what to buy, £2000-2500, must be fast!!
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he means the volvo 440 turbo and the 480 turbo 1.7 engine its renault based.
i remember reading many years ago that you cant turn the boost up on them or something like that so its best to stick with the normal 1.4 turbo.
btw the 5 gtturbo is the most fun car ive ever owned only mods were a couple of carb jets an exhaust strapped intercooler a grade colder apark plugs and 16 psi of boost.
could do the 1/4 mile in 14.5 secs
was the exact same acceleration as my mates 2litre 16v red top nova up to 120mph from 30 mph.clio 172's couldnt pull away i really like that car it was a raider i sold it for 1700 5 years ago now your lucky if you can pick them up for under 3k.
the coolant hoses had a habit of bursting due to old age and roasting engine coolant passing through the standart turbo running more boost than standard.
with the amount of things that went wrong on the time of owning one i wouldnt be buying one 5 years later.
the starter motors fail on them cause its hard to start the engine straight away fuel evaporating out the carb due to the hot underbonnet temps.
my mate had a 1.9 205 gti i couldnt see what all the fuss was about... my car put a huge smile on my face end of.the acceleration coming off roundabouts was amazing almost catapult like lol
i remember reading many years ago that you cant turn the boost up on them or something like that so its best to stick with the normal 1.4 turbo.
btw the 5 gtturbo is the most fun car ive ever owned only mods were a couple of carb jets an exhaust strapped intercooler a grade colder apark plugs and 16 psi of boost.
could do the 1/4 mile in 14.5 secs
was the exact same acceleration as my mates 2litre 16v red top nova up to 120mph from 30 mph.clio 172's couldnt pull away i really like that car it was a raider i sold it for 1700 5 years ago now your lucky if you can pick them up for under 3k.
the coolant hoses had a habit of bursting due to old age and roasting engine coolant passing through the standart turbo running more boost than standard.
with the amount of things that went wrong on the time of owning one i wouldnt be buying one 5 years later.
the starter motors fail on them cause its hard to start the engine straight away fuel evaporating out the carb due to the hot underbonnet temps.
my mate had a 1.9 205 gti i couldnt see what all the fuss was about... my car put a huge smile on my face end of.the acceleration coming off roundabouts was amazing almost catapult like lol
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I'd personally go, with the suggestions of MR2 turbo Rev3 (240bhp), or GTI6 (170bhp). Both huge fun, strong and relialbe.
The MR2 can e tweaked easily to 280bhp.
the GTI6 handles really well, loved to revs and a joy to thrash.
I have a 306XSI 16V as a hack (137bhp), and love it, handles really well, done a recent track day in it at Marham and abused it all day long and was not embarrassed at all by cars with 2or3 times the power, and its still going strong.
The MR2 can e tweaked easily to 280bhp.
the GTI6 handles really well, loved to revs and a joy to thrash.
I have a 306XSI 16V as a hack (137bhp), and love it, handles really well, done a recent track day in it at Marham and abused it all day long and was not embarrassed at all by cars with 2or3 times the power, and its still going strong.
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MR2 Turbo.
Reliable, bullet-proof and very rapid.
Had a few of them without any hassle. Bit pricey to fix, but they don't really break that often and take abuse like a ginger step-child
Reliable, bullet-proof and very rapid.
Had a few of them without any hassle. Bit pricey to fix, but they don't really break that often and take abuse like a ginger step-child
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If its a weekend toy don't rule out a Mx5 either, not particularily quick, but when the hood is dropped and the sun in shinning not allot else would put a smile of your face as much.
Strong, reliable, easy to fix,lots of parts available. Classic car insurance.
Strong, reliable, easy to fix,lots of parts available. Classic car insurance.
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how about an audi 2.8 litre V6 quattro?.....solid, great build quality..reliable...fast...and not too bad on the old jungle juice....!?....not to mention a 4wd system that only subaru can dream of?...(Flame suit on...!)
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TOYOTA STARLET GLANZA ( 1.3 litre turbo light though and is like a pocket rocket literally
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best handling/riding/steering car straight out of the box ive owned is the pug 106 gti,the handling and steering are pin sharp,i reckon i could keep up with my impreza and my integra type r up to 80mph,after that you need to be brave because of the short wheelbase,but still a great underrated car
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Fiat Coupe 20v turbo would get my vote.
