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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Cheers guys, yes the proof of the pudding will be in how the car performs up the strip

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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meeeeooow put your claws back in everyone.all i was stating is that if you open your eyes and read what banny has wrote in post 43,he says that this is mainly a road car.now if he had said he was going to use this just for say time attack or drag then fair enough but by his own words this is mainly a road car.and as for the envy bit,now my engine is being built again i could have gone down the big power route but before it blew (again) it was running 460bhp 536lb and on the road performed exellent so i dont see why i should go chasing figures that will compromise drivability.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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At this power level, on the strip won't it just eat that gearbox ?

Unless launched and changed sympathetically ?

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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The external wastegate is only piped up on side which is not helping spool, the nitrous has not been fitted (which was always going to be used to spool the turbo) and the intercooler pipework will also be shortened. Being run in 3rd also places less load on the turbo slowing spool and this was done due to the speeds that could be reached in 4th. If the gearbox ****s itself so be it, I have a 2.5 hawkeye sti gearbox put away for when that happens

In terms of real world lag it only needs the drop of one gear and no 400,450,500 or 550bhp is going to even get close. For traffic light grand prix's (not that im advocating you should do this) there is launch control that gives about a half a bar of boost to get you going, so a lowered car will not get the jump.

For testing purposes I may just put it against the sti 3 which runs 450bhp and show the difference between a 600+ car and everything else.

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Banni, your motor's making 500bhp at 5.1k rpm, what power will a 500bhp car be making at the same? I'd say a good 100bhp less. It gives the laggy impression, as it has so much power, it's squeezed into the same size graph, so the power curve is very steep.
I'd love to have that power, and you really aren't helping my finances putting threads like this up!!

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Banni, your motor's making 500bhp at 5.1k rpm, what power will a 500bhp car be making at the same? I'd say a good 100bhp less.

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Here is an old graph of mine when the car was running 1.6bar, its now running 2.2bar so I need to get a new graph . As you can see I'm at 500bhp by 4100rpm so traffic light gran prix ahoy Only kidding

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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500ftlb by 4100 Steve! About 350hp.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
The external wastegate is only piped up on side which is not helping spool, the nitrous has not been fitted (which was always going to be used to spool the turbo) and the intercooler pipework will also be shortened. Being run in 3rd also places less load on the turbo slowing spool and this was done due to the speeds that could be reached in 4th. If the gearbox ****s itself so be it, I have a 2.5 hawkeye sti gearbox put away for when that happens

In terms of real world lag it only needs the drop of one gear and no 400,450,500 or 550bhp is going to even get close. For traffic light grand prix's (not that im advocating you should do this) there is launch control that gives about a half a bar of boost to get you going, so a lowered car will not get the jump.

For testing purposes I may just put it against the sti 3 which runs 450bhp and show the difference between a 600+ car and everything else.

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Send me a PM when you make this video if you need someone to drive the other beast
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there quite big words saying that no 550bhp car will come close to you,as i think you might be very surprised.if you look at the graph of steves car and put it at the side of my old graph you will see that the way they climb is very similar,just that steves goes on to make more top end power with the bigger turbo,but mine hits peak torque a little quicker.that is the way you would expect a 2.5 engine to climb,looking at yours it seems to climb like a 2.0l engine would.
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Originally Posted by bigarf
.if you look at the graph of steves car and put it at the side of my old graph you will see that the way they climb is very similar,.
Except in 3 runs next to each other Who won and I crossed the line over 14mph faster than you with only 0.1 sec difference

Hows it going mate
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Originally Posted by Pavlo
500ftlb by 4100 Steve! About 350hp.

BHP paul ! Your the one that mapped it so you should know
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bigarf
there quite big words saying that no 550bhp car will come close to you,as i think you might be very surprised.if you look at the graph of steves car and put it at the side of my old graph you will see that the way they climb is very similar,just that steves goes on to make more top end power with the bigger turbo,but mine hits peak torque a little quicker.that is the way you would expect a 2.5 engine to climb,looking at yours it seems to climb like a 2.0l engine would.
18th of October final rwyb of the season at Elvington, if you're that confident in beating my car

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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460bhp vs 620bhp, should be interesting!
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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theres always going to be one winner

460bhp newage Vs 620bhp newage should be a slaughtering

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mus 1st class sti type r
theres always going to be one winner
Excellent results banny .
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Thanks Neil, it was a ball ache getting here but all the sweeter when it came to fruition How is your project coming along, gutted that I missed out on your carbon fibre boot lid

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Except in 3 runs next to each other Who won and I crossed the line over 14mph faster than you with only 0.1 sec difference

Hows it going mate
the only reason you bet me across the line is i was trying to unwrap my mars bar while changing gear. next time matey.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
18th of October final rwyb of the season at Elvington, if you're that confident in beating my car

Banny
if my car was running then i would come along.but as you know chy built my engine so it has spent more time off the road than it has on with all the breakdowns.if my car is back up and running and i have the good to go then i will come over.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Arf I created this thread to share my results with everyone, nothing more nothing less. I would appreciate it if you could not bring up anything negative on my thread, as you have you're own thread to do this.

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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Banny, having driven Marks car for years with a 2.35 and your turbo setup, i can tell you, it aint laggy on the road

Just ask Alan Bell, who went out in my car, identical setup to Mark's. On paper, his car and my car had not too far apart figures, me 560, him 500, me 500lbft him 530lbft. Ask Alan which one shocked him the most for sheer grunt and B road driving!

This was in a scenario of both cars being pushed hard across a and b roads.

I would point out, that for lazy driving (ie not stirring the box), commuting, Alan's would have the edge!

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ps I drove both cars, so driver ability didnt play into it
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Congratulations Banny.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Banny, having driven Marks car for years with a 2.35 and your turbo setup, i can tell you, it aint laggy on the road

Just ask Alan Bell, who went out in my car, identical setup to Mark's. On paper, his car and my car had not too far apart figures, me 560, him 500, me 500lbft him 530lbft. Ask Alan which one shocked him the most for sheer grunt and B road driving!

This was in a scenario of both cars being pushed hard across a and b roads.

I would point out, that for lazy driving (ie not stirring the box), commuting, Alan's would have the edge!

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ps I drove both cars, so driver ability didnt play into it
yep stevens wagon sure did kick me back in the seat , lots of grunt and power. but my sti was a great road car (now sold)
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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congrats banny, what made you go for a 2.5 rather than a 2.35?
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Wanted to try something out of the norm, also seen the kind of results Duncan and Shaun had with their 2.5 engines helped my decision

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alanbell
yep stevens wagon sure did kick me back in the seat , lots of grunt and power. but my sti was a great road car (now sold)
Hi Alan long time no speak, how are you keeping? Tempted to come back to the fold

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Wanted to try something out of the norm, also seen the kind of results Duncan and Shaun had with their 2.5 engines helped my decision

Banny
fair play to you, well done
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Hi Alan long time no speak, how are you keeping? Tempted to come back to the fold

Banny
Hi Banny yes long time Id love to own another sorted scoob , But most of my spare cash is in property at the moment But I will be back
>> and very well done with your car.
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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wow nice one
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
wow nice one
Cheers

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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Just had a look through the receipts, and forgot to mention Paul @ Zen Performance for sorting out the Cosworth valvetrain in double quick time. Also sorting out the issue with the collets top man!!

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