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05 February 2010, 04:55 PM
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Have you an Idea of what of "all inclusive fitted kit" would be for my T20?
ie, Turbo + heat sheild + injectors + Remap + fitting + "whatever" + VAT = 1 fitted LM420-S60 kit = £xxxx
Cause I'm really only interested in the final end Price .
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05 February 2010, 05:38 PM
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Immy the intake pipe we ran on the hybrid turbos was bigger than the STI one. Subaru said they "blue printed" the S204 engines and apparently weighed each component by hand to insure a better balance. Its sounds more impressive than saying we stuck a marginally larger compressor wheel on the turbo and turned the boost up for all the extra money sir 
Tony you have PM, would you like me to price another new clutch as well
Tony you have PM, would you like me to price another new clutch as well
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05 February 2010, 06:11 PM
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Iain sorry it didn't arrive 
maybe it didn't send due to your rather full inbox
I wasn't going to let a little bit of mechanical sympathy get in the way of beating an Evo 
Anyway this clutch should be OK. You said it had a 500mile guaranty mind you did give it a 495 mile test drive
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you could email me t5nyw@live.co.uk
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maybe it didn't send due to your rather full inbox I wasn't going to let a little bit of mechanical sympathy get in the way of beating an Evo Anyway this clutch should be OK. You said it had a 500mile guaranty mind you did give it a 495 mile test drive
LOLyou could email me t5nyw@live.co.uk
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05 February 2010, 07:40 PM
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Not going to turn the S204 into a track car i want an ra-r or S204 for road use and a spec c for track. Was thinking of getting the 420 version for the road car and the 450 version for the track car.
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05 February 2010, 07:48 PM
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Tony,
Stop fannying about and get a twin plate installed...... just don't let Iain drive it though. He stalled mine last time he drove it.
Stop fannying about and get a twin plate installed...... just don't let Iain drive it though. He stalled mine last time he drove it.
08 February 2010, 06:00 PM
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LOL last one did 5K miles 
Iains got to used to Nissans and Flappy Paddle g/boxes
Went Litchfields Saturday to see about which Turbo for me Iain suggested I got a Brain to start with LOL and to give me the best of both worlds the LM400
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Went Litchfields Saturday to see about which Turbo for me
Iain suggested I got a Brain to start with LOL and to give me the best of both worlds the LM400 Tony
08 February 2010, 10:05 PM
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If a twin plate only lasted you 5k miles, you either bought a dodgy one or you don't know how to drive!
Mine has clocked up over 14k miles and has had some right abuse..... and I certainly don't know how to drive!
Forget the LM400.... grab your nuts and go for the LM480!
Mine has clocked up over 14k miles and has had some right abuse..... and I certainly don't know how to drive!
Forget the LM400.... grab your nuts and go for the LM480!
09 February 2010, 06:11 PM
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LOL no single oooops, well really less than 5km closer to 50miles= 1 airfield Track + 1 timer 0-60mph event + 2 EVO's = 1 single plate clutch
They will need higher Tyre walls
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10 February 2010, 07:55 PM
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Went on the same rollers that I had previously been on when the car was in previous setup yesterday.
I am NOT going to give out what the 'stats' were .. because that is exactly what they are ... history ... as Iain used the data to analyse improvements that could be made .. and today we spent 2+ hours improving the map considerably.
I will however say this :
Iain's data gathering was primarily done on a MY08 JDM STi with FMIC and Induction Kit ... so don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't hit exactly the expected power levels if you haven't got those on your car ... That said ..... whoever gets one of these turbos and has it mapped properly is not going to be disappointed at all with the way the car drives .. it is simply wonderful, giving it the much needed 'grunt' that was missing mid to late revs in standard form
As an example ...
Before the improvements were made today .. an overlay on my previous standard turbo showed that spool up on the new turbo was just 100k revs later .. and it created 55 more hp by 6.3k revs. Now ... I would not be surprised if spool up is quicker AND probably generating more than 65 hp more .. or possibly even more
The original JDM STi turbo ran out of puff by 6.3k ... but this is not the case now ... it really is a great turbo and 'feels right' for the car as both a very quick daily driver, as well as more serious track car
Go on .. you know you want to ......
