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Old 28 February 2008, 04:31 PM
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Still got the following:

and the CDTV.

Been also looking on E-bay and noticed a couple of A4000's going. One is up for £1200!

you can have mine for £800

Still got several A1200's, An A4000D, a CD32 and an AmigaOne!
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Originally Posted by jowl
you can have mine for £800

Still got several A1200's, An A4000D, a CD32 and an AmigaOne!


Out of a matter of interest. Does the A4000 do the same as the A1200? In other words whats the games compatability like? As I'm tempted to get hold of a A4000 system.
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I had both a Spectrum and a C64, I did a lot of paper rounds, morning, evening, Pink Final and any that the others didnt bother turning up for, milked the Christmas tips by turning up on the doorstep p1ss wet through with a cheap card to tug the heartstrings so I could feed my habit !

Its the character of the things, the C64 and Spectrum had different characters, both equally enjoyable, the C64 was more impressive but I couldnt really call it.

Special mention for the BBC Micro, next door had one with twin disc drives, his uncle was a real geek who brought loads of interesting stuff on disk round, happy days spent on Elite, Frak and Some Scramble thing and a Manic Miner copy thats name escapes me.

Also the Atari VCS 2600, how great was that, the games were usually good to play but **** to look at, the packaging was so compelling though, the cover art magnificent.

I used to read Personal Computer weekly, thats what got me further into the whole thing, it was a weekly on grotty bog paper but so informative and it had strange adverts on the back every week by a company called AutoMata, for games called Pimania and Groucho which I never ever played but lovved the ads !



The best bit about the 80's computer boom, even second to the box art was the catalogues, the time I would spend pouring over a Lasky's catalogue marvelling at the strange and massively expensive exotic add ons like thermal printers, modems and track *****, the obviously loaded but happy people in the ads doing all manner of cool stuff.

I remember getting my C64, £189.99 from Rumbelows in Bramhall, a tenner cheaper but actually sod all use without a Tape Player, I bought one months later via mail order, not the official one but a compatiable, allow 28 days for delivery, imagine a 12 year old getting up every morning for 3 months to see if it had arrived only to be dissapointed, games waiting to be played but no tape, it arrived ages later after threatening letters. Also, the only telly I had at the time was a 10 inch Ferguson Black and White.

Best memories, getting Monty Mole and Lazy Jones from the Stockport Woolies for the C64, sending Anthony Crowther (Loco, Suicide Express, Blagger etc) a letter and getting a personal and quite long reply ! Christmas day playing the Empire Strikes Back on the Atari 2600. Mercenary on the C64, no in game music so used to used the Human League Love and Dancing instrumental which suited it perfectly.

Amiga next, what a jaw dropping and amazing machine that was back then, Indy 500, F1GP and all those fantastic demos and cracked games, Jesus on E's anyone ?
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I had both a Spectrum and a C64, I did a lot of paper rounds, morning, evening, Pink Final and any that the others didnt bother turning up for, milked the Christmas tips by turning up on the doorstep p1ss wet through with a cheap card to tug the heartstrings so I could feed my habit !

Its the character of the things, the C64 and Spectrum had different characters, both equally enjoyable, the C64 was more impressive but I couldnt really call it.

Special mention for the BBC Micro, next door had one with twin disc drives, his uncle was a real geek who brought loads of interesting stuff on disk round, happy days spent on Elite, Frak and Some Scramble thing and a Manic Miner copy thats name escapes me.

Also the Atari VCS 2600, how great was that, the games were usually good to play but **** to look at, the packaging was so compelling though, the cover art magnificent.

I used to read Personal Computer weekly, thats what got me further into the whole thing, it was a weekly on grotty bog paper but so informative and it had strange adverts on the back every week by a company called AutoMata, for games called Pimania and Groucho which I never ever played but lovved the ads !



The best bit about the 80's computer boom, even second to the box art was the catalogues, the time I would spend pouring over a Lasky's catalogue marvelling at the strange and massively expensive exotic add ons like thermal printers, modems and track *****, the obviously loaded but happy people in the ads doing all manner of cool stuff.

I remember getting my C64, £189.99 from Rumbelows in Bramhall, a tenner cheaper but actually sod all use without a Tape Player, I bought one months later via mail order, not the official one but a compatiable, allow 28 days for delivery, imagine a 12 year old getting up every morning for 3 months to see if it had arrived only to be dissapointed, games waiting to be played but no tape, it arrived ages later after threatening letters. Also, the only telly I had at the time was a 10 inch Ferguson Black and White.

