Ignorance of the correct use of manners and in what context lack of manners may offend, such as stepping to the side to have a conversation and politely making it clear that is what is being done.

You've clearly made up your decision on what to act like and say in this thread and you're entitled to your opinion, fine, no point in arguing with you over it. You're just wrong.

 

Newbie or SN oldbie trolling or not wanting to reveal their real id i wonder?!?

Apparently the three lads spoke good English, maybe English is their 1st language for all you know. They chose to converse in a language that chances are they knew the owner of the car wouldn't understand or interpret (the only reason to do this really given the circumstances).

It is like them whispering in each others ear's so the owner could not hear/understand - bad manners IMHO!

 

Oh, and I don't have any of this written in a tome
I was just dragged up proper, in the main

 

Precisely!

 

All you need to do is learn "I know every word you are saying" in Urdu, Gudurati, Welsh and any other languages where the exponents feel the need to drop into it to confound non speakers.

I have sold a lot of cars in my time, a few to Asian people, well if you well a Nissan or Toyota that is the main customer for these cars, found them to be ok but very hard baragainers, I just take an offer and if I dont like it I say "I will have to say goodnight, thats not enough" and that squeezes a few more quid out.

I tend to say to a seller that we will go to discuss and we will be back with a decison in a minute or so, it is standard practice, you discuss it with your wife, mate or parent just to make sure on price, whether they spotted anything you didnt, whether you should buy it, discretion suggests this is done out of earshot, changing language is a bit rude, but for me, not enough for me to tell them to sling their hook, profit is profit and once they have gone you have the money, then move on to the next car, the next cast of idiots darkening your door.

 

It's just faster and easier sometimes to talk in own language,taking into consideration that we live in a society where consideration is not really thought of that much,they probably went ahead and spoke without even thinking it was a big deal,i mean we do live in the UK home to every fecking culture on Earth.

 

You really are a precious bunch, aren't you

It is their prerogative and you are now speculating as to their motives for doing so. I might suggest that if you don't like it, perhaps it is you with the problem. A sale is a sale... who cares?

There is no ignorance here... just a dummy spitter who and potentially lost a sale because of it

 

Multiculturalism doesn't excuse bad manners or lack of consideration though.

As said by Paul, think of it as whispering whilst in company.

 

Nice try at trying to get people riled up. You're one of those 'special' sorts aren't you

No dummy was spit. You're not very good at this are you, simmer? Jog on

If you don't get it, then you're never going to.

Whatever get's your pecker up though, eh? Carry on if you must

 

I didn't think you were talking to me any more?

Dry your eyes

 

:lol 1:

 

Come on, Simmer. I just can't wait to see you're next hilariously witty response. It's like listening to some kind of classroom banter or something

 

 

You've run out of material, no worries
I'm sure another thread will come along soon on which you can get a good trolling in

 

You are having a conversation with two other people and mid way through one of them whispers in the others ear so that you cannot hear what is being said? Would you not find this ignorant?

 

Yet we all sit here watching the "magic goldfish bowl" conversing with the ether in binary, with barely a mention....

dunx

 

What is all this ear whispering claptrap?

Rude, yes. Ignorant, no. HTH

 

Wrong. It is an example of a kind of ignorance. HTH

 

That's nice... now why don't you practice what you preach?

 

Wasn't arguing, just stating a fact

 

It was an example I was trying to make. Whispering to someone so that the other party doesn't hear what is being said is just the same as talking in a different language. Either way what is being said isn't going to heard or understood.

You are clearly out to wind people up, nothing more.

 

So what? He was selling a poxy car not negotiating a hostage release



Swim back to the shallow end, son

 

Look up the definitions of both in the dictionary. Rude - to speak ill mannered. Ignorant - lacking manners.

So I think both clearly apply in this situation. And less of the son, muppet.

 

Oh, ok... thanks for the tip

rude definition | Dictionary.com
ignorant definition | Dictionary.com

 

If its a matter of manners, then perhaps you could have shown some courtesy by allowing them to apologise and speak English rather than just telling them they're ignorant and pulling the sale. I speak chinese to family members in the presence of my non-chinese speaking friends and they have no issue with this and don't consider it rude or ignorant.

I'm sure we've all forgotten say please or thank you at some time or another, it's an easy mistake to make, likewise if speaking an asian language is all they speak to each all the time. At the end of the day it's a buyers market out there and you lost a sale.

 

I suppose you had to have been there

 

I know what you're saying but the key to the first part there is highlighted, I don't mind if freinds or colleagues at work talk to family members in their own language.
I'd imagine the situations you mention are not during a meeting with the seller of a car though. A stranger may still find your talking to your family, with no regard to the strangers presence, quite rude, unless you excused yourself to do so.

Any time I've gone along with a mate to look at a car, we've always just said "ok, we're just gonna have a quick chat about it for five minutes if you don't mind", not so difficult really.

I'm afraid it's not always so easy to forgive someone for annoying you, and first impressions do count. So, I'd walk away from buying a car if I didn't get good vibes from the seller, the same way I wouldn't sell a car to a bunch of lads I didn't like the actions/attitude of, either. imho of course

As for losing the sale, maybe he's not that desperate to sell and knows that others will eventually come along. It's not like no one is buying second hand cars.

 

Oxford English Concise.

Now, go get a life.....and maybe lose your virginity while you're at it.

 

Are these insults really necessary? Ask yourself, are they adding value here?

I have taken time to educate you, and this is how you demonstrate your gratitude?

Perhaps you are being ignorant, or rude?

 

We all appreciate a bit of good trolling.

Yours is the most West Brom I've witnessed in a long time.

Polite trolling is dull. Swear a bit; or at least be entertaining.