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Old 31 August 2011, 07:53 PM
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Mines stored outside, OK a couple of 25l in the garage....!


IIRC the fire regs on flammable liquids really only apply to businesses ... although I did hear something about volime of petrol stored in domestic garages....
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might be worth checking out, in case it invalidates home insurance !!

just seen this :
What is the limit of the amount of petrol I can store for domestic use?
The Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc.) Regulations 1929 and the Petroleum Spirit (Plastic Containers) Regulations 1982 limit the amount of petrol that can be kept in a domestic garage or within six metres of a building (e.g. most domestic driveways). The limit is a maximum of two suitable metal containers each of a maximum capacity of ten litres or two plastic containers (which have to be of an approved design) each of a maximum capacity of five litres. These limits also apply to any containers kept in a vehicle parked in the garage or on the driveway (but not to the internal fuel tank of the vehicle). Under no circumstances should the petrol containers be stored in the home itself.Anyone who wishes to store larger quantities than this, or use larger containers, is required to notify the local Petroleum Licensing Authority (PLA) and to store the petrol in a prescribed manner set out in the 1929 Regulations mentioned above - enquirers who want further details should contact their local PLA. Storage of more than 275 litres (60 gallons) of petrol requires a petrol licence - again, contact the local PLA

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Old 31 August 2011, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rheid
This! Lift the tailgate and check the seams under the black roof strips.



and this gets sorted under warranty..... I've got extended warranty too.
Old 31 August 2011, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
rob

do you recall me asking you to price me up for the service parts required for a 2 year service on a STI hatch

do you mind PM'in this so i can purchase from you???

thanks

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First job in the morning, It actually slipped my mind mate as our parts guy was on holiday at the time I forgot to ask when he came back. Apologies about that. I shall sort it for you
Old 31 August 2011, 09:18 PM
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checked my roof seaals like pics, they arent as bad as shown but the o/s one is definately showing rust.

I need to book it in for 2nd year service so will tell them to look at it at same time

Rob, how long do they need the car for to repair ?


also, cheers Rob re parts
Old 31 August 2011, 09:30 PM
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Mines cracked as well, as is the drivers door. to be honest it looks like its going to be a fight as usual... if you read the service manual it states body warranty is from the lower glass level. above the lower glass level is not warrantied. I'm in the process of trying to see what can be done as mine has actually got a full body service history
Old 31 August 2011, 09:41 PM
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fpmsl, half the body is warrantied!!!
Old 31 August 2011, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Thanks for the heads up guys. Mines effected too so will be getting booked in tomorrow and they can deal with the rusty boot lid at the same time. Going to se if I can get new wheels out of them too as 3 of mine are now corroded too.

I am seriously thinking of chucking the car in and getting a forester now.

Does make me think what else is wrong, or could go wrong with the car.

I assume you have the rust bubble on the left hand side where the chrome trip touches the bodywork

Mine was done after a year but has started again at same point

There is a new worry where the back screen is mounted onto the hatchback frame there is 2rust bubbles ,prehaps where they maybe had to take off the rear glass to spray it so will need that sorted in warranty
Wheel centre caps have deteriorated too

Apart from that its going well and engine is loosening up after 29k miles
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Good job it's not petrol then Stan!!

I'm just waiting for the gov't doogooders to start complaining about not paying PETROL duty on the meths and ripping off 'er majesties tax thieves... the answer is in the statement, it's ain't petrol!!

So, when more cars are non pertol/diesel, the gov't will switch taxation modes to the cleaner renewable fuels... that'll help take up no end!




Originally Posted by StanS
might be worth checking out, in case it invalidates home insurance !!

just seen this :
What is the limit of the amount of petrol I can store for domestic use?
The Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc.) Regulations 1929 and the Petroleum Spirit (Plastic Containers) Regulations 1982 limit the amount of petrol that can be kept in a domestic garage or within six metres of a building (e.g. most domestic driveways). The limit is a maximum of two suitable metal containers each of a maximum capacity of ten litres or two plastic containers (which have to be of an approved design) each of a maximum capacity of five litres. These limits also apply to any containers kept in a vehicle parked in the garage or on the driveway (but not to the internal fuel tank of the vehicle). Under no circumstances should the petrol containers be stored in the home itself.Anyone who wishes to store larger quantities than this, or use larger containers, is required to notify the local Petroleum Licensing Authority (PLA) and to store the petrol in a prescribed manner set out in the 1929 Regulations mentioned above - enquirers who want further details should contact their local PLA. Storage of more than 275 litres (60 gallons) of petrol requires a petrol licence - again, contact the local PLA
Old 31 August 2011, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lordharding
I assume you have the rust bubble on the left hand side where the chrome trip touches the bodywork

Mine was done after a year but has started again at same point

There is a new worry where the back screen is mounted onto the hatchback frame there is 2rust bubbles ,prehaps where they maybe had to take off the rear glass to spray it so will need that sorted in warranty
Wheel centre caps have deteriorated too

Apart from that its going well and engine is loosening up after 29k miles
theres a bullitin about those rust spots john, turns out it needs some new insulation & a bolt on the rear garnish
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Good job it's not petrol then Stan!!

