F***** police arghhhhhhhhhh
The trouble is that even when you're in the right and have independent witnesses the legal justice system in this country still doesn't work.
About 11 years ago I got road raged by some nutter who stopped his car in the fast lane of a dual carriageway and then punched me through my window for NO reason; the car was in gear and in surprise my foot came off the clutch and the car jumped into the slow lane hitting another vehicle. Luckily nobody was hurt - the guy who punched me looked like he was on something pretty mind bending and I'd done nothing wrong to provoke him - he then jumped in his car and made off. The idiot had a personalised number plate though, which I supplied to police.
I had 6 witnesses, including a driving instructor who said they saw him acting in a menacing fashion, although nobody actually saw him hit me (supposedly). Even with this, and the fact that he'd fled the scene of an assault and subsequent accident, the HM representative failed to get a conviction and he got let off.
The police have their hands tied with stupid Labour targets which bear no resemblance to issues which the public want the police to address, and the legal representation is so laughable I'd have been better representing myself. My advice - do it, but either get yourself a good defence OR prepare WELL! But I'd do the same - don't let these b*stards get away with it.
About 11 years ago I got road raged by some nutter who stopped his car in the fast lane of a dual carriageway and then punched me through my window for NO reason; the car was in gear and in surprise my foot came off the clutch and the car jumped into the slow lane hitting another vehicle. Luckily nobody was hurt - the guy who punched me looked like he was on something pretty mind bending and I'd done nothing wrong to provoke him - he then jumped in his car and made off. The idiot had a personalised number plate though, which I supplied to police.
I had 6 witnesses, including a driving instructor who said they saw him acting in a menacing fashion, although nobody actually saw him hit me (supposedly). Even with this, and the fact that he'd fled the scene of an assault and subsequent accident, the HM representative failed to get a conviction and he got let off.
The police have their hands tied with stupid Labour targets which bear no resemblance to issues which the public want the police to address, and the legal representation is so laughable I'd have been better representing myself. My advice - do it, but either get yourself a good defence OR prepare WELL! But I'd do the same - don't let these b*stards get away with it.
no wonder this country is going to pot mushe enough said
...just in case You don't get me, I totally don't subscribe to the idea of abusing anybody on national TV its just wrong whoever it is.
Racism is a very complicated subject and isn't easy to deal with and certainly not for a car forum to go into, I think the subject should just go back to the original post. sorry if I helped to deviate it.
The trouble is that even when you're in the right and have independent witnesses the legal justice system in this country still doesn't work.
About 11 years ago I got road raged by some nutter who stopped his car in the fast lane of a dual carriageway and then punched me through my window for NO reason; the car was in gear and in surprise my foot came off the clutch and the car jumped into the slow lane hitting another vehicle. Luckily nobody was hurt - the guy who punched me looked like he was on something pretty mind bending and I'd done nothing wrong to provoke him - he then jumped in his car and made off. The idiot had a personalised number plate though, which I supplied to police.
I had 6 witnesses, including a driving instructor who said they saw him acting in a menacing fashion, although nobody actually saw him hit me (supposedly). Even with this, and the fact that he'd fled the scene of an assault and subsequent accident, the HM representative failed to get a conviction and he got let off.
The police have their hands tied with stupid Labour targets which bear no resemblance to issues which the public want the police to address, and the legal representation is so laughable I'd have been better representing myself. My advice - do it, but either get yourself a good defence OR prepare WELL! But I'd do the same - don't let these b*stards get away with it.
About 11 years ago I got road raged by some nutter who stopped his car in the fast lane of a dual carriageway and then punched me through my window for NO reason; the car was in gear and in surprise my foot came off the clutch and the car jumped into the slow lane hitting another vehicle. Luckily nobody was hurt - the guy who punched me looked like he was on something pretty mind bending and I'd done nothing wrong to provoke him - he then jumped in his car and made off. The idiot had a personalised number plate though, which I supplied to police.
I had 6 witnesses, including a driving instructor who said they saw him acting in a menacing fashion, although nobody actually saw him hit me (supposedly). Even with this, and the fact that he'd fled the scene of an assault and subsequent accident, the HM representative failed to get a conviction and he got let off.
