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Old 16 December 2014, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Lol, could be. But I do to think there are THAT many people willing to chop their car for it. And the ones that do dont care about a wheel well. They just want it as light as possible, so generally opt for a flat sheet. I'm tempted to go with an aluminium honeycomb sheet or carbon, although carbon is so much more expensive vs the gains and to get something as strong and light in the carbon vs the honeycomb structure would be a fortune. Ultimately I could also look at replacing the doors for GRP items too. Maybe gut the fronts and retain the steel so I can keep the electric front windows, (or manual windows) GRP rear doors and polycarbonate
I'd imagine there would be more call for a wheel well in carbon than say carbon classic wide arches or do luck style Lightning McQueen rear spoilers lol. Although yes aluminium would be far cheaper.
On another note, and I don't want to sound like I'm picking holes. It's a genuine question that I don't know the answer to but I think I've read before. Are GRP doors legal on a road car? Or is it once a cage is installed it's a different story?
Old 16 December 2014, 08:22 PM
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Well I'm unsure on the legalities of it. However on a personal level, once the cage is in with proper bars it will be stronger than a standard door anyway.
WRC cars have to be road legal and many of those use carbon or GRP doors. They have to have tax and an MoT.
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Originally Posted by frayz
Well I'm unsure on the legalities of it. However on a personal level, once the cage is in with proper bars it will be stronger than a standard door anyway. WRC cars have to be road legal and many of those use carbon or GRP doors. They have to have tax and an MoT.
Cool, I'd imagine Andy F's does and that's road legal. I think JGM may have fitted them also.
Old 16 December 2014, 10:51 PM
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That's a long way off yet though mate.
Gotta get her ready for cage and paint first. Small steps in a big picture.
Old 16 December 2014, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Another possibility is swapping my Prodrive buckets for done with head restraints.
six point harness and a dog collar FTW

your seats are too good to part with. perfect fit for you and the car. Nicest seats my **** has graced
Old 16 December 2014, 11:34 PM
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Lol.
Yeah they're staying. As said, if my head gets near the cage once I'm strapped in, I'll be dead way before contact is made.

Let's get this damn thing built.
Old 18 December 2014, 08:38 AM
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Something ive wanted for ages but never found a solution was a front splitter to fit the Prodrive edition front bumper. I've a few ideas and the first one of those ideas arrived today.

Genuine S9 WRC dry carbon composite tarmac lip. Think this could look pretty sexy riveted to the front end.

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Old 18 December 2014, 10:17 AM
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Do you have a split rim coffee table?
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Frayz I have the front lip splitter that came on my bumper, it has a crack which am sure you could fix... If any good to you let me know

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Old 18 December 2014, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Do you have a split rim coffee table?
Yes its another little project im working on.

Originally Posted by M2RTXbugeye
Frayz I have the front lip splitter that came on my bumper, it has a crack which am sure you could fix... If any good to you let me know

Martin
Thanks for the very kind offer Mart, however the HTA splitter was never really my thing. Thanks
Old 18 December 2014, 12:35 PM
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Humm I cant picture this in my head ha ha Interested to see the pics of it on the Bomber :-)
Old 18 December 2014, 12:40 PM
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Lucky for me i have a good imagination
Old 18 December 2014, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Yes its another little project im working on.



Thanks for the very kind offer Mart, however the HTA splitter was never really my thing. Thanks
No probs buddy... Was all yours for the cost of postage anyway. Like the idea your working on though mate..

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Old 18 December 2014, 08:55 PM
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Trial fitted the WRC splitter tonight.

No doubt this will split opinion, also have a UK300 splitter on the way. Quite like this though, looks aggressive.

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Old 18 December 2014, 09:16 PM
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Where do you find all the wrc parts frayz?

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Old 18 December 2014, 09:39 PM
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Magic WRC fairies mate.
Old 18 December 2014, 11:14 PM
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I like the splitter goes with the style of the car, aggressive road/race car.
Old 19 December 2014, 07:59 AM
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Lovely car and I think the splitter suites the car
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Like that!
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Ok so im convinced he he I really like that. I wouldn't like to see that behind me but come to think of it im sure I would be behind it lol
Old 19 December 2014, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
One things for sure. Chipping out sound deadening is a bloody crap job. It's something you just need to keep going at. The cold weather certainly helped me.
Heat gun and paint scraper, takes literally seconds then
Old 19 December 2014, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BLU
Heat gun and paint scraper, takes literally seconds then
Airline is good too.
Not sure on the practicalities of that splitter on the road, might be ok where you live, wouldn't last long on my commute
Old 19 December 2014, 08:25 PM
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Will be absolutely fine here mate, even on the country lanes.
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Originally Posted by frayz
Will be absolutely fine here mate, even on the country lanes.

Either the Essex county council have won the lottery since I left
or that spliter has a dual function to shave ready for resurfacing.

Over here try to convince the TÜV your still running a standard car.

Nice Motor.
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I think it looks a lot lower than it is. Believe it or not, the splitter sits only a tiny bit lower than the original lip on the bottom of the bumper. It gives the appearance that it's lower than it is.
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Originally Posted by frayz
I think it looks a lot lower than it is. Believe it or not, the splitter sits only a tiny bit lower than the original lip on the bottom of the bumper. It gives the appearance that it's lower than it is.
Optically It looks very good , all here seem to like it.

However , you might find it causes a ride problem called Porpoising if you run high spring rates this can be pretty awful. Wiki has it described.

"rocking motion, like a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porpoise diving into and out of the sea as it swims at speed, gives the phenomenon its name. These characteristics, combined with a rock-hard suspension resulted in the cars giving an extremely unpleasant ride, so much so that Formula One world champion drivers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Andretti and Alan Jones left Formula One because of it.
Ground effects were largely banned from Formula One in the early 1980s, but Group C sportscars and other racing cars continued to suffer from porpoising until better knowledge of ground effects allowed designers to minimise the problem.. "

Own experience in Mini's I finally did away with a full "Ground Hog" fiber glass front that I had fitted from a Laindon firm as it caused the car to bounce so badly, that as I turned in and came over the crest together with the negative effect of the drop into paddock bend, it invariably caused me to drift off into the gravel.

So just try it out , you will feel it oscilate the front end if you have it too low then just adjust it up a bit if you feel it starting to porpoise.

The frightening thing about it is when it happens it tends to amplify and each bounce gets worse. You will know it when it does . Best regs Ralph
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Cheers for the info. As said, it's hardly lower than that of the OEM bumpers clearance so I don't expect any issues or any gains to be honest. Maybe a little less front end lift at speed?
It's 99% aesthetic.
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Originally Posted by frayz
Cheers for the info. As said, it's hardly lower than that of the OEM bumpers clearance so I don't expect any issues or any gains to be honest. Maybe a little less front end lift at speed?
It's 99% aesthetic.
Looks mean enough even just on aesthetics

I wouldnt worry about lift at speed much, I have had mine over 7000rpm here and its only 35mm lower on BCs coils , no wandering around even in a bit crosswind. Don't leave the undertray off though that does muck it up.
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Where did get harness bar from?

Cheers


Awesome car !! btw had quick flick through thread
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Liking that can't wait to see what you do to the inside of the Bomber Frayz


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