Manchester Congestion Charge !!!
12 December 2008, 12:02 PM
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Well i voted no in the end, even though it would benefit me and my family,
if they got it, you dont know what would have been planned for the future, like more cost or bigger time zones, and businesses need all the help they can get so i changed my mind and voted no.
if they got it, you dont know what would have been planned for the future, like more cost or bigger time zones, and businesses need all the help they can get so i changed my mind and voted no.
Good man.
I looked at the possible benefits but to be honest, i just dont trust anything this good for nothing, cheating, bent goverment do anymore.
12 December 2008, 12:06 PM
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I cant say it would be a totally bad thing as Manchester is rammed most of the time, as has been said, public transport needs to improve and to be an incentive to get people out of there cars anyway, its actually quite liberating breaking your reliance on a car but not possible for everyone granted.
12 December 2008, 12:34 PM
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Another victory for democracy. Well done people.
Did London get a chance to vote for their congestion charge?
I can't remember. Probably not with a trotsky/stasi like red Ken at the wheel.
Did London get a chance to vote for their congestion charge?
I can't remember. Probably not with a trotsky/stasi like red Ken at the wheel.
12 December 2008, 12:41 PM
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Worth bearing in mind that this will come back again and again until people give the "right" answer. And the question will be changed/incentivised to give ensure it happens.
THis will come back , just in a different guise.
THis will come back , just in a different guise.
12 December 2008, 12:42 PM
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12 December 2008, 01:07 PM
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Saw this and wondered what the voting was. Looked at the Beeb site at BBC NEWS | England | Manchester | Voters reject congestion charge and it said it was a 'no' vote but not by how much. Though it gives detailed voter turnouts! Typical Beeb. Even the Sky site didn't give the voting. However go to Road pricing plans face the axe after Manchester rejects congestion scheme - Times Online and " ... Manchester’s proposal for peak-time tolls of up to £5 a day was defeated by a majority of 4 to 1. The scheme was rejected in separate votes in all 10 Greater Manchester boroughs taking part in the vote. Just over a million people voted out of 1.9million balloted in the referendum ... ".
Well done all who voted! Though, like the Irish referendum, it remains to be seen how many times the vote will be taken until the *right* answer is achieved ...
Dave
Well done all who voted! Though, like the Irish referendum, it remains to be seen how many times the vote will be taken until the *right* answer is achieved ...
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12 December 2008, 01:18 PM
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12 December 2008, 02:08 PM
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That's helped a lot of Manchester retailers/restaurants etc. I used to drive over to London fairly regularly for social and shopping visits, but have not bothered once since their congestion charge was introduced. I spend my money in other towns/cities now, so 
12 December 2008, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Telegraph
Geoff Hoon, the transport secretary, was last month accused of trying to bully Manchester into accepting congestion charging by stating that it would not get a penny of the £1.5billion if it voted no.
He said: “There is no plan B. I would not want people to be under any illusion about that.”
Asked if Manchester would get even a small proportion of what it needed if it voted no, Mr Hoon said: “None whatsoever. If the vote is no there will be no central Government funding. The rules are very clear.”
He said: “There is no plan B. I would not want people to be under any illusion about that.”
Asked if Manchester would get even a small proportion of what it needed if it voted no, Mr Hoon said: “None whatsoever. If the vote is no there will be no central Government funding. The rules are very clear.”
12 December 2008, 02:16 PM
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One of my brothers lives in Bow in East London. When i have gone up to visit with another brother he has always picked us up from Paddington in his VW camper van (he's got the flat 4 bit right
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He does this to save us carting our bags across London on the tube and bus.
To get from his place to the station and back he simply skirts around the charging zone adding a few exra miles but avoiding the charge.
Surely if many more people do this it merely causes more probles on non-charging roads which cancels out any alleged benefits of the charged zone.
). He does this to save us carting our bags across London on the tube and bus.
To get from his place to the station and back he simply skirts around the charging zone adding a few exra miles but avoiding the charge.
Surely if many more people do this it merely causes more probles on non-charging roads which cancels out any alleged benefits of the charged zone.
12 December 2008, 02:17 PM
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How much did this whole fiasco cost to the tax-payer? Maybe we should add the equivalent value to the Labour Party's overdraft?
12 December 2008, 02:20 PM
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I really hope that the Irish will reject the Lisbon constitution(for thst is what it really is) with an even bigger majority than before.
A lot of them seem to think it will protect them from the recession though!
Les
A lot of them seem to think it will protect them from the recession though!
Les
12 December 2008, 02:45 PM
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On a broader issue the half wits in 'power' out to be bold enough to give us all a vote - to kick them out.
General Election please Gopher, I mean Grodon
General Election please Gopher, I mean Grodon
12 December 2008, 03:32 PM
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12 December 2008, 05:52 PM
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I don't live in Manchester but have to pass through their sometimes.I would of voted no too,and it's all a total rip off anyway.What is the whole point in having a tax disc displayed in your vehicle,it's proof that you have payed to use the road networks in this country,that was the point of a tax disc.This just reminds me of sky tv,you pay so much a month for sky sports.Then they want to charge you extra when say a famous boxing match is on.And them people saying ohh it won't effect me,it will effect everyone at some point.What about goods vehicles that have to travel into manchester to deliver your food and clothing etc,you will end up paying for it.Or am i totally wrong.
12 December 2008, 09:12 PM
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Thank God for that result. Anything else would have opened the floodgates.
I can just imagine every local council thinking they had discovered a goldmine!
It's happened where i live by charging for parking in an area where the council provided previously free parking for local residents to make the streets safer for the locals as the roads were getting crammed full and children were in danger crossing the road etc.
Net result the once free car park is empty and the cars are all back congesting the roads. You couldn't make it up!
With the economic climate as it is this road crash of a government and its local minions need a serious reality check
I can just imagine every local council thinking they had discovered a goldmine!
It's happened where i live by charging for parking in an area where the council provided previously free parking for local residents to make the streets safer for the locals as the roads were getting crammed full and children were in danger crossing the road etc.
Net result the once free car park is empty and the cars are all back congesting the roads. You couldn't make it up!
With the economic climate as it is this road crash of a government and its local minions need a serious reality check
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