Any Burger King managers on here?
16 January 2008, 03:15 PM
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I dont think any of us believe that a persons appearance effects their ability to do a job, but that isnt the issue. Pretty much every company will have some rules about appearance, either for hygiene, safety, just because they dont want you walking around in buttless leather trousers etc...
So none of you know thier policy then?
16 January 2008, 04:43 PM
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He does it part time while doing a diploma in public services at college, smart ****!
16 January 2008, 05:51 PM
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So what kind of helicopter parent are you BBC NEWS | Education | The curse of the meddling parent
Seriously, If I was the parent, I would not be ringing up the employer as the contract and t&cs are with BK and the employee and I would be absolutely mortified had I been the child and my dad had called up my employer!
I used to look like a total goth when I was younger...there's no way I'd have the job I have now if I continued to insist on wearing that stuff now (very middle of the road, conservative US company)
Seriously, If I was the parent, I would not be ringing up the employer as the contract and t&cs are with BK and the employee and I would be absolutely mortified had I been the child and my dad had called up my employer!
I used to look like a total goth when I was younger...there's no way I'd have the job I have now if I continued to insist on wearing that stuff now (very middle of the road, conservative US company)
16 January 2008, 05:57 PM
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So what kind of helicopter parent are you BBC NEWS | Education | The curse of the meddling parent
Seriously, If I was the parent, I would not be ringing up the employer as the contract and t&cs are with BK and the employee and I would be absolutely mortified had I been the child and my dad had called up my employer!
I used to look like a total goth when I was younger...there's no way I'd have the job I have now if I continued to insist on wearing that stuff now (very middle of the road, conservative US company)
Seriously, If I was the parent, I would not be ringing up the employer as the contract and t&cs are with BK and the employee and I would be absolutely mortified had I been the child and my dad had called up my employer!
I used to look like a total goth when I was younger...there's no way I'd have the job I have now if I continued to insist on wearing that stuff now (very middle of the road, conservative US company)
Do you know BK's policy? if not troll elsewhere
17 January 2008, 09:17 AM
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17 January 2008, 10:03 AM
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Burger King settles suit over worker’s beard | Philadelphia Inquirer | 12/03/2007
Quote: In 2004, the restaurant had a policy that employees must be clean-shaven except for those required to have beards to practice their religions. The employee, Gary Majors, of Chester, brought a letter from his imam, but was still dismissed.
Quote: In 2004, the restaurant had a policy that employees must be clean-shaven except for those required to have beards to practice their religions. The employee, Gary Majors, of Chester, brought a letter from his imam, but was still dismissed.
My post wasn't so unreasonable now was it?
17 January 2008, 05:06 PM
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Interesting definition of trolling you have there. He thought he'd been sacked, you phoned up on his behalf...
17 January 2008, 06:51 PM
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17 January 2008, 07:26 PM
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The 1st job i had when i left school was working in a parts dept at a Lada garage
I rode a motorbike so thought it was cool to have a stud in my ear but the parts manager said it was unprofesional and i was made to take it out.
I can understand how someones appearence can be off-putting to some customers and the food industry is more strict now that everyone seems to be suing for something or other so they have to protect themselves.
If a customer creates a fuss in front of other customers about poor hygeine of the staff then 1 thing can lead to another until somebody complains to the head office and the manager gets a b0llocking.
I would have thought the manager should have sent him home at the start of the shift when he turned up not near the end unless he hadn't seen him? and he should have made it clear why he was sent home without giving a dismisal impression
Surely if your son thought he was being sacked he would have been told to return the uniform and wages would be forwarded to him?
The 1st job i had when i left school was working in a parts dept at a Lada garage
I rode a motorbike so thought it was cool to have a stud in my ear but the parts manager said it was unprofesional and i was made to take it out.
I can understand how someones appearence can be off-putting to some customers and the food industry is more strict now that everyone seems to be suing for something or other so they have to protect themselves.
If a customer creates a fuss in front of other customers about poor hygeine of the staff then 1 thing can lead to another until somebody complains to the head office and the manager gets a b0llocking.
I would have thought the manager should have sent him home at the start of the shift when he turned up not near the end unless he hadn't seen him? and he should have made it clear why he was sent home without giving a dismisal impression
Surely if your son thought he was being sacked he would have been told to return the uniform and wages would be forwarded to him?
