"Planned" sickness from work..
30 March 2009, 10:09 AM
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Snazy, I wish you the best of luck in getting your health sorted and hopefully finding some kind of way to resolve the situation you appear to be in with reagrds to your employer.
Personally I find it disgusting that your company is acting in this way and putting you in the situation where you have to make decisions that could affect your health and well being.
We just wouldn't stand for anything like this at my place of work and thankfully we haven't got to.
Personally I find it disgusting that your company is acting in this way and putting you in the situation where you have to make decisions that could affect your health and well being.
We just wouldn't stand for anything like this at my place of work and thankfully we haven't got to.
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30 March 2009, 10:57 AM
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Cheers MrRA 
You have worded my emotions on the metter perfectly mate.
Going to have a meeting with my senior manager and the head of personel and see what they have to say. Next stop after that, a call to the solicitor.
Given the pain I have had in the past week, whatever happens, I think I'm probably going to have the op.
You have worded my emotions on the metter perfectly mate.Going to have a meeting with my senior manager and the head of personel and see what they have to say. Next stop after that, a call to the solicitor.
Given the pain I have had in the past week, whatever happens, I think I'm probably going to have the op.
30 March 2009, 12:58 PM
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Totally agree Dave, that's why I am happy to work with them to stay on side so to speak
Coffin Dodger, sounds good mate. In this case I'm sure my employer has something to financially cover them for such things, bit its not something they want to advertise.
At the end of the day, while I know I'm not legallý obliged to anything, so have no expectations. However in the circumstances, I don't thing its unreasonable..
TT, I know where you are coming from, and used 20 days of annual leave after my operation last year, which I then felt cheated for. Taking holidays to allow them to do thingd that they had already had 5 months to do!
At the end of the day, if push comes to shove I think I will end up doing similar to what you said. Take an unpaid week off after the op, then just turn up at work unable to do anything for a few weeks.
Coffin Dodger, sounds good mate. In this case I'm sure my employer has something to financially cover them for such things, bit its not something they want to advertise.
At the end of the day, while I know I'm not legallý obliged to anything, so have no expectations. However in the circumstances, I don't thing its unreasonable..
TT, I know where you are coming from, and used 20 days of annual leave after my operation last year, which I then felt cheated for. Taking holidays to allow them to do thingd that they had already had 5 months to do!
At the end of the day, if push comes to shove I think I will end up doing similar to what you said. Take an unpaid week off after the op, then just turn up at work unable to do anything for a few weeks.
) and a re therefore possibly putting others/yourself at risk. Admittedly you're in a different work environment to what I was, but they'll have a line worked out. The only way IMO you can get round it is if the employers agree in writing for you to have a phased return to work.From previous posts, it seems your employers are more tolerant than mine were, so just speaking from experience Michael. HTH
30 March 2009, 01:12 PM
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Cheers COB.
The people who actually know what they are doing have been very accomodating. Sadly a lot of the issues revolve around a manager who was just being an ****, and has now left.
With regards to dismissal for not being able to carry out my duties, recovery from an operation is not really a "condition" as such, more a temporary state. So I am pretty confident that that alone would not result in termination. I could be wrong lol.
With regards to the legal side of things, my employers have already accepted responsibility and liability for the previous situation, so I am on slightly better ground based on this. But far from untouchable.
I just want the damn op and not to lose out too much. Last thing I want is me mum stressing about bills etc, while im recovering. So as I say, financial loss is a last option.
The people who actually know what they are doing have been very accomodating. Sadly a lot of the issues revolve around a manager who was just being an ****, and has now left.
With regards to dismissal for not being able to carry out my duties, recovery from an operation is not really a "condition" as such, more a temporary state. So I am pretty confident that that alone would not result in termination. I could be wrong lol.
With regards to the legal side of things, my employers have already accepted responsibility and liability for the previous situation, so I am on slightly better ground based on this. But far from untouchable.
I just want the damn op and not to lose out too much. Last thing I want is me mum stressing about bills etc, while im recovering. So as I say, financial loss is a last option.
30 March 2009, 01:17 PM
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Cheers COB.
The people who actually know what they are doing have been very accomodating. Sadly a lot of the issues revolve around a manager who was just being an ****, and has now left.
With regards to dismissal for not being able to carry out my duties, recovery from an operation is not really a "condition" as such, more a temporary state. So I am pretty confident that that alone would not result in termination. I could be wrong lol.
With regards to the legal side of things, my employers have already accepted responsibility and liability for the previous situation, so I am on slightly better ground based on this. But far from untouchable.
I just want the damn op and not to lose out too much. Last thing I want is me mum stressing about bills etc, while im recovering. So as I say, financial loss is a last option.
The people who actually know what they are doing have been very accomodating. Sadly a lot of the issues revolve around a manager who was just being an ****, and has now left.
With regards to dismissal for not being able to carry out my duties, recovery from an operation is not really a "condition" as such, more a temporary state. So I am pretty confident that that alone would not result in termination. I could be wrong lol.
With regards to the legal side of things, my employers have already accepted responsibility and liability for the previous situation, so I am on slightly better ground based on this. But far from untouchable.
I just want the damn op and not to lose out too much. Last thing I want is me mum stressing about bills etc, while im recovering. So as I say, financial loss is a last option.
