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Old 04 August 2009, 10:48 AM
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so how much for the 400bhp version-would this need new downpipe as well??
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Originally Posted by p1doc
so how much for the 400bhp version-would this need new downpipe as well??
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It's the same turbo, we can just set it up how you like!
Yes, you need the downpipe, it will match the rest of your system.
Turbo £1144.25 inc vat stainless downpipe £207 inc vat.
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I am running a MD321H on my STI8 at the moment. I am looking for a turbo that would make approx. 450bhp. Very interested in this turbo!

Current spec:

MD321H turbo
Hybrid FMIC and induction kit
Lateral GT spec headers and uppipe
Kakumei turbo back 3 inch exhaust
Lateral baffled sump
Lateral PR 650cc injectors
Simtek
Apexi AVCR

I assume i can run it at circa. 450 and up the boost once i have a forged bottom end fitted?
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
It's the same turbo, we can just set it up how you like!
Yes, you need the downpipe, it will match the rest of your system.
Turbo £1144.25 inc vat stainless downpipe £207 inc vat.
Is that a matching of wheel/housing or is it just a case of running less boost?
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Originally Posted by Harryr34
I am running a MD321H on my STI8 at the moment. I am looking for a turbo that would make approx. 450bhp. Very interested in this turbo!

Current spec:

MD321H turbo
Hybrid FMIC and induction kit
Lateral GT spec headers and uppipe
Kakumei turbo back 3 inch exhaust
Lateral baffled sump
Lateral PR 650cc injectors
Simtek
Apexi AVCR

I assume i can run it at circa. 450 and up the boost once i have a forged bottom end fitted?
Should be ok assuming you have an STi! we've set up several at 450 on standard new age STi engines, and got away with it so far..
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Originally Posted by trevsjwood
Is that a matching of wheel/housing or is it just a case of running less boost?
Trevor
In this particular case, it's about boost. As we built p1Doc's engine, we know he can run the boost up if he wants to, or keep it turned down if he doesn't.
In any case, there's no compunction to wind the wick all the way up. In his lightweight Murtaya, I'd say 400 bhp would be pretty damn quick!
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
Should be ok assuming you have an STi! we've set up several at 450 on standard new age STi engines, and got away with it so far..
sounds good, what size is the intake on the turbo? May be intouch very soon
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Originally Posted by Harryr34
sounds good, what size is the intake on the turbo? May be intouch very soon
It's a 3" inlet, the SFS silicon intake hose goes on nicely, we can supply those with a discount as well.
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excellent results alan/martyn....cant wait to see how you get on with my car.....

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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
It's the same turbo, we can just set it up how you like!
Yes, you need the downpipe, it will match the rest of your system.
Turbo £1144.25 inc vat stainless downpipe £207 inc vat.
So if you just fitted this turbo/downpipe and mapped it accordingly to a STI PPP, what would be the gains? Would you recommend this or would you need any supporting mods?

Soory about the "noob" questions ha ha
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im after a 3 inch intake pipe for 321t on a v6 do you stock these

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Old 05 August 2009, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyschef
im after a 3 inch intake pipe for 321t on a v6 do you stock these

jim
Hi Jim

Samco, Red, £239.20 inc carr and vat. Available immediately.
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Originally Posted by Cocker
So if you just fitted this turbo/downpipe and mapped it accordingly to a STI PPP, what would be the gains? Would you recommend this or would you need any supporting mods?

Soory about the "noob" questions ha ha
No problem! Firstly it needs a front mount intercooler. Two reasons, pipework is one, plus you'd never get anywhere near the power available from these with top mount cooler.

You'd need a decent fuel pump and 650cc injectors for 450 bhp.

Personally I'd go for a Simtek, as this sort of set up is better live mapped.

Etc..
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Looking good alan keep up the good work.
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How does the lag compare to a md321t? Do you have any dyno graphs of a sc206 on a 2.0 sti?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
No problem! Firstly it needs a front mount intercooler. Two reasons, pipework is one, plus you'd never get anywhere near the power available from these with top mount cooler.

You'd need a decent fuel pump and 650cc injectors for 450 bhp.

Personally I'd go for a Simtek, as this sort of set up is better live mapped.

Etc..
Thank Alan very helpful. Price wise around i guessing around 5-6k all in?
Old 05 August 2009, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Harryr34
How does the lag compare to a md321t? Do you have any dyno graphs of a sc206 on a 2.0 sti?

Thanks
Not yet! we'll have a 2 litre classic very soon to test. We're removing a 195S and fitting an S206 for comparison.
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
...We're removing a 195S...
- What are these good for power wise, etc.?

- How do they compare to the (later ?) MD321 series?

- Of the H, T, T+ and V, which is it closest too?

If the owner hasn't already got a buyer for it, I could be interested ...

Thanks
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JOZ8968 i spoke to a member billandhu who is a member on here he had the S206 fitted and words cant describe how happy he is with it. he has it on a built 2.5 and he said it spooled and gave better power through the rev range better than his previous Gt30 did.
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Oh yeah, the S206 does sound like it's all pros and no cons, for sure.......... BUT... I was enquiring about the MD195S! - that Enginetuner will be removing from a client's car (see above).


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Originally Posted by mus 1st class sti type r
JOZ8968 i spoke to a member billandhu who is a member on here he had the S206 fitted and words cant describe how happy he is with it. he has it on a built 2.5 and he said it spooled and gave better power through the rev range better than his previous Gt30 did.
What were the mappers comments on the turbo? any graphs?
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Originally Posted by joz8968
- What are these good for power wise, etc.?

- How do they compare to the (later ?) MD321 series?

- Of the H, T, T+ and V, which is it closest too?

If the owner hasn't already got a buyer for it, I could be interested ...

Thanks
I always thought we in Devon were the ones who had trouble with Seagulls!
Yes, he might be interested in selling it. I'm sure he's been running around 400bhp with it.
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
I always thought we in Devon were the ones who had trouble with Seagulls! ...
LOL yeah I was a bit quick off the mark, wasn't I... have his hand off and all that!

Let me know if you could... Thanks.

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Originally Posted by SMA01 - black scoob
excellent results alan/martyn....cant wait to see how you get on with my car.....

scott
Guessed it was yours I spotted.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
LOL yeah I was a bit quick off the mark, wasn't I... have his hand off and all that!

Let me know if you could... Thanks.
Cool..
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Good luck. Looks like you have hit on a winner!
Alan :
No problem! Firstly it needs a front mount intercooler. Two reasons, pipework is one, plus you'd never get anywhere near the power available from these with top mount cooler.
I am glad someone else is debunking a Scooby myth.
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Originally Posted by jd5217
Guessed it was yours I spotted.

here was me thinking it had travelled all that distance unnoticed as well

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Don't suppose there are any updates on how the turbo performed on the 2.0 litre?
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
Don't suppose there are any updates on how the turbo performed on the 2.0 litre?
I received a S206 turbo yesterday! Will be fitted to my 2.0 sti8. Should be mapped by the 28th
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Originally Posted by Harryr34
I received a S206 turbo yesterday! Will be fitted to my 2.0 sti8. Should be mapped by the 28th
Post your dyno plot and subjective report on it when fitted and remapped would you?


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