17 January 2008, 07:44 PM
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18 January 2008, 09:16 AM
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pauld37 - you misunderstood my post - your son may well be training to become a neuro surgeon but AT THE MOMENT he doesnt have any skills that would make someone want to employ him in anything other than a dead end job like BK - WHEN HE DOES he may well find he has more say in the way he dresses for work, but until then he has to put up with it.
And no, I dont know BK's policy on shaving as a general rule, but in the place your son is working then their policy is to have clean shaven workers, as he has found out.
I own my own business, so dress how I like, and I have employed people over the years in various other businesses, both mine and other peoples. Generally I'm fairly easy going on appearance as I dont personally think it has anything to with how well someone works, but I have worked in places where a set uniform has to be worn, and there are rules about hair length, jewelry etc... so I had to conform to that as it was part getting the job.
Lets be honest, if you went to see your local GP and he had a face full of piercings, full sleeve tattoos and was wearing jeans half way down his **** you wouldnt feel so confident in his abilities as a 60 year old grey haired doctor in tweed would you ?
And no, I dont know BK's policy on shaving as a general rule, but in the place your son is working then their policy is to have clean shaven workers, as he has found out.
I own my own business, so dress how I like, and I have employed people over the years in various other businesses, both mine and other peoples. Generally I'm fairly easy going on appearance as I dont personally think it has anything to with how well someone works, but I have worked in places where a set uniform has to be worn, and there are rules about hair length, jewelry etc... so I had to conform to that as it was part getting the job.
Lets be honest, if you went to see your local GP and he had a face full of piercings, full sleeve tattoos and was wearing jeans half way down his **** you wouldnt feel so confident in his abilities as a 60 year old grey haired doctor in tweed would you ?
18 January 2008, 11:19 AM
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Yes, it was. People who's religion says they have to have a beard (
) are able to wear a beard-net (
). Little public service studying Oik is not growing a beard as far as I gather, he was simply unshaven. If he was growing a beard BK would provide him with a beard-net (
) too.
) are able to wear a beard-net (). Little public service studying Oik is not growing a beard as far as I gather, he was simply unshaven. If he was growing a beard BK would provide him with a beard-net () too.
18 January 2008, 11:49 AM
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pauld37 - you misunderstood my post - your son may well be training to become a neuro surgeon but AT THE MOMENT he doesnt have any skills that would make someone want to employ him in anything other than a dead end job like BK - WHEN HE DOES he may well find he has more say in the way he dresses for work, but until then he has to put up with it.
And no, I dont know BK's policy on shaving as a general rule, but in the place your son is working then their policy is to have clean shaven workers, as he has found out.
I own my own business, so dress how I like, and I have employed people over the years in various other businesses, both mine and other peoples. Generally I'm fairly easy going on appearance as I dont personally think it has anything to with how well someone works, but I have worked in places where a set uniform has to be worn, and there are rules about hair length, jewelry etc... so I had to conform to that as it was part getting the job.
Lets be honest, if you went to see your local GP and he had a face full of piercings, full sleeve tattoos and was wearing jeans half way down his **** you wouldnt feel so confident in his abilities as a 60 year old grey haired doctor in tweed would you ?
And no, I dont know BK's policy on shaving as a general rule, but in the place your son is working then their policy is to have clean shaven workers, as he has found out.
I own my own business, so dress how I like, and I have employed people over the years in various other businesses, both mine and other peoples. Generally I'm fairly easy going on appearance as I dont personally think it has anything to with how well someone works, but I have worked in places where a set uniform has to be worn, and there are rules about hair length, jewelry etc... so I had to conform to that as it was part getting the job.
Lets be honest, if you went to see your local GP and he had a face full of piercings, full sleeve tattoos and was wearing jeans half way down his **** you wouldnt feel so confident in his abilities as a 60 year old grey haired doctor in tweed would you ?
Very sensible post that I agree with 100%
I think the bottom line is that if you want the job,you have to conform to whatever rules the company impose,if you don't like that then you leave and work elsewhere !
I've worked for my company for over 12 years now,we used to have radios allowed on the factory floor but they have just banned them because they have decided it doesn't look professional to visiters who are either existing customers or potential new customers !
Now I don't agree with them on this issue but I have no choice to conform with them as it's their rules
18 January 2008, 12:25 PM
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This hairnet PPE thing really niggles me. I used to work in a food factory and saw some right sights on the shop floor.
