyes

Yes the car above is retrofitted with projectors designed specifically for the retrofitting market so not off a merc or OE vehicle.
And the shield is already modified to give a colourful cut-off line and they have clear lens as not to hinder the light output and make the cut-off razor sharp.

Bulbs used are Phillips 85122+ D2S 4300k

Exact projector I used:
http://store.theretrofitsource.com/p...96a43b41f0bcf5

Other peoples outputs:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/view...&highlight=fxr






Or you could just send your light units away and wait for them to come back all retro'd and shiny.........
http://www.lightwerkz.net/gallery/ma...g2_itemId=2890

dunx

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My two penneth....

Avoid 6000K or higher for main beam, as the extra blue light is scattered in murky/misty conditions....

dunx ( 3 x HID's.... )

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Looks

This might be the most viable way to offer projectors to customers - in complete kit form. Will be ordering some sample retro-fit projectors in the next few weeks for a test.

joey_turbo

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Sorry to go off topic, but I've decided I have fallen in love with those wheels.

Been doing some search, but can only see they are speedlines. What model and what size, and the most important question, do the 17's fit over Brembo's?

Stevo210

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Thanks Bob

Yes I think that a complete retrofitted light unit is the only way to go. The ones currently available though aren't that discreet!!

A set of your H1 HIDs kits is running my Hella Spots, its a fantastic kit and the slimline ballast is a must when trying to hide them behind your bumper.

Stevo210

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I had months of searching and was lucky enough to find a brand new set in a back cupboard in Manchester, forgotten about for years. Sold em to me at half price, due to old stock.

Anyway, they are Speedline ST2's discontinued years ago. They will not fit over Brembo's you'll struggle to find a set of 17's that do.



And just in case you can be bothered for a lengthy read....an old thread.
https://www.scoobynet.com/west-yorks...ce-dilema.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/west-yorks...mble-pics.html

cyrusgod

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Really looking forward to see what Steve and Bob can come up with.. would love the "angel eye" as an option :nudge:

alcazar

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Am I the only one thqat thinks that RED lights at the front of the vehicle probably contravenes about a million road traffic laws?

Oh, and Darms......Don't forget to PM me what projectors you have, I baggied first dibs

cyrusgod

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Just been looking at The Retrofit Source (U.S.) - HID Projector Retrofit Kits, Retrofit and HID Componenents, Projectors Lens, Wiring Harnesses, Shrouds and more!
So many cool parts!
They even have a kit to convert the H4 HID set I just got (which should do me for a while!) to retrofit...
What do you guys think?
The Retrofit Source (U.S.) - HID Projector Retrofit Kits, Retrofit and HID Componenents, Projectors Lens, Wiring Harnesses, Shrouds and more!

Stevo210

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Get em ordered......
Great company to deal with and good comms.

Speak to a guy called Matt, mention me and I might get further discounts
Just been in touch with him today to get some bits myself actually.

matt@theretrofitsource.com



If you order the bulbs from Matt, go for the Philips 85122+ 4300k bulbs, they have the brightest whitest output.