I'm just waiting for the gov't doogooders to start complaining about not paying PETROL duty on the meths and ripping off 'er majesties tax thieves... the answer is in the statement, it's ain't petrol!!

So, when more cars are non pertol/diesel, the gov't will switch taxation modes to the cleaner renewable fuels... that'll help take up no end!
Hope that works in the event of an incident !
If it came to an insurance claim, no doubt the helpful insurance company will point out it is used in a car petrol tank and is a petrol "substitute", highly flammable (and carcenogenic) and should not be stored in such large quantities as per petrol and therefore not pay out any claim !
It is tempting to use it again in view of the relative cost, and store it at the bottom of our garden next to the field (ie more than the prescribed distance from the house) !!


Now found this:
Requirements vary substantially by local jurisdiction depending on the Fire Marshall and the building code. According to the International Fire Code, the maximum aggregate quantity of Class IB flammable liquids, such as methanol, in use and storage in a building may not exceed 120 gallons, provided requirements for explosion-proof electrical service, ventilation systems, flammable storage cabinets, fire protection, spill containment, segregation of incompatible corrosive and flammable materials, and issuance of a hazardous materials permit are met. In addition, special restrictions apply to residential buildings, including maximum amount in use of 10 gallons, prohibition against flammable storage in basements, limits on stacking heights, and set back distances for outdoor storage. These restrictions make the typical single family dwelling or apartment unsuitable for biodiesel fuel production. For these reasons, the handling and storage of methanol for home biodiesel production is not recommended, unless substantial and costly safety measures are implemented. For more information on precautions regarding biodiesel fuel production consult Chapter 2.3.3 of the Methanol Institute’s Methanol Safe Handling Manual.

I reckon its OK to store if its far enough away from buildings.

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Old 01 September 2011, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
and this gets sorted under warranty..... I've got extended warranty too.
Sadly, probably not worth the paper its written on.
Old 01 September 2011, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lordharding
I assume you have the rust bubble on the left hand side where the chrome trip touches the bodywork

Mine was done after a year but has started again at same point

There is a new worry where the back screen is mounted onto the hatchback frame there is 2rust bubbles ,prehaps where they maybe had to take off the rear glass to spray it so will need that sorted in warranty
Wheel centre caps have deteriorated too

Apart from that its going well and engine is loosening up after 29k miles

Nope, its right on the bottom of the tailgate, where teh skin is welded to the frame and folded over to form the seam.
Old 01 September 2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Nope, its right on the bottom of the tailgate, where teh skin is welded to the frame and folded over to form the seam.
Can you post a photo Simon?

Be useful to build up a catalogue of potential problem areas and what to look for.

Cheers, Neil.
Old 01 September 2011, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by StanS
Aren't there some regs about how much petrol/methanol you can store in a domestic garage - re; fire insurance, safety ?
I think I was over the limit getting it in 25 litre containers !!
unlike petrol there is no legislation for holding methonol in your garage or house in the workplace up to 50 litres of a highly flammable substance can be held within a flam locker in a workshop etc

at home you dont come under any of the workplace regs so common sense should prevail as if you hold 3000 litres you are asking for trouble

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Originally Posted by Rheid
Sent you a pm matey.

Cheers, Neil
Neil your a true gentleman !

Originally Posted by nullfork
Jamz (James Simpson) has this illustrated on his website:

http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/quest-...reza-injectors

I think they'll need re-scaling though.

So what's the score, you been told you definitely need more flow, more to the point are the JDM hatch injectors the same size as the UK hatch injectors...?
Same size as UK, so will have to go for some 750's+

Originally Posted by rob84
Removing the atomising caps on the base of the injectors is a very crude and basically cheapskate way of getting more flow, do it right first time and just buy the proper injectors, far easier to setup and wont have any issues intime with idling or starting issues as basically all they do is just tip fuel in rather than atomise for a cleaner burn
Cheers mate took your advice and thanks to Rheid got my self a crack deal
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Originally Posted by juggers
Same size as UK, so will have to go for some 750's+
So what advice were you given regarding the power you can expect from the stock injectors (and what size were you told they were)?

Sounds like there is a fair bit of conflicting advice going around .

Either way, you're future proof on the 750cc if you manage to get north of 420 on your SC42
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Originally Posted by nullfork
So what advice were you given regarding the power you can expect from the stock injectors (and what size were you told they were)?

Sounds like there is a fair bit of conflicting advice going around .

Either way, you're future proof on the 750cc if you manage to get north of 420 on your SC42
Was told the stock injectors would only go up to 380bhp However the sources are reputable.....I took your advice and rang Alan at engine tuner.