I am NOT going to give out what the 'stats' were .. because that is exactly what they are ... history ... as Iain used the data to analyse improvements that could be made .. and today we spent 2+ hours improving the map considerably.
I will however say this :
Iain's data gathering was primarily done on a MY08 JDM STi with FMIC and Induction Kit ... so don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't hit exactly the expected power levels if you haven't got those on your car ... That said ..... whoever gets one of these turbos and has it mapped properly is not going to be disappointed at all with the way the car drives .. it is simply wonderful, giving it the much needed 'grunt' that was missing mid to late revs in standard form
As an example ...
Before the improvements were made today .. an overlay on my previous standard turbo showed that spool up on the new turbo was just 100k revs later .. and it created 55 more hp by 6.3k revs. Now ... I would not be surprised if spool up is quicker AND probably generating more than 65 hp more .. or possibly even more
The original JDM STi turbo ran out of puff by 6.3k ... but this is not the case now ... it really is a great turbo and 'feels right' for the car as both a very quick daily driver, as well as more serious track car
Go on .. you know you want to ......
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10 February 2010, 08:43 PM
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Went on the same rollers that I had previously been on when the car was in previous setup yesterday.
I am NOT going to give out what the 'stats' were .. because that is exactly what they are ... history ... as Iain used the data to analyse improvements that could be made .. and today we spent 2+ hours improving the map considerably.
I will however say this :
Iain's data gathering was primarily done on a MY08 JDM STi with FMIC and Induction Kit ... so don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't hit exactly the expected power levels if you haven't got those on your car ... That said ..... whoever gets one of these turbos and has it mapped properly is not going to be disappointed at all with the way the car drives .. it is simply wonderful, giving it the much needed 'grunt' that was missing mid to late revs in standard form
As an example ...
Before the improvements were made today .. an overlay on my previous standard turbo showed that spool up on the new turbo was just 100k revs later .. and it created 55 more hp by 6.3k revs. Now ... I would not be surprised if spool up is quicker AND probably generating more than 65 hp more .. or possibly even more
The original JDM STi turbo ran out of puff by 6.3k ... but this is not the case now ... it really is a great turbo and 'feels right' for the car as both a very quick daily driver, as well as more serious track car
Go on .. you know you want to ......
I am NOT going to give out what the 'stats' were .. because that is exactly what they are ... history ... as Iain used the data to analyse improvements that could be made .. and today we spent 2+ hours improving the map considerably.
I will however say this :
Iain's data gathering was primarily done on a MY08 JDM STi with FMIC and Induction Kit ... so don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't hit exactly the expected power levels if you haven't got those on your car ... That said ..... whoever gets one of these turbos and has it mapped properly is not going to be disappointed at all with the way the car drives .. it is simply wonderful, giving it the much needed 'grunt' that was missing mid to late revs in standard form
As an example ...
Before the improvements were made today .. an overlay on my previous standard turbo showed that spool up on the new turbo was just 100k revs later .. and it created 55 more hp by 6.3k revs. Now ... I would not be surprised if spool up is quicker AND probably generating more than 65 hp more .. or possibly even more
The original JDM STi turbo ran out of puff by 6.3k ... but this is not the case now ... it really is a great turbo and 'feels right' for the car as both a very quick daily driver, as well as more serious track car
Go on .. you know you want to ......
11 February 2010, 08:46 AM
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Does anyone know what the waiting list is like, now that you guys have helped with the publicity ? :-)
I'm after a 450, but will also need a replacement 2.5 block, pistons, injectors, etc and a rebuild of the ASTs on my T25; which is estimated at around 2 weeks.
Can anyone speculate whether that figure is achievable with a top mount/cold air feed?
I'm after a 450, but will also need a replacement 2.5 block, pistons, injectors, etc and a rebuild of the ASTs on my T25; which is estimated at around 2 weeks.
Can anyone speculate whether that figure is achievable with a top mount/cold air feed?
11 February 2010, 09:43 AM
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Does anyone know what the waiting list is like, now that you guys have helped with the publicity ? :-)
I'm after a 450, but will also need a replacement 2.5 block, pistons, injectors, etc and a rebuild of the ASTs on my T25; which is estimated at around 2 weeks.
