Clive,

Really sorry I could not make your party, was all ready to travel with Hotel booked the works but then had something dropped on me at work that meant there was no chance of getting out early Friday to make it at a reasonable time. Gutted !

Still hope it went well old fella

Clive

 

oh happy belated birthday Clive.

Graph is looking good

Actually its pretty amazing for a 30r

 

Fatboy : my poor Mrs didn't know what way to turn mate. SleeperSy & Daz Davies where doing some behind the scenes assistance for her and she probably got confused John.
At first she had booked 20 rooms at a local hotel then was not sure of who was coming, she then gave Daz the wrong post code on all the invites etc etc.
Nothing to do with the quality threshold lmao!
The funniest bit was when she sent 20 emails to herself, pmsl bless her.

Stu: Thanx mate. I did finish this thread but I thought it would be good just to put up the final dyno graph


Madhammer: No worries mate. I do realise that you would have attended if you could Clive.
Although the surprise party was fantastic it would not have been the same for me if no scooby mates had turned up, however a few did and that made my great night complete.

Fai: Thanks mate. I too was surprised to achieve nearly 562Bhp. Great results from a medium turbo and better than I expected.
Deep down I was only expecting 530 - 540.
I am really happy with those results as the car is still very drivable with the turbo I currently have.
I know we could achieve a lot more by changing to a larger turbo but the driving quality will drop for everyday driving.

I think the 561.9 running a 30R suggests the quality of the engine build.

 

No worries Hugh and thanks.

I was still up for attending Brands but by the time I got my head down it was really late.
Next time

 

agree clive, if i wernt going the 2.3 route i would have the 2.0 for sure, rcm do a cracking engine build, as with everything else they do.

 

Good RR result, makes the 1/4 mile figure and buying those burgers more fun

 

I don't think so! I prefer the 35r on a .63 as compared with a 3076r on a .82 housing. The 35r makes better power and pulls from earlier

 

Not on a 2.0L it wouldn't!!

A 35R on the 2.0L would ruin the driveability of this car. As it is, Clive's car is near perfect for a fast road/track car. Don't try and fix what isn't broken.

Clive knows full well to save the big turbo for P2.

 

But if spool is earlier on my car as compared with a gt30 it has to be earlier on a 2ltr as my setup on each turbo has never changed.

 

A GT35R will NOT spool quicker on a 2.0L than a GT30 would no matter which way you try and put it Unless of course the 30R is on a 1.06 housing and the 35R on a 0.63.

Don't forget your 2.5 has totally different charachertistics to Clive's 2.0L

 

remember I'm comparing a gt30r with .82 housing to a gt35r with .63 housing. If it spools quicker on a 2.5ltr it will be the same on a 2ltr all things being equal as my car was ! Just because its a 2ltr its doesn't make the ending result any different appart from spool being a little later as compared with a 2.5r engine on either turbo

 

Steve don't forget I went in your car when it was in 2.0L GT30R form. I've also been in Clive's and I can tell you for certain that Clive's car spools up a hell of a lot quicker than yours did. I honestly think if you were to put a GT35R on Clive's car it would ruin its "crispness" and for the small extra gain a 0.63 GT35R would make in top end power I dont think it would be worth the trade off in response.

 

Daz at the time mine was only making 486bhp and running 1.7 bar, its a mile away from my current spec and gt35r, but when both turbos were running similar power the 35r spooled earlier.

 

If it helps fella's I was talking to Dave Rowe this week whilst he was doing the dyno and I asked him about swapping turbos with a 35R. He told me that it would spool at around 5300 whereby my current turbo spools bang on 4 grand.
It's still pulling like a train at 8 grand.


Daz: You will notice a big difference in the P1 next time mate. With a certain bracket mounted different and the 20% meths it's a whole lot quicker.

It's running exactly 87.6 Bhp more than the Snetteron laps we done!

 

I wouldn't mind mine mapped on 20% meths now

 

I understand those that don't like using it if they are using a car regularly/daily and carrying around cans of Meth is a hassle. But it's much cheaper than unleaded so a no brainer imo, same goes for E85 if there are pumps near you.

Too many people are always going on about power achieved on just V Power etc ! Well good for you ! The same people will spend thousands on bigger turbos, fancy heads etc etc and then have a pop at those using differing fuels, really makes me smile Well I am happy with my circ 10% extra power with using a little Meth, who's the one laughing really

 

How about, fancy heads, cams a big turbo and 20% meths?

That's my plan atleast.

 

Would agree with that MH.

Using 20% Meths must be the ONLY way to gain power & at the same time save money. As we all know, more power usually means more money!.

I have bought 4 decent 20Ltr Jerry cans, measure & pour out 4 Ltrs of Meths in each then go & fill them with 16 Ltrs of V Power.
(Some garages only let you fill up 2 Jerry cans which apparently is law?)
Just play deaf while they are shouting over the mike.

Steve, if you decide to go 20% buy the Meths from here

Jennychem Store

210 Ltr Drum (45 gallones) £ 140.00 sov's inc a dispenser & received mine within 2 days.

Put the drum out the way next to the bonfire. Job done.

 

Forget the big power and fuels just take more driving lessonsOr like me loose 100 kilos and ill still be 15 stone

 

You on a diet then FUD ?

 

Loose 100 kilos I'm only 73 kilo's as it is

 

Skinny runt

 

I haven't been eating all the pies like some other have Are you still going on saturday ???

 

Yes mate I am. Although I shan't be drinking as I am on a new baby curfew

 

Soz FB, I forgot to send them to you - my fault.

My solution is why not use a GT42 with 2 nos nozels in the exhaust housing

 

Here here, couldn't have put it better myself

And to all the "Ah, but what does it make on VPower brigade"

 

LOL No worries, Sy - very decent of you to own up rather than letting Heather take the blame. In fact, I'm not really sure this can really be you posting

Hope the turbonators are handling the cold snap Ok and like your thinking on Nos-ing the hot side

 

Martyn,

Forgive me for being a little up front about this but from a tuner that's a proper sh*t attitude. Not everyone wants to have the hassle of pissing about with methanol and then having to mix it, or having to travel for miles out of their way to get some E85.

You make these power claims then dont state what fuel it's on and people will expect to get the same ball park figures from V Power. So I think the question of what is does on V power is highly relevant.

If you make these bold power achieved statements then you also need to make it clear what fuel that power was made from. This will then not mislead people to think they can just get the same results.

I'm all for the use of additves, mixtures and E85 and shall be using a 20% meth mix in mine but please don't mislead people by making these bold power claims and then not inform people that the results were acheived on £7+ per litre race fuel etc.

Some people just like to know what is acheiveable with V power on a certain set up as they will hope to replicate that. A tuner "giving those people the finger" so to speak isnt exactly what I'd call professional behaviour.

 

OH FFS Daz, I couldn't have made it any more tongue in cheek if I had tried.

 

Lost in translation I guess but I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from??