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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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I was dragged round the electrical store in search of a new washing machine as the old Slovenian manufactured Gorenje is about to throw a bearing (sounds like a high speed train ) and I can't source replacement parts:


Amongst a huge line up, we were faced with several brands that appealed to us:

Bosch
Siemens
Balay (who? Spanish brand)

about €30-50 between each model of the same spec.

Guess what? All three machines were actually the very same machine, barring the badge and visual controls: same drum, same door, same drawer, same pump acess cover. And no doubt the same motor and electronics underneath. Yet one carries a €50 excess due to its badge (Bosch, incase you didn't guess ).
surley everyone knows Miele make the best washing machines --- just look at the drum inside --- all metal, Bosch et al plasttic bits
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
surley everyone knows Miele make the best washing machines --- just look at the drum inside --- all metal, Bosch et al plasttic bits
Yes, but a Meile is on par with a BMW M5

Top of the range Bosch would be BMW M3

Bottom of the range Bosch is a 318

Just it happens that the 318 also shares the same engine, suspension and chassis with a much cheaper Ford Focus, meaning one is just paying for the premium brand badge.

(Theoretical example, before anyone starts. Maybe using VAG's platform sharing would have been a better example ).

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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not quite, imo, Miele is akin to what Merc were in the 80's and 90's built by engineers not by accountants

the basic Miele model is like buying the old Merc 190 (beloved of Taxi driver's throughout Africa)

because the 190 was designed and built by the same people who built the S Class mercs of the day --- it got the same paint process the same antirust and the same engineering integrity

and thats why its still used as a workhourse throughout the developing world (190 that is not a miele washing machine)

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Men arguing about washing machine brands - whatever next?!
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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I bought a Honda Civic ESi as my 2nd car, it was the model under the "top spec" UK VTi model. I much prefered it to be honest, it had 30bhp less but the SOHC D-Series VTEC engine weighed substantially less than the DOHC B-Series VTEC engine and VTEC engaged at 4k rather than the VTi's 5.5k, it used to poop on my friends VTi . If I could afford two cars, i'd definitely have another, in 139k only the original radiator broke.

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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
I currently drive a MG ZT 120, bought it 2 1/2 years ago so MG Rover was gone before I even bought it, it's the smallest engine but I like driving it, it's never let me down (touch wood) and at the time I needed an economical car as I was buying my first house.

Pretty much bottom of the range as ZT's go but I still love the look of it.
My dad has the 190 and my uncle the 260, way way better than the naysayers would have people beleive, certainly better built than my Saab, actually a pretty good looking car as well, much nicer than the tweedy 75 but trouble is everyone is convinced they are **** yet will put up with anything regardless of how good it actually is if its german. Serious bargains for those not to bothered about what Audi and BMW owners think.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
not quite, imo, Miele is akin to what Merc were in the 80's and 90's built by engineers not by accountants

the basic Miele model is like buying the old Merc 190 (beloved of Taxi driver's throughout Africa)

because the 190 was designed and built by the same people who built the S Class mercs of the day --- it got the same paint process the same antirust and the same engineering integrity

and thats why its still used as a workhourse throughout the developing world (190 that is not a miele washing machine)
We bought a Miele as I wanted the doom and gloom from the missus when the washer broke down again, £700 plus quid and a ten year waranty, so £70 a year for me not to have to think about it, she will just ring them and their man will arrive to sort it out, have to say it sounds well made compared to the last ones, it doesnt shake or eat socks. Bought a Sebo vacuum that has been good, I think buying quality stuff saves you time and money in the long run.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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+1 for Sebo vacuums!
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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oh come on guys, a Henry for a vacuum surely

300,000 contract cleaners cant be wrong!!!
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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SEBO vacuum cleaners regularly come top
when tested against other well known brands.
› Here are a few of the media acolades:GMTV – 10 out of 10
› Daily Mail – 5 out of 5
› Perfect Home Magazine – Best Buy
› Your Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Good Housekeeping Magazine - Best Buy
› Ideal Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home Show – C2 – Best Overall Cylinder
› Good Housekeeping Institute – K1, Consumer Quality Assessment Test accredited
› Home Magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Woman magazine – X4 Extra – 'Our Favourite'
› Your Dog – X4 Extra – Best
› Real Homes – K1 – Editors Choice
› Home magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home – K1 Komfort – Editors ChoiceGood Housekeeping – K1 Komfort – Best Cylinder Cleaner
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Men arguing about washing machine brands - whatever next?!
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
SEBO vacuum cleaners regularly come top
when tested against other well known brands.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
SEBO vacuum cleaners regularly come top
when tested against other well known brands.
› Here are a few of the media acolades:GMTV – 10 out of 10
› Daily Mail – 5 out of 5
› Perfect Home Magazine – Best Buy
› Your Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Good Housekeeping Magazine - Best Buy
› Ideal Home Magazine – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home Show – C2 – Best Overall Cylinder
› Good Housekeeping Institute – K1, Consumer Quality Assessment Test accredited
› Home Magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Woman magazine – X4 Extra – 'Our Favourite'
› Your Dog – X4 Extra – Best
› Real Homes – K1 – Editors Choice
› Home magazine – K1 – Editors Choice
› Ideal Home – K1 Komfort – Editors ChoiceGood Housekeeping – K1 Komfort – Best Cylinder Cleaner
They suck
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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I sell Vacuum cleaners for a living

things are picking up nicely
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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No mention of watches... are you sure this is SN
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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you want to try switchin the vac on mate
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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I'm off to Primark @ Meadowhall in the morning to pick up some £2 t-shirts for the rest of the summer (after giving my old £2 ones to charity) - do me nicely

Maybe get a couple pairs of £4 shorts if I'm feeling flush
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