Best memories, getting Monty Mole and Lazy Jones from the Stockport Woolies for the C64, sending Anthony Crowther (Loco, Suicide Express, Blagger etc) a letter and getting a personal and quite long reply ! Christmas day playing the Empire Strikes Back on the Atari 2600. Mercenary on the C64, no in game music so used to used the Human League Love and Dancing instrumental which suited it perfectly.

Amiga next, what a jaw dropping and amazing machine that was back then, Indy 500, F1GP and all those fantastic demos and cracked games, Jesus on E's anyone ?
good stuff!
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Yep great memories there J4cko, it was an exciting time I think as there was real innovation, now it just seems variations on an existing theme, hardware gets better and cheaper and software wise if you have a successful title its done to death with better graphics and more levels say but without necessarily improving the game play.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I had both a Spectrum and a C64, I did a lot of paper rounds, morning, evening, Pink Final and any that the others didnt bother turning up for, milked the Christmas tips by turning up on the doorstep p1ss wet through with a cheap card to tug the heartstrings so I could feed my habit !

Its the character of the things, the C64 and Spectrum had different characters, both equally enjoyable, the C64 was more impressive but I couldnt really call it.

Special mention for the BBC Micro, next door had one with twin disc drives, his uncle was a real geek who brought loads of interesting stuff on disk round, happy days spent on Elite, Frak and Some Scramble thing and a Manic Miner copy thats name escapes me.

Also the Atari VCS 2600, how great was that, the games were usually good to play but **** to look at, the packaging was so compelling though, the cover art magnificent.

I used to read Personal Computer weekly, thats what got me further into the whole thing, it was a weekly on grotty bog paper but so informative and it had strange adverts on the back every week by a company called AutoMata, for games called Pimania and Groucho which I never ever played but lovved the ads !



The best bit about the 80's computer boom, even second to the box art was the catalogues, the time I would spend pouring over a Lasky's catalogue marvelling at the strange and massively expensive exotic add ons like thermal printers, modems and track *****, the obviously loaded but happy people in the ads doing all manner of cool stuff.

I remember getting my C64, £189.99 from Rumbelows in Bramhall, a tenner cheaper but actually sod all use without a Tape Player, I bought one months later via mail order, not the official one but a compatiable, allow 28 days for delivery, imagine a 12 year old getting up every morning for 3 months to see if it had arrived only to be dissapointed, games waiting to be played but no tape, it arrived ages later after threatening letters. Also, the only telly I had at the time was a 10 inch Ferguson Black and White.

Best memories, getting Monty Mole and Lazy Jones from the Stockport Woolies for the C64, sending Anthony Crowther (Loco, Suicide Express, Blagger etc) a letter and getting a personal and quite long reply ! Christmas day playing the Empire Strikes Back on the Atari 2600. Mercenary on the C64, no in game music so used to used the Human League Love and Dancing instrumental which suited it perfectly.

Amiga next, what a jaw dropping and amazing machine that was back then, Indy 500, F1GP and all those fantastic demos and cracked games, Jesus on E's anyone ?

Takes me back

Rumbelows! a name I havn't heared in a long time. Didn't they go under due to selling PC's badged as having INTEL CPUs in them, yet they were the cheaper AMD ones inside?


I remeber those 'Popular computer weekly' magazines, and those wierd adverts too. It was due to that magazine that you found out about the different home computers that were available. And thanks to that magazine I learnt more about programming. Unfortunatley I had a mad moment and gave them all away to a work colleague who collected old computers.
Old 29 February 2008, 11:35 AM
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lol, my c64 also came from Rumbelows to along with the commodore tape deck.

sure it cost a chunk more than £190 though.
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Originally Posted by Steve Perriam
lol, my c64 also came from Rumbelows to along with the commodore tape deck.

sure it cost a chunk more than £190 though.
Yes, probably got yours way before me, back then £189.99 took some saving up, I jumped at the chance of getting one at a tenner off the list price !
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Not sure if I have C64 or Spectrum but I know I deffo have one of them.
I recently moved home and forund in the loft a box of goodies which includes the above and the original Psion Organiser with 16k extra memory lol
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'Jesus on E's' says commodore is the best of the two!
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Scramble type game was probably Rocket Raid on the bbc
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Originally Posted by andys
Scramble type game was probably Rocket Raid on the bbc
Yep, thats it, was great, trouble is with the BBC that the speaker was intergral and very loud and shrill, I cant remember being able to find a volume control.