Once rolling and on full boost there's virtually nothing in the 2 - 2.5k price bracket that performs like them, immensely quick cars for the money.
For a shade over your budget you can pick up a well maintained 300+ bhp example that will embarrass a lot of cars in the performance stakes
Once rolling and on full boost there's virtually nothing in the 2 - 2.5k price bracket that performs like them, immensely quick cars for the money.
For a shade over your budget you can pick up a well maintained 300+ bhp example that will embarrass a lot of cars in the performance stakes
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best handling/riding/steering car straight out of the box ive owned is the pug 106 gti,the handling and steering are pin sharp,i reckon i could keep up with my impreza and my integra type r up to 80mph,after that you need to be brave because of the short wheelbase,but still a great underrated car
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If your looking for something fast and fun, why sell the Impreza?
If its running costs that were a problem then I wouldn't get another forced induction car.
205MI16 and a year trackday pass should do the trick.
If its running costs that were a problem then I wouldn't get another forced induction car.
205MI16 and a year trackday pass should do the trick.
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To be devils advocate.....In trade for 3K for close to 2.5K with a bit of haggling. Without warranty or as a trade purchse almost certainly could be had for 2.5K.
Private sale therefore 2K.
Its bonkers out there in the second hand market. Just bought myself a STI8 from trade (And I never normally buy from trade) as it was the best price nationally, great, example and came with 12months RAC warranty. All niggles, pin dents, scuffs sorted prior to purchase including a new set of front disk due to warping.
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Private sale therefore 2K.
Its bonkers out there in the second hand market. Just bought myself a STI8 from trade (And I never normally buy from trade) as it was the best price nationally, great, example and came with 12months RAC warranty. All niggles, pin dents, scuffs sorted prior to purchase including a new set of front disk due to warping.
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Starlet GT Turbo's for a 1.3 they are awesome! mine sounded like a plane boosting up! easy to mod and good fun as standard! mine had coilovers though so was like a gokart! these can be picked up for cheap these days! i'd still buy another!
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nissan 200sx s14 good cars and rear wheel fun my old 1 was 360bhp and serious fun , maybe a pulsar gtiR or mr2 turbo
i did look @ a mk2 vr6 the other week and its still for sale proper mint runnin 12 secs on budget tyres it was advertised for £2500 i just decided i want a standard mk2 gti for a daily runner though
nissan 200sx s14 good cars and rear wheel fun my old 1 was 360bhp and serious fun , maybe a pulsar gtiR or mr2 turbo
i did look @ a mk2 vr6 the other week and its still for sale proper mint runnin 12 secs on budget tyres it was advertised for £2500 i just decided i want a standard mk2 gti for a daily runner though
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best handling/riding/steering car straight out of the box ive owned is the pug 106 gti,the handling and steering are pin sharp,i reckon i could keep up with my impreza and my integra type r up to 80mph,after that you need to be brave because of the short wheelbase,but still a great underrated car
I had a similarish Saxo VTR for 18 months and it was an absolute hoot to drive. Shame it halved in value in those 18 months!!
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A 3ltr M3 can be got for £2500 but it won't be a good one and they do cost a bit to run.
Cheap running toy= hot pug 205 or 306 as they don't rust like old Fords and are lighter than most other makes.
A work mate has a G40 Polo which is a giggle when/if it works.....
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I REALLY struggled to shake on of these in my R32 (with over twice the bhp) once on a twisty section - the driver was clearly very good (middle aged - experienced I guess?!) but it was embarrassing.
I had a similarish Saxo VTR for 18 months and it was an absolute hoot to drive. Shame it halved in value in those 18 months!!
I had a similarish Saxo VTR for 18 months and it was an absolute hoot to drive. Shame it halved in value in those 18 months!!
I was showing it to a friend (who went straight out and bought one) on the back roads near where I live when an evo 9 thought he'd join in the fun. While I can't say I blew him away, especially on the straights, we did manange to pull out a good lead on him and eventually he dropped out of site.
Oh yes, and I sold it 6 months later for the same amount when someone asked me if I'd consider selling it.