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njkmrs 26 November 2008 12:52 PM

Manchester Congestion Charge !!!
 
Just received my voting pack .
Trying to bribe us into voting for it on the promise of improved service,trams ,buses ,trains etc .


Should they have not been investing in all of these already with the money they have already taken off us over the years ???:wall:

Cheeky bleeders can stick it were the sun dont shine :hjtwofing

Only my opinion of course .......

Timwinner 26 November 2008 12:53 PM

Its a nightmare, I would do anything to get rid of the one down here. Vote NO!!

BurgerKing 26 November 2008 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by njkmrs (Post 8302141)
Just received my voting pack .
Trying to bribe us into voting for it on the promise of improved service,trams ,buses ,trains etc .


Should they have not been investing in all of these already with the money they have already taken off us over the years ???:wall:

Cheeky bleeders can stick it were the sun dont shine :hjtwofing

Only my opinion of course .......

Absolutely, I'll be voting against this (so is the Wife). As mentioned, we should have had many of the improvments anyway as part of investment in the area over the past 10 years or so and I'm sick of the "vote yes" promotional billboards all over the sodding place. My response is :hjtwofing

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 01:28 PM

It wont effect me, as i dont go near the boundary i work and live on the south side, and will benefit from a metrolink route into didsbury.

so im inclined to vote yes !!
sorry

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 01:28 PM

one other thing, i suspect voting against it will be a waste of time.

Jerome 26 November 2008 01:39 PM

If it's anything like the London CC, all it will ultimately be is a revenue generating system.

The price will go up, public transport and services will not improve and, most importantly of all, congestion will eventually be just as bad as it ever was.

Luminous 26 November 2008 01:40 PM

It is important to oppose schemes like this, as if they catch on sooner or later they will affect you.

The last thing I want to see is endless congestion charging zones all over the UK, all of which are locally administered. Which of course means all of us will have to pay in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways just to move from one place to another.

We are at the top of a slippery slope.....

Odds on 26 November 2008 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 8302231)
one other thing, i suspect voting against it will be a waste of time.

A total waste of time!

GC8 26 November 2008 01:49 PM

Havent they threatened to pull the plug on central government unless the people vote yes?

GC8 26 November 2008 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 8302228)
It wont effect me, as i dont go near the boundary i work and live on the south side, and will benefit from a metrolink route into didsbury.

so im inclined to vote yes !!
sorry

I feel sorry for Jacko.

billythekid 26 November 2008 01:56 PM

I will be voting no.

RJM25R 26 November 2008 02:05 PM

Voted no.

As has my wife.
As has my Mum.
As has my sister and husband.
My other sister and her husband.
As has my uncle and auntie, and 3 cousins.
As has my father in law, mother in law, brother in law.
As has every employee at my wifes place, as well as my works, plus
EVERY single person I have spoken to have said they're voting NO.

Wonder how they'll fudge this one?

Snazy 26 November 2008 05:55 PM

Pretty sure its one of those Ken Livingstone "what do you think" consultations, ultimatly meaning we will do what we want, we just wanna see how many people we will piss off in the process.

Messed up how the CC up there is proposed to work too, nightmare. Nasty to say but its a big "up yours" to the people from the area who have scoffed at the London CC for so long though.

speedking 26 November 2008 06:08 PM

We live in Warrington so will be subject to the charge if we visit Manchester, but will not see any of the benefits of the Public Transport improvements.

Mind you we don't get a vote.

I guess the Trafford Centre will see more of our money rather than the city centre shops.

mykp 26 November 2008 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by RJM25R (Post 8302318)
Voted no.

As has my wife.
As has my Mum.
As has my sister and husband.
My other sister and her husband.
As has my uncle and auntie, and 3 cousins.
As has my father in law, mother in law, brother in law.
As has every employee at my wifes place, as well as my works, plus
EVERY single person I have spoken to have said they're voting NO.

Wonder how they'll fudge this one?


Same as everyone I know. However I bet it gets pushed through somehow. :cuckoo:

Tam the bam 26 November 2008 06:14 PM

They tried to put a congestion charge (entrance tax) in Edinburgh a few years ago, The majority voted against it and it was shelved, but they have extended parking charges further out of the city centre to help make more dosh!

billythekid 26 November 2008 06:17 PM

my voting pack arrived tonight.

Must say its not very simple, lots of faffing about and reading, sign the form, detatch that form from the voting card, place my "x" on the voting card, put the voting card and form in an envelope making sure that the bar code is visable via the window, then place that envelope into a second envelope!...

Wonder how many people will get it wrong... god knows how my 89 year old grandmother will get on with it... maybe she will just post them back a rich tea biscuit with a post-it-note attached muttering something about the war..

Then there is the info in the pack - all very "pro" the charge IMHO.

So, my vote is winging its way to them... I reckon it will be 70% NO vs 30% YES.

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by GC8 (Post 8302288)
I feel sorry for Jacko.

he lives in wilmslow,

it wont effect him unless he gets lost on his bike:freak3:

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by speedking (Post 8302871)
We live in Warrington so will be subject to the charge if we visit Manchester, but will not see any of the benefits of the Public Transport improvements.

Mind you we don't get a vote.

I guess the Trafford Centre will see more of our money rather than the city centre shops.

its inside so make sure you go off peak.:lol1:

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 06:47 PM

Well i will be very surprised if it doesnt get through.

GC8 26 November 2008 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 8302954)
he lives in wilmslow,

it wont effect him unless he gets lost on his bike:freak3:

I meant because his best mate is such a bell-end that he will vote for buggering Manchester, if it means that he can get an easier tram ride to work!

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 06:50 PM

well, you yorkshire knobjockey
if you werent to busy growing rhubarb, you would have read that, i dont go into the zone at all to and from work so would you explain to me why i would vote no.

especially as im getting a tram stop at the end of my road

and the charge is only at peak times.

GC8 26 November 2008 06:52 PM

A Lancashire simpleton speaks.

GC8 26 November 2008 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 8302228)
It wont effect me, as i dont go near the boundary i work and live on the south side, and will benefit from a metrolink route into didsbury.

so im inclined to vote yes !!
sorry

Im alright Jack...

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 06:54 PM

so should i vote yes just because you want me to

GC8 26 November 2008 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 8302979)
well, you yorkshire knobjockey
if you werent to busy growing rhubarb, you would have read that, i dont go into the zone at all to and from work so would you explain to me why i would vote no.

especially as im getting a tram stop at the end of my road

and the charge is only at peak times.

You really showed me up there, didnt you? :thumb:

GC8 26 November 2008 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by j4ckos mate (Post 8302993)
so should i vote yes just because you want me to

No, you should vote for what is best, not what suits you best.

j4ckos mate 26 November 2008 06:56 PM

mate, its going to happen

GC8 26 November 2008 06:57 PM

It seems inevitable.

Snazy 26 November 2008 07:03 PM

Whats the old phrase, " its not IF its WHEN"

Manchester, welcome to the congestion charge :(

Watch the improvements to transport and traffic..........never appear :)


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