It went like this

C64 - Wouldnt be seen dead with a Spectrum, proper game fiends (apart from me), little interest in programming,

Spectrum - Similar to C64 owners but a bit gimpier with parents with less money, went on about how much better the 'Speccy' was to program than the C64 but had never done any. The attitude of Spectrum owners to C64 owners was much like the way Man City fans view Man United fans.

BBC B - Loaded and/or misguided Parents, possibly very spoilt child, Played Elite 23 hours a day, now lives in a bedsit being a burden on/dissapointment to his aging parents plays World of Warcraft 23 hours a day.

Electron - Kid with Parents who thought education was very important and kid had no say in the purchase, basically a BBC B without the Kudos of costing £399 or benefit of running any games.

Dragon 32/Oric - Odd child, no mates as no one to swap games with, usually very fat, good at programming as there werent many games to distract them, they now are in IT and try to recreate the feeling of isolation they had a as a kid by running obscure Linux distros.

Amstrad - Err, apparently pretty good but nobody I knew had one. Seemed to be popular.

Apple IIe - Kid who made a lot banners for no good reason, now has a pony tail and a Saab Cabrio

ZX81 - Kids who bought it thinking it could actually do something and wished they had bought an Atari instead.
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Chuckie Egg

Used to love playing that

Now just been playing online

Chuckie Egg - BBC Remake
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A few more online games

Flash Manic Miner remake - darnkitty.com

Jet Set ***** in Java

Play Java Digger

Play Dig Dug online. FREE! Brought to you by Triplets and Us

Now this has to be the best website

1980 games - free online video game remakes in flash
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Yep, thats it, was great, trouble is with the BBC that the speaker was intergral and very loud and shrill, I cant remember being able to find a volume control.

It went like this

C64 - Wouldnt be seen dead with a Spectrum, proper game fiends (apart from me), little interest in programming,

Spectrum - Similar to C64 owners but a bit gimpier with parents with less money, went on about how much better the 'Speccy' was to program than the C64 but had never done any. The attitude of Spectrum owners to C64 owners was much like the way Man City fans view Man United fans.

BBC B - Loaded and/or misguided Parents, possibly very spoilt child, Played Elite 23 hours a day, now lives in a bedsit being a burden on/dissapointment to his aging parents plays World of Warcraft 23 hours a day.

Electron - Kid with Parents who thought education was very important and kid had no say in the purchase, basically a BBC B without the Kudos of costing £399 or benefit of running any games.

Dragon 32/Oric - Odd child, no mates as no one to swap games with, usually very fat, good at programming as there werent many games to distract them, they now are in IT and try to recreate the feeling of isolation they had a as a kid by running obscure Linux distros.

Amstrad - Err, apparently pretty good but nobody I knew had one. Seemed to be popular.

Apple IIe - Kid who made a lot banners for no good reason, now has a pony tail and a Saab Cabrio

ZX81 - Kids who bought it thinking it could actually do something and wished they had bought an Atari instead.
quality!
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Nice Find there!
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Originally Posted by jpor


Out of a matter of interest. Does the A4000 do the same as the A1200? In other words whats the games compatability like? As I'm tempted to get hold of a A4000 system.
Yes, the A4000 has an AGA chipset just like the A1200.

The trouble I found is that it's harder/more expensive to get an accelerator, and in particular, add memory easily. Or it was last time I look at it.

Nice machine though, easy to add HDD and Optical drive. And a Graphics card, network card.

Only problem is mine and I believe is a fairly common fault is that the internal battery has leaked. All it means is that my clock doesn't keep time and has to be updated from internet/Manually.
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Originally Posted by jowl
Yes, the A4000 has an AGA chipset just like the A1200.

The trouble I found is that it's harder/more expensive to get an accelerator, and in particular, add memory easily. Or it was last time I look at it.

Nice machine though, easy to add HDD and Optical drive. And a Graphics card, network card.