The police have their hands tied with stupid Labour targets which bear no resemblance to issues which the public want the police to address, and the legal representation is so laughable I'd have been better representing myself. My advice - do it, but either get yourself a good defence OR prepare WELL! But I'd do the same - don't let these b*stards get away with it.
Your gripe is with the CPS. They make the decision whether or not to prosecute.
The situation today is far worse. CPS have to make decision to charge on any offence which is not admitted (Simple motoring offences are not included). NL set them targets too. They too have to go for easy targets to show they are performing.
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Having read and laughed at this post I feel that a few things need to be put right.
1. It is very unfair to start name calling - pig F****** etc and suggesting that Officers are all bent and out to get a conviction for performance figures - absolute rubbish!
Yes there are good and bad in all occupations and we all accept that but come on.
There are Police officers, including me, who subscribe to this forum and other and are heavily into the Subaru scene. I may, in your opinion, be unethical and bent, well let me tell you, if you met me you may actually think I'm an allright guy.
And guess what - there is more to Police work than traffic. It never has and never will be my scene. There is a place for it and if an Officer chooses that path then so be it. Personally it wasnt for me. I can appreciate that people get upset when they are stopped etc - everyone I know has a story to tell, including myself believe it or not!
Someone has said on here that the Police will do anything to get a conviction. The Police do not convict - the CPS and the courts convict. The Police gather the evidence and then take it to the CPS who make a decision - for crime matters anyway. If there is no realistic prospect of conviction the CPS will not proceed.
Also the Police do not WORK for the CPS.
Everyone has the right to a fair trial and if you feel the need to fight your corner in a courtroom then that's fine. I would do the same if I genuinely believed that I was innocent. But the Magistrates and the Police do not collude. In my experience the odds are stacked against the Police at court purely because we have to have covered every eventuality to get a job to court.
I pay tax and national insurance like everybody else which means that I therefore pay for my own wages because apparently you lot pay my wages. Well I must be doing the same then?
I could go on but whats the point.
I am not meaning to be personal to anyone on here at all. Everyone has their own opinion, but please do not tar everyone with the same brush. It's not appropriate to say on here what my area of Policing is but maybe if you knew you might actually see that I am doing a worthwhile job and helping people. There is more to life that Traffic Police!
But let me tell you - I actually DO catch criminals. I WILL go out of my way to gather the evidence ethically and within the law and to see that people are brought to task where appropriate and many people do respect what I do for them. The problem is people dont get to know that so consequently all we do is write out fixed penalty tickets according to you lot.
With respect, the majority of you who have posted on this thread, and many others about the same subject really have no idea what you are talking about and all it becomes is a breeding ground for more and more abuse.
I will await the next round of abuse and will take it all with a pinch of salt
thanks for reading.
Having read and laughed at this post I feel that a few things need to be put right.
1. It is very unfair to start name calling - pig F****** etc and suggesting that Officers are all bent and out to get a conviction for performance figures - absolute rubbish!
Yes there are good and bad in all occupations and we all accept that but come on.
There are Police officers, including me, who subscribe to this forum and other and are heavily into the Subaru scene. I may, in your opinion, be unethical and bent, well let me tell you, if you met me you may actually think I'm an allright guy.
And guess what - there is more to Police work than traffic. It never has and never will be my scene. There is a place for it and if an Officer chooses that path then so be it. Personally it wasnt for me. I can appreciate that people get upset when they are stopped etc - everyone I know has a story to tell, including myself believe it or not!
Someone has said on here that the Police will do anything to get a conviction. The Police do not convict - the CPS and the courts convict. The Police gather the evidence and then take it to the CPS who make a decision - for crime matters anyway. If there is no realistic prospect of conviction the CPS will not proceed.
Also the Police do not WORK for the CPS.
Everyone has the right to a fair trial and if you feel the need to fight your corner in a courtroom then that's fine. I would do the same if I genuinely believed that I was innocent. But the Magistrates and the Police do not collude. In my experience the odds are stacked against the Police at court purely because we have to have covered every eventuality to get a job to court.
I pay tax and national insurance like everybody else which means that I therefore pay for my own wages because apparently you lot pay my wages. Well I must be doing the same then?
I could go on but whats the point.
I am not meaning to be personal to anyone on here at all. Everyone has their own opinion, but please do not tar everyone with the same brush. It's not appropriate to say on here what my area of Policing is but maybe if you knew you might actually see that I am doing a worthwhile job and helping people. There is more to life that Traffic Police!