Can anyone speculate whether that figure is achievable with a top mount/cold air feed?
I'm after a 450, but will also need a replacement 2.5 block, pistons, injectors, etc and a rebuild of the ASTs on my T25; which is estimated at around 2 weeks.
Can anyone speculate whether that figure is achievable with a top mount/cold air feed?
In terms of availability of turbos ... whilst I was there Jenny was packing up quite a few for dispatch ... and she's been doing that quite a bit recently ... not sure which model(s) .. but again ... Iain is your man ... .. or Jenny is your lady ... you decide .. !!
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11 February 2010, 11:45 AM
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Thanks Chris. Lead time is about 2 weeks at the moment and another batch of housings arriving at the end of the month 
Tim's LM480 is fine, blowing exhaust was probably the main problem. Just tried it now and it's making full boost at 3,300 with a less than optimal map due to the exhaust problem. I'm sure once its 100% Simon will have it flying
Tim's LM480 is fine, blowing exhaust was probably the main problem. Just tried it now and it's making full boost at 3,300 with a less than optimal map due to the exhaust problem. I'm sure once its 100% Simon will have it flying
11 February 2010, 05:36 PM
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i went to a RR day near Iains Place. I went to EVO RR day with a mate in EVo FQ360 my T20 350bhp. Wer were about simular performance on the road trip there.
yet Roller showed mine (TMIC) 317bhp and his FQ (FMIC) 368bhp
they did say mine was running lean 
but Iain checked it out and all was well. RR Fan by radiator not down scoop, bonnet not closed so no scoop seal. IMHOI much prefer the backside BHP meter
Tony
Ps. Jenny did notce i had 2 Turbo dynamics boxes under my arm on my way out
I was just helping them out
11 February 2010, 05:39 PM
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11 February 2010, 05:57 PM
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If you are asking what other Twin Entry turbo out there costs...well there isn't one that fits in the stock location. That wasn't the point I was getting at though. As I was trying to say that the US dollar sucks compared to the Pound lol.
11 February 2010, 07:18 PM
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As an example (if I can remember correctly) .. Iain moved the spool up to be earlier, addressed a slight dip in performance mid range as well as focusing on a drop off at high revs by a combination of adding more boost, leaning out the fuel and minimised the likelihood of ignition reduction when the temp got too hot ... ie it is a significantly different animal
Again .. as I keep saying on this forum .. talk to Iain ... especially on how each version compares .... all I can say is that he was very impressed with its performance yesterday once we'd finished the mapping for a car with no upgraded Induction or FMIC .. and he has the laptop with all the data on it ....
Furthermore .. I was grinning from ear to ear going home yesterday as well as when driving today.
What I will do is try to get some on the road figures looking at my gauges and speedo over the next few days or so ...
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11 February 2010, 07:33 PM
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And, just to keep everyone up to date with mine...
The turbo's back on and it all seems to be running OK. I'm having the rear AST's serviced while the car's up at Iain's, and I hope to collect it on Saturday.
I'm discussing dates with Simon (JGM) as it needs the map tweaking to correct the over-fuelling that resulted from mapping the car with a FUBARed downpipe <sigh>.
So, I'm unlikely to have anything more to report until the end of next week at the earliest I'm afraid.
The turbo's back on and it all seems to be running OK. I'm having the rear AST's serviced while the car's up at Iain's, and I hope to collect it on Saturday.
I'm discussing dates with Simon (JGM) as it needs the map tweaking to correct the over-fuelling that resulted from mapping the car with a FUBARed downpipe <sigh>.
So, I'm unlikely to have anything more to report until the end of next week at the earliest I'm afraid.
11 February 2010, 07:52 PM
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What I will show is an extract of how different the turbo performs compare to the standard at the top end .. BUT REMEMBER ... this has now been improved further
solid line is bhp ... dotted torque .. top lines of each the new turbo .. the bottom ones the old turbo
solid line is bhp ... dotted torque .. top lines of each the new turbo .. the bottom ones the old turbo
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11 February 2010, 08:19 PM
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As per the comments above by others .. I really don't think you'll get a much better time to buy one considering the massive advantages for you given the exchange rate at the moment ...