Knowing the above, I would be fighting for full pay - especially if negligence on the companies part is involved. But your solicitor will be holding onto this deep in their claws
30 March 2009, 02:05 PM
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Solicitor is indeed holding them with the grip of a tiger right now, but sadly it all takes time. With the op 3 weeks away, its time I dont have. In the long run I can pursue the company to recover any lost income when I am off sick post op. But as I say, the money is needed in the now, not later.
In a perfect world, the legal case will hurry up, my employer will agree to some form of sick pay, and I will keep my job. 2 our of 3 will do for now lol.
Just trying to find out from someone when the rolling sick begins. Like Lisa said, it could be from the beginning of the occurance, and if thats the case, there is not a problem here at all.
In a perfect world, the legal case will hurry up, my employer will agree to some form of sick pay, and I will keep my job. 2 our of 3 will do for now lol.
Just trying to find out from someone when the rolling sick begins. Like Lisa said, it could be from the beginning of the occurance, and if thats the case, there is not a problem here at all.
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Solicitor is indeed holding them with the grip of a tiger right now, but sadly it all takes time. With the op 3 weeks away, its time I dont have. In the long run I can pursue the company to recover any lost income when I am off sick post op. But as I say, the money is needed in the now, not later.
In a perfect world, the legal case will hurry up, my employer will agree to some form of sick pay, and I will keep my job. 2 our of 3 will do for now lol.
Just trying to find out from someone when the rolling sick begins. Like Lisa said, it could be from the beginning of the occurance, and if thats the case, there is not a problem here at all.
In a perfect world, the legal case will hurry up, my employer will agree to some form of sick pay, and I will keep my job. 2 our of 3 will do for now lol.
Just trying to find out from someone when the rolling sick begins. Like Lisa said, it could be from the beginning of the occurance, and if thats the case, there is not a problem here at all.
31 March 2009, 03:04 PM
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Phew, by all accounts I just got the green light. Good to go ahead with the op, full pay awaits. Naturally I will return to work ASAP
Thats a relief.
Payroll confirms the rolling sick year is from the START of the occurance, not the end as I was worrying about.
Thats the biggest load off my back in a long time.
Thats a relief.
Payroll confirms the rolling sick year is from the START of the occurance, not the end as I was worrying about.
Thats the biggest load off my back in a long time.
31 March 2009, 08:49 PM
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Thankfully the one who has affected me most is thankfully gone now. So im glad to see things returning to normal.
Actually looking forward to the op. Now I just have to convince the other half to take a few days off, to get me home from hospital, and to make sure the dogs are ok for a few days as my wrist heals early on.
31 March 2009, 08:51 PM
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Company itself, not bad at all. Some of the people calling the shots complete arseholes if im honest about it.
Thankfully the one who has affected me most is thankfully gone now. So im glad to see things returning to normal.
Actually looking forward to the op. Now I just have to convince the other half to take a few days off, to get me home from hospital, and to make sure the dogs are ok for a few days as my wrist heals early on.
Thankfully the one who has affected me most is thankfully gone now. So im glad to see things returning to normal.
Actually looking forward to the op. Now I just have to convince the other half to take a few days off, to get me home from hospital, and to make sure the dogs are ok for a few days as my wrist heals early on.
31 March 2009, 08:54 PM
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Will keep my fingers crossed for you, once I can feel them enough to cross them lol.I plan on taking every second needed to recover to the best possible condition, and to hopefully end this crap with my left arm. Not gonna take ages, not like last time lol. But wont be back til I know im not gonna cause any harm.
It has indeed been a day of relief (no not like that lol) Got a holiday insurance claim sorted too, so its been a nice positive day. Lets hope I can keep the momentum.
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Sorry to rub your nose in it mate. I hope you get whats due to you in the end, and get sorted out Will keep my fingers crossed for you, once I can feel them enough to cross them lol.
I plan on taking every second needed to recover to the best possible condition, and to hopefully end this crap with my left arm. Not gonna take ages, not like last time lol. But wont be back til I know im not gonna cause any harm.
It has indeed been a day of relief (no not like that lol) Got a holiday insurance claim sorted too, so its been a nice positive day. Lets hope I can keep the momentum.
Will keep my fingers crossed for you, once I can feel them enough to cross them lol.I plan on taking every second needed to recover to the best possible condition, and to hopefully end this crap with my left arm. Not gonna take ages, not like last time lol. But wont be back til I know im not gonna cause any harm.
It has indeed been a day of relief (no not like that lol) Got a holiday insurance claim sorted too, so its been a nice positive day. Lets hope I can keep the momentum.
Past caring to be fair. Got a problem, and I do what I can do and ask for help for what I can't. Simple policy
01 April 2009, 12:39 AM
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Phew, by all accounts I just got the green light. Good to go ahead with the op, full pay awaits. Naturally I will return to work ASAP
Thats a relief.
Payroll confirms the rolling sick year is from the START of the occurance, not the end as I was worrying about.
Thats the biggest load off my back in a long time.
Thats a relief.
Payroll confirms the rolling sick year is from the START of the occurance, not the end as I was worrying about.
Thats the biggest load off my back in a long time.
07 April 2009, 02:11 PM
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I am now awaiting confirmation from HR to determine if I will get paid. Lets see what happens now. Probably turn it all on its head. But if it does, my manager will have some questions to answer.
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