scoobyDAZZA

to be fair , the previous owner(andy,mate of mine) did have it running over 350 bhp on standard wrx 03 internals , he was warned that was pushing it to the limit.

l33 griff

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this is true the engine (2004 EJ20) was standard with 34k miles on the clock, it had a vf34 turbo with sti pink 550cc injectors with front mount and bigger fuel pump, mapped with ecu-tek and a Eboost2 boost gauge, i dont want to cause arguments etc..... in some way it suits me better as my engine is being rebuilt with forged pistons conrods etc by the warrenty company but it will be mapped by bob

just thought id add that when it was mapped originaly i wasnt there so the the previous owner could well have been warned.....

scoobyDAZZA

will be awesome as well bud

Kev rings me alot for advice etc
certainly gave him a few pointers on yours
except for the FP

Alan Jeffery

Hi Lee, how are you?

I like you as it happens.
Andy was well aware that the shelf life of his WRX engine was compromised by the use he put it to. He frequently drag raced the car, and put in a very high mileage with it in the knowledge that a rebuild was inevitable sooner or later.
When you spoke to me to ask my advice prior to buying the car, I confirmed the specification, but warned you that due to the fact that the engine had never been out of the car, you should put money aside to allow for a rebuild. Andy had covered some 30,000 miles since we modified it, and I told you this.
As an aside, Bob Rawle tested the car when it attended a rolling road day previously at another premises, and declared the car to be "perfect" We still have the log files, and can confirm the facts.
My understanding is that the standard cast piston ring lands failed in actual fact, rather than succumbing to a mapping issue.
I hope your rebuild goes well for you!

l33 griff

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hi Alan im doing good thanks, im not knocking the mapping, like i said it was a standard engine and nothing will last forever once its been turned up a notch or two.... the piston started to melt around where the ring is. i was a little surprised it happen so quick in my presents but like i said it, its worked out quite well. which makes a change lol. ive been a customer of yours for some years with a previous car (seat ibiza cupra), and being that bob comes down this far thought id test the water else where and was stating so. Im sorry if it seemed like i was knocking your work as that was not my intentions. I hope all is well and no doubt see you at either a rolling road day or at the drag strip.

Floyd

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Bob R, Zen.

ozzreid1964

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bob rawle

Alan Jeffery

Hi Lee - No problem mate.
To illustrate the kind of problems that can afflict these cars, I'm prepared to put money on someone running that car on 95 octane at some stage between Andy selling the car, and you buying it.

scoobyDAZZA

just what i thought Alan , but didn't want to say in case it was Lee , lol

l33 griff

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proberly lol, come to think about the garage i bought it off did give me a full tank of fuel..... anyway, onwards and upwards

ELYA49

At Mocom Racing.... In 25 hours and counting...2007 2.5 WRX...

p1mark

It's impossible to say who is best, and anyone who says they know who is best is either lying, trolling in the hope of causing a rumble, or most likely both.

I always used Bob Rawle and would recommend him to anyone if they asked me directly. From listening to people who know the crack (i.e not everyone on SN) i would not have a problem with taking my car to Andy F, Paul blamire (Zen) and JGM, although i have no personal experience with these 3.

Anyone else, i would personally have some concerns about - some major, some minor.

This is assuming you are wanting an Ecutek map.

old bob

i'd say paul @ ZEN, made my 14 yr old girl fly with Autronic, but probably like most people i dont know any different as he's the first ive ever used, so naturally id say he's the best, after being on the rollers else where though, it was asked who mapped it cause the map was absolutly perfect!

Andy.F

Not exactly a valid comparison though if you are comparing the wait time of part time mappers with full time mappers.
Then you could say the same about comparing the waiting lists of full time Jap mappers with full time SUBARU ONLY mappers

I can't believe I'm getting drawn into a 'my list is longer than yours' discussion Size isn't everything

Andy

tiny gsy

It all depends on personal experience Everyone will say the mapper they used is awesome unless they experience someone else who`s map performs better results. Of course that`s assuming the spec doesn`t get changed in between and who`s going to want a car mapped that they haven`t altered the spec on since its last remap?

scoobyDAZZA

Andy must have a small *****

ZEN Performance

I am da l33t m4990r!

Just call me Grandmaster Flash....

Andy.F

I heard that at best you had a flat 4

WRX_Rich

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what would be interesting would be a poll of how many people have their car remapped by a second mapper due to not being happy with the original.

I have heard to many times that the above is happenng but due to the cult following some business's have is never make public

should say i am one of those people and Bob Rawles sorted my problems after far to many visits to my original mapper

I can't comment on who is the best mapper but Bob's stength is he makes you fully aware of what is happening at all times with an after sales service that is second to none, I guess only mapping a small amount of cars (in comparion) a week helps this

Rich

scoobyDAZZA

agree Rich , i had my first remap 'elsewhere' then went to Bob for the next 8 or 9 lol

thing is the first place i went hasn't been mentioned as good or bad so i won't name

Skooby53

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I'm off to see Bob on Saturday. I have only been in contact with him via email, but I must say he certainly knows his stuff! I have made the recommended adjustments before going to Swindon. I have every confidence in his abilities and I am sure this will be the start of a new relationship between Bob and my wallet

I will post any data and a brief outline of how the day went on Saturday evening. To be honest just want to get it done, Bob is a popular man and I did book in mid January.

fireblade37

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Had exactly the same scenario.

jasonius

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Fair point and something I'd inadvertently overlooked..

Now get that ***** weight out..!

SPEN555

Off the top of my head there is;

Powerstation
Bob Rawle
Steve Simpson
Jolly Green Monster
Andy F
Andrew Carr
Pat
Zen Performance

Pete Croney (just kidding)

Some of these guys map for a few tuners.

I might of missed a few as well

Someone donate a car for a 'mapping shootout' see who can extract the most power out of a standard car

Alan Jeffery

Re SPEN555 post, there used to be a story going around about Formula Fords.
Three main engine builders, DOME, Minister, and Scholar, all of whom claimed 2 bhp more than the others. The joke was that you could buy an engine, take it first to Dome, then Minister, then Scholar and gain 6 bhp!

SPEN555

lol

New_scooby_04

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How long does it have to run at that power level??

The real mark of a great mapper is maximum power, drivability AND reliability all in one package. I'd settle for a few horses less if it meant the car would remain reliable any day of the week: broken cars tend to be REALLY slow!

dunx

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So if I only "need" two more years of life out of my engine...
Who reckons they can extract the maximum, "area under the curve" ?

LOL

DunxC

Currently collecting many small anodized parts.... in a variety of colours !

Andy.F

Want an 850+bhp 210mph sprint engine, no problem. Want it to last 50,000 miles being thrashed every day ? Different task !

Its a risky business rating mappers on a peak power output, thats the easy bit. Optimising the driving smoothness and flexibility takes a bit more time. Ensuring long term reliability comes with years of experience at different power levels.
We are all still learning something virtually every time we map a car.

Andy

reeperb5

heard good stuff about Bob but i went with Pat who did my RB5 Yesterday.. very thorough and knows his stuff... highly recomended...