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Old 09 August 2008, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nerocircus

Here's another one for you:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
This conundrum is based upon the three meanings of buffalo. Buffalo the American city, buffalo the American bison and buffalo the verb meaning to intimidate or bully.


It translates as: "bison from the city of Buffalo whom bully bison from the city of Buffalo bully other bison from the city of Buffalo".

It just goes to prove that proper grammar can sometimes obfuscate the issue
even more than text speak.

It's difficult to make sense of the sentence construction because modern English tends to put the various component words of the sentence in different places than was usual some years ago, so that when certain words implied by the grammar are omitted, the sense of the thing falls apart. It doesn't help that there's a circular argument in there, too.
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Blimey!
Old 09 August 2008, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
It doesn't help that there's a circular argument in there, too.
Billy, would you not think the argument within, is more oval than circular? Or are you merely suggesting that as you can technically circle an oval, it makes no fecking odds?
Old 09 August 2008, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
This conundrum is based upon the three meanings of buffalo. Buffalo the American city, buffalo the American bison and buffalo the verb meaning to intimidate or bully.


It translates as: "bison from the city of Buffalo whom bully bison from the city of Buffalo bully other bison from the city of Buffalo".

It just goes to prove that proper grammar can sometimes obfuscate the issue
even more than text speak.

It's difficult to make sense of the sentence construction because modern English tends to put the various component words of the sentence in different places than was usual some years ago, so that when certain words implied by the grammar are omitted, the sense of the thing falls apart. It doesn't help that there's a circular argument in there, too.
Nice one Bubba

That was taking it to extremes, but your point remains valid. There is a website which campaigns for 'clear english', that is, English which is grammatically correct but without going to the extremes of becoming just as confusing as poor English.

Plain English Campaign | Homepage

I must say, I agree in parts with the principal of it, but it'd be a shame to 'level out' some of the nuances which make the language what it is. I'm definitely more a supporter of prescriptive grammar than descriptive grammar.
Old 09 August 2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Billy, would you not think the argument within, is more oval than circular? Or are you merely suggesting that as you can technically circle an oval, it makes no fecking odds?
In terms of geometry, a circle is just a special case of an ellipse.
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Originally Posted by BOB.T
That bloody Mr Sheen!

Or did you mean Polish?

They don't deserve a capital letter imho
Old 09 August 2008, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
In terms of geometry, a circle is just a special case of an ellipse.
In its axiomatic form.

So there we have it, a circle could have its own geometry Olympics.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
In terms of geometry, a circle is just a special case of an ellipse.
Like a square is an oblong, but an oblong is not a square. Also, a circle is can be constructed from an infinite number of infinitely short straight lines.
Old 09 August 2008, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ChunkyDunky
Like a square is an oblong, but an oblong is not a square. Also, a circle is can be constructed from an infinite number of infinitely short straight lines.
You really need to make sense first.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
You really need to make sense first.
Oh bottom
Old 09 August 2008, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
In its axiomatic form.

So there we have it, a circle could have its own geometry Olympics.

The parallelogramolympics?
Old 09 August 2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ChunkyDunky
Oh bottom


Originally Posted by Bubba po
The parallelogramolympics?
For quadrilateralegic athletes
Old 10 August 2008, 08:08 PM
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The board of education would not go far wrong adopting teaching methods that are applied in the EU.
There is something very wrong when foreigners have a better grasp of the English language than people born here.
Perhaps society is to blame, people outside the UK are not hearing slang words, text speak etc so their use of English language is purer.
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