But let me tell you - I actually DO catch criminals. I WILL go out of my way to gather the evidence ethically and within the law and to see that people are brought to task where appropriate and many people do respect what I do for them. The problem is people dont get to know that so consequently all we do is write out fixed penalty tickets according to you lot.
With respect, the majority of you who have posted on this thread, and many others about the same subject really have no idea what you are talking about and all it becomes is a breeding ground for more and more abuse.
I will await the next round of abuse and will take it all with a pinch of salt
thanks for reading.
even your reply is written "copperish" , patronising and talking down to us lesser folk.....
why do a majority of us have no idea wat we are talking about???
the pages and pages of replys suggest different...
I have to agree your gripe. I have a good mate who i used to play footbal with and he is a traffic cop. Two police tried to falsley imply i jumped a RED light about 8 years ago. My mate told me to gather all my evidence, photo's, location, weather, traffic flow etc.. and present it confidently in court. I did all of this and with the photo's proved that the police were lying. They were actually behind a huge hedge that prevented there view of the traffic lights. But these pair of idiots are really a very small majority and i believe that the majority of police do, try to do a good job. But as in anything there are always tossers who think they can do most of what they like. Get all your stuff together, be sensible and fight it.
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The trouble is that even when you're in the right and have independent witnesses the legal justice system in this country still doesn't work.
About 11 years ago I got road raged by some nutter who stopped his car in the fast lane of a dual carriageway and then punched me through my window for NO reason; the car was in gear and in surprise my foot came off the clutch and the car jumped into the slow lane hitting another vehicle. Luckily nobody was hurt - the guy who punched me looked like he was on something pretty mind bending and I'd done nothing wrong to provoke him - he then jumped in his car and made off. The idiot had a personalised number plate though, which I supplied to police.
I had 6 witnesses, including a driving instructor who said they saw him acting in a menacing fashion, although nobody actually saw him hit me (supposedly). Even with this, and the fact that he'd fled the scene of an assault and subsequent accident, the HM representative failed to get a conviction and he got let off.
The police have their hands tied with stupid Labour targets which bear no resemblance to issues which the public want the police to address, and the legal representation is so laughable I'd have been better representing myself. My advice - do it, but either get yourself a good defence OR prepare WELL! But I'd do the same - don't let these b*stards get away with it.
About 11 years ago I got road raged by some nutter who stopped his car in the fast lane of a dual carriageway and then punched me through my window for NO reason; the car was in gear and in surprise my foot came off the clutch and the car jumped into the slow lane hitting another vehicle. Luckily nobody was hurt - the guy who punched me looked like he was on something pretty mind bending and I'd done nothing wrong to provoke him - he then jumped in his car and made off. The idiot had a personalised number plate though, which I supplied to police.
I had 6 witnesses, including a driving instructor who said they saw him acting in a menacing fashion, although nobody actually saw him hit me (supposedly). Even with this, and the fact that he'd fled the scene of an assault and subsequent accident, the HM representative failed to get a conviction and he got let off.
The police have their hands tied with stupid Labour targets which bear no resemblance to issues which the public want the police to address, and the legal representation is so laughable I'd have been better representing myself. My advice - do it, but either get yourself a good defence OR prepare WELL! But I'd do the same - don't let these b*stards get away with it.
I called the cops and whilst on the phone directed them to this POS
Police came and arrested him, i witnessed him kick in the side of a VW Polo + try to pull someone out of a stationary car (in traffic). and threaten and intimidate women and children I had my 6 month old child in the car although was sorely tempted to smack his head into a shop window and put him out of his misery.
It took 3 cops to subdue him
Police took witness statements from me and my other half and i said i was happy to go to court if required.
CPS decided not to procecute - go figure!
Apparently he had just got his dole money, found out his ex was pregnant with his child, got hamered then went on the rampage
Last edited by The Zohan; Sep 13, 2008 at 10:57 AM.
be carefull mate you'll probably get ten years for intent to endanger human life 
PMSL - please don't start with this! If the person who did it was white, male and was employed rather than on benefits you'd be more likely to get ten years! In case you haven't read the press apparently everyone in the UK now has rights except us! 
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