Mainly people wearing hairnets/beard snoods with so much hair bulging out from the sides it was pointless wearing the protection.
My argument to aid the original poster is that in my opinon, eyelashes and eyebrows are not covered nor removed and yet they probably fall out more than the hairs on ones arms! they're certainly more noticable anyway.
I took it up with the hygiene manager once and he didn't have an answer.
Nick
Mainly people wearing hairnets/beard snoods with so much hair bulging out from the sides it was pointless wearing the protection.
My argument to aid the original poster is that in my opinon, eyelashes and eyebrows are not covered nor removed and yet they probably fall out more than the hairs on ones arms! they're certainly more noticable anyway.
I took it up with the hygiene manager once and he didn't have an answer.
Nick
18 January 2008, 01:03 PM
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Your son should have received training or T&C's when he was employed and I would be stunned if daddy did not approve them before he was allowed to start work. Not sure what impression your setting for you son but sending daddy in to fight a battle with HIS employer is wrong. Sure all the other staff will have a field day with Daddy's boy now.
18 January 2008, 02:47 PM
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Your son should have received training or T&C's when he was employed and I would be stunned if daddy did not approve them before he was allowed to start work. Not sure what impression your setting for you son but sending daddy in to fight a battle with HIS employer is wrong. Sure all the other staff will have a field day with Daddy's boy now.
Has he learned anythng from ths experience yet ?
rules
disaplin?
It would worry me if he didnt really understand if he was sacked or just sent home?
should you as a responsible parent not give him guidence on this matter and kick his As# and tell him to shave you scruffy git
was it really necessary for you to ring his employer ?
im afraid his cards and chips are marked now and he wont get another star on his badge !!##
or most of all a glowing reference when he gets a better job in the future as maybe alex fergie hadnt time to give him one as well if he turned down Man UTd for BK shooters
18 January 2008, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
"If you are black, pregnant, in a wheel chair, gay, can't speak english, female or overweight (or all of the above)"
I'm trying to picture the person who is all of the above!
"If you are black, pregnant, in a wheel chair, gay, can't speak english, female or overweight (or all of the above)"
I'm trying to picture the person who is all of the above!
18 January 2008, 06:44 PM
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Yes, it was. People who's religion says they have to have a beard () are able to wear a beard-net (). Little public service studying Oik is not growing a beard as far as I gather, he was simply unshaven. If he was growing a beard BK would provide him with a beard-net () too.
) are able to wear a beard-net (). Little public service studying Oik is not growing a beard as far as I gather, he was simply unshaven. If he was growing a beard BK would provide him with a beard-net () too.Who's?!
18 January 2008, 10:39 PM
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Surely whether you grow facial hair or not is your own choice and should not be used as something to discipline you over. I bet if he was wheelchair bound they wouldn't ask him to stand up as the customers don't like having to look down on him at the other side of the till. If I was your son I'd tell them to get to fvck
If you are serving or handling food, then you should be clean shaven or wear a beard net just as you should wear an all covering hairnet.
18 January 2008, 10:54 PM
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My girlfriend worked in a cafe in Tesos until recently as a cook and she said they had no rules at all regarding covering hair etc and also said some of the staff always turned up scruffy and dirty.
After some of the things she told me about that place i'm glad I don't eat in places like that !
She has just started a new job as a cook in an care home and they are very strict with their rules and regulations.
She is not allowed to wear any jewellery at all and must wear a hair net and hat. The guys have to be clean shaven and also wear hair nets and hats.
After some of the things she told me about that place i'm glad I don't eat in places like that !
She has just started a new job as a cook in an care home and they are very strict with their rules and regulations.
She is not allowed to wear any jewellery at all and must wear a hair net and hat. The guys have to be clean shaven and also wear hair nets and hats.
19 January 2008, 07:28 AM
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19 January 2008, 07:34 AM
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My girlfriend worked in a cafe in Tesos until recently as a cook and she said they had no rules at all regarding covering hair etc and also said some of the staff always turned up scruffy and dirty.
After some of the things she told me about that place i'm glad I don't eat in places like that !
After some of the things she told me about that place i'm glad I don't eat in places like that !
They use the cheapest of products in care home kitchens, and charge more than upmarket restaurants