Only problem is mine and I believe is a fairly common fault is that the internal battery has leaked. All it means is that my clock doesn't keep time and has to be updated from internet/Manually.
Noticed on the e-bay that you can get hold of the infamous A4000T that doesn't suffer from the leaking battery you describe. Yet the price is a bit on the high side

Will the A4000 be able to use the new Flat screen LCD/Plamsa T.V's for a display?
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Originally Posted by jpor
Noticed on the e-bay that you can get hold of the infamous A4000T that doesn't suffer from the leaking battery you describe. Yet the price is a bit on the high side

Will the A4000 be able to use the new Flat screen LCD/Plamsa T.V's for a display?
You'll need either a flicker fixer - that doubles the 15Hz output to 30(ish) hz. However, some TFT's won't go that low.

Or a graphics card - Cyberstorm or Picasso is the one you want. No idea how much these are these days.

I've fallen out of touch with much of the Amiga scene these days. Hoping to get back into it as soon as I can find some time.

BTW, there are a couple of project to make a nano-ITX based Amiga A500 (and may A1200). Minimig and Clone-A look very interesting projects. THe Clone-a would be small enough to fit onto a PCI card or even in a handheld device!
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Originally Posted by Steve Perriam
lol, my c64 also came from Rumbelows to along with the commodore tape deck.

sure it cost a chunk more than £190 though.


My C16 came from Boots IIRC (well, I was Five years old at the time )
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Never had a speccy or a 64, mind you i dabbled with a mates ZX81


first computer was an Amstrad cpc 464

i went for the colour option, and added all the add ons i could.

the 3" diskdrive & the DMP printer.


many an evening were wiped out on that machine


Alien highway
Scorcery
Spindizzy


then i bought an Amiga








never had so much fun in my life,

Demo,s

thats all i collected at one time,


El-gato was cool, as was most of the other stuff, The Newtek demo, and the Tech-Tech demo were awseome.

Games drove me nuts too

The ghiana sisters, (i lost weeks playing that)

Cannon fodder, never finished but often tried
Barbarian, never got very far..........................ever


i sold my A500 recently and bought an A1200, big mistake, i want my A500 back


Mart


funny isnt it, back in the 80,s you had a machine that could emulate a pc, & multitask, yet the pc,s at that time were only just multitasking, and couldn't come close to the power of the Amiga.

Although some things were horrendous


£99 for 512k of memory


mart
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i sold my A500 recently and bought an A1200, big mistake, i want my A500 back
Personally I found the upgrade from A500 to A1200 the best thing I did, especially when you add a HDD into the A1200, this came in handy for games such as Sam and MAX and Monkey island with it's 8 floppy disks. What issues have you had? You know that to make the A1200 play A500 stuff you have to hold down both Mouse buttons when powering up to take off the AGA mode?
Personnally I would go with either an A1200 or A4000 these days.
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Originally Posted by jpor
Personally I found the upgrade from A500 to A1200 the best thing I did, especially when you add a HDD into the A1200, this came in handy for games such as Sam and MAX and Monkey island with it's 8 floppy disks. What issues have you had? You know that to make the A1200 play A500 stuff you have to hold down both Mouse buttons when powering up to take off the AGA mode?
Personnally I would go with either an A1200 or A4000 these days.
does that work for demo.s and bckups


Mart
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"El Gato" was that the demo with the cat ?
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The ghiana sisters, (i lost weeks playing that)
LOL, if there ever was a blatant rip off of Mario, this was it

Good game though
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Originally Posted by mart360
does that work for demo.s and bckups


Mart
From experience, Yes. It was 13 years ago since I used one.
The demos you could transfer onto HDD. Had an awesome HOTH star Wars demo that required 2MB RAM and HDD to play. Recall putting a WAV file on it with a snippett of the Empire Strikes Back where Luke Skywalker and rogue squadron wer attacking them. It was on a loop. Unfortunately they are all gone, now, but I did capture thme to Video Tape. Just have to dig out to have a look at it again.
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Originally Posted by spectrum48k
"El Gato" was that the demo with the cat ?
indeed it was,

absolutely stunning (for its time)


mart
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Demos ... on the Amiga. I remember those. When the juggler one came out for the Amiga, I rewrote it for the Atari ST and it was published by Page 6 on one of their disks I think. Long, long time ago



Steve
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Originally Posted by boxst
Demos ... on the Amiga. I remember those. When the juggler one came out for the Amiga, I rewrote it for the Atari ST and it was published by Page 6 on one of their disks I think. Long, long time ago



Steve
nice one


never had an ST, didnt it come with midi built in?

mart
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Yep I had a 520stfm a 1040ste, the st was the first machine with built in midi (actually it might have been the msx machines as well) but the atari found favour in studios once cubase (or whatever it was called back then) was released for it.

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