Am not sure what size they are to be honest however I am quite sure they will be the same as the UK sti 550cc?

How long you got left to run her in?

Immy
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Stock injectors are said to be 600 cc/min.
At 370 bhp my mapper said I was at 93% duty and would need bigger injectors to go to higher power levels in future.

Got a set of ECUTeK 800 cc/min injectors, fitted and mapped. OK with headroom at 417 bhp with meths. ( need more flow when using meths mix ).
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Originally Posted by juggers
Was told the stock injectors would only go up to 380bhp However the sources are reputable.....I took your advice and rang Alan at engine tuner.

Am not sure what size they are to be honest however I am quite sure they will be the same as the UK sti 550cc?
I'm running 378bhp and still have a little bit of room on the stock injectors but that is with an uprated pump.

I think Rob posted that the injectors are 605cc.

Paul.
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Hi Paul, I read the same Rob post! "Rated" 650, work as 605, I think.
How's your beastie going since the remap?
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Hi Paul, I read the same Rob post! "Rated" 650, work as 605, I think.
How's your beastie going since the remap?
Neil
Hi Neil,

Not bad, keep thinking I have an air leak but it's the 3-port venting to atmo until it hits full boost.

The flat shift is good, need a quick shift next but the launch control gave me a bad smell of clutch so I'm not doing that again.

None of the family will let me use S# when they're in the car anymore.

Strange but it feels like it's getting slower all the time, maybe I'm getting adjusted to it.

Paul.
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Not sure if you'll be able to see this, but looking at the patched STi ecu rom this seems to have the injectors scaled as 562.45cc/min

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Not had chance to look at the JDM roms yet...

Tony.
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Originally Posted by juggers
Was told the stock injectors would only go up to 380bhp However the sources are reputable.....I took your advice and rang Alan at engine tuner.

Am not sure what size they are to be honest however I am quite sure they will be the same as the UK sti 550cc?

How long you got left to run her in?

Immy
Originally Posted by Paul666
I'm running 378bhp and still have a little bit of room on the stock injectors but that is with an uprated pump.

I think Rob posted that the injectors are 605cc.

Paul.
Well I'm fitting a swirl pot and Bosch 044 pump (using the OE pump as a lift pump), I've been told by various people that with that setup I should be ok for 400-420. As soon as I've got it fitted I'm going for a remap so I'll let you know how much I get out of the stock injectors.

Just got to fab a piece of alloy to mount the pot and pump / relay to (see cardboard below ).

She's done 2500 miles and is begging for a remap

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Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Not sure if you'll be able to see this, but looking at the patched STi ecu rom this seems to have the injectors scaled as 562.45cc/min



Not had chance to look at the JDM roms yet...

Tony.
Top bit of research :-)
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Hey Null, is that ickle Odyssey battery up to the job of keping the hatch going? How much lighter was it?
Ta
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Tony,

What kit / s/ware would I need to look at the ECU like that? Not going to play with map ... I'm on race rom ECUTeK.

Thanks


Originally Posted by Tone Loc
Not sure if you'll be able to see this, but looking at the patched STi ecu rom this seems to have the injectors scaled as 562.45cc/min



Not had chance to look at the JDM roms yet...

Tony.
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Tony,

What kit / s/ware would I need to look at the ECU like that? Not going to play with map ... I'm on race rom ECUTeK.

Thanks
To look at standard rom files you don't need any kit, just the software and the .hex files which can be found all over the internet. That software in the picture can be had from the openecu website. Or try rom raiders website too. I have the patched and standard 08 files if you want them.

If you want to look at your own ecu file you'll need an openport 2.0 cable, however if you have a Ecutek map then the ecu is locked so you can't easily download the roms (there are ways round that with some other software but you're into the territory of who owns the ecu rom file... mapper or your etc.). So i wouldn't bother, i think that's correct?? My old PPP (EcuTek) map from the hawkeye couldn't be downloaded anyway.

I do have EcuTek's Deltadash too, but never tried if the lead included in this would allow you to download the roms files using third party software.

Tony.
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Thanks Tony,

I was interested in what my mapped ECU read for some things, and to have a nosey!!

Thinking of Delta dash or similar.
Cable, bit of s/ware, laptop etc.

But sounds more problematic so will leave it !

Thanks

Neil
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Thanks Tony,

I was interested in what my mapped ECU read for some things, and to have a nosey!!

Thinking of Delta dash or similar.
Cable, bit of s/ware, laptop etc.

But sounds more problematic so will leave it !

Thanks

Neil
What things were you potentially looking to view on the ECU? Also do you know your ecu code? If its the same as mine (not sure if all 2008-10 are the same AZ1G201G or AZ1G202G) then my copy of DeltaDash could be used and it wouldn't use up another license. I wouldn't mind meeting up and doing some logs if it would help.

Tont.


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