Another Area 52 engine failure
04 August 2009, 11:07 PM
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Sorry to hear your unfortunate luck.
I will only say that as you push things ever harder, you come closer to the possibility of component failure.
I asked Simon (JGM) to ensure that mine made it to the end of the year.... fingers crossed !
dunx
I will only say that as you push things ever harder, you come closer to the possibility of component failure.
I asked Simon (JGM) to ensure that mine made it to the end of the year.... fingers crossed !
dunx
04 August 2009, 11:08 PM
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Naa hes a bit bigger than me, but still has no right to speak down to me like im a complete dumbfcuk
Anyhoo im off to bed now and shall post no more in this thread
Anyhoo im off to bed now and shall post no more in this thread
04 August 2009, 11:20 PM
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There so called stage 3 engine was used with a fp green hta, and simtek ecu, a lot of the other "bolt on" mods were fitted elsewhere.
And for the record it blew up at a "charity track day for sick kids" which involves taking ill kids around a track, and 1 pre lap and 1/2 a lap later it let go so not exactly ragging it !
It is, unfortunately, possible to blow up the strongest engine if the car is mapped badly. I'm not insinuating that this is what has happened in this case, but it's certainly possible, while it's also just as feasible that the remap has highlighted a weakness in the engine build.
Pointing the finger at the engine builder (which your thread implicitly does) seems a little OTT at this point, especially given the obvious proximity between the remap and the failure.
Incidentally, if you're so keen to highlight the builder of your failed engine, why don't you also name the individual who mapped it? As things stand there's probably just as much chance this is down to the engine management as it was to the hardware - although it could also be simple bad luck, or something else besides.
04 August 2009, 11:22 PM
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But at the end of the day the engine has failed, who to blame is neither here or there, there is no warranty with modified engine builds, but it's a good way to chuck away the best part of £10k....sorry less than that hopefully some of the parts in the bill will(may) be reusable.. ..
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04 August 2009, 11:23 PM
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I run 450/520 on a well build engine & it comes with much more mechanical danger than any standard set up. If mine when pop on a track day after 12 months use I wouldn't think to mention it in connection with another thread.
Tuning brings risks, fact! If you take the risk you must live with the consequences
Tuning brings risks, fact! If you take the risk you must live with the consequences
I would have though a built engine would easily handle an extra 12% to 450bhp.
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05 August 2009, 07:15 AM
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So if it was mapped by the same person twice on the same engine. Why was it mapped again? What had been added to warrent a remap or was there something not right with the original map? Why do people just assume the builder is at fault straight away when they get a failure? There could be lots of reasons why an engine fails that have nothing to do with the build quality and regardless of it being a built shortblock. I build my own engines on my R5 GTT (not on my Impreza though) and both times it has blown have not been down to my build. First time was down to increasing boost without altering fuelling and second time was high charge temps. Without an investigation into why the engine failed it seems unfare to point the blame at the builder or the mapper.
05 August 2009, 07:47 AM
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This thread is worthless without two facts:
1. Who mapped this car
2. An engineers report
Its all very well mentioning A52's name, but without the above then it means nothing. My car let go while being mapped with Bob Rawle & in the hands of a "respected" tuner, but I haven't felt the need to put up a thread to warn people from using either business.
Pointless thread of evAr...
1. Who mapped this car
2. An engineers report
Its all very well mentioning A52's name, but without the above then it means nothing. My car let go while being mapped with Bob Rawle & in the hands of a "respected" tuner, but I haven't felt the need to put up a thread to warn people from using either business.
Pointless thread of evAr...
05 August 2009, 08:44 AM
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For a year you didn't have an issue with Area52 either, and then coincidentally your engine goes after another complaint goes in against them. It really concerns me that the company in question (or any company in fact) can have their reputation damaged so badly without hard facts. Also, the complainants will just be called c*nts by other posters if it turns out they are lying or trying to swing the lead. (Jesus, my wife calls me worse.) Hardly fair is it?
05 August 2009, 01:48 PM
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Timmy, the guy is obviously over the moon with the map, so he wont name them, but not happy with the job done a year ago, thats why he is slating ARea52.
I had front pads fitted a year ago and they need replacing again, I dont know whether to blame the fitter or the manufacturer? Better not blame the fitter, it was me!
Banny, you are dead on, this is fast becoming a witch hunt. Its a bit uncomfortable seeing these guys coming out of the woodwork to try and bang another nail in the coffin.
I had front pads fitted a year ago and they need replacing again, I dont know whether to blame the fitter or the manufacturer? Better not blame the fitter, it was me!
Banny, you are dead on, this is fast becoming a witch hunt. Its a bit uncomfortable seeing these guys coming out of the woodwork to try and bang another nail in the coffin.
05 August 2009, 02:09 PM
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4 years ago my car had a new clutch and decat downpipe fitted.
Then a few months I was ragging the hell out of it down the M62 and the bottom end went. does anybody agree that I should go back to the garage that fitted the clutch and demand a new engine from them?
Just for the record for those that dont reconize it the above is sarcasm....
Then a few months I was ragging the hell out of it down the M62 and the bottom end went. does anybody agree that I should go back to the garage that fitted the clutch and demand a new engine from them?
Just for the record for those that dont reconize it the above is sarcasm....
05 August 2009, 02:15 PM
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4 years ago my car had a new clutch and decat downpipe fitted.
Then a few months I was ragging the hell out of it down the M62 and the bottom end went. does anybody agree that I should go back to the garage that fitted the clutch and demand a new engine from them?
Just for the record for those that dont reconize it the above is sarcasm....
Then a few months I was ragging the hell out of it down the M62 and the bottom end went. does anybody agree that I should go back to the garage that fitted the clutch and demand a new engine from them?
Just for the record for those that dont reconize it the above is sarcasm....
05 August 2009, 02:43 PM
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I would seek legal advice or at least speak to citizens advice to see where you stand.
Act quickly - I had an engine rebuild by Thames Valley Motorsport, it let go after running in (1,000 miles) on closer inspection it transpired that the engine had not been rebuild but swapped for a ****ter.
I got an independant engineer to inspect and report who confirmed my suspicions.
Shortly afterwards TVM went into administration and i had no way of recovering the cost of my so called "rebuild"
Act quickly - I had an engine rebuild by Thames Valley Motorsport, it let go after running in (1,000 miles) on closer inspection it transpired that the engine had not been rebuild but swapped for a ****ter.
I got an independant engineer to inspect and report who confirmed my suspicions.
Shortly afterwards TVM went into administration and i had no way of recovering the cost of my so called "rebuild"