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Old 10 February 2008, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
Hmmm, Mike does seem to be keeping very quiet about the driver weight loss and fitness program?
Haven't seen you out on the bike lately!
Old 10 February 2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by essexboy30
Haven't seen you out on the bike lately!

Hmmmmnnnn

Not seen either of you two since the 1st MTB Meet
Old 10 February 2008, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny01
Hmmmmnnnn

Not seen either of you two since the 1st MTB Meet
Can't fit the bike in the car now there's a cage in the way...
well that's my excuse and i'm sticking with it!
Old 10 February 2008, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny01
Hmmmmnnnn

Not seen either of you two since the 1st MTB Meet

That's cos you keep arranging the meets when you should be out playing golf!

Originally Posted by essexboy30
Haven't seen you out on the bike lately!
Didn't think I was going to be driving, so my weight loss was not an issue. or do you want the car to go faster this year?
Old 10 February 2008, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
That's cos you keep arranging the meets when you should be out playing golf!



Didn't think I was going to be driving, so my weight loss was not an issue. or do you want the car to go faster this year?
No but i expect you to bit fit and strong for quick pit stops, tyres changes etc......(fetching bacon butties, coffee's....)
Old 14 February 2008, 11:47 AM
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BTT

Want to start this proper blog when your ready mate
Old 14 February 2008, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
BTT

Want to start this proper blog when your ready mate
neil (team manager) is round with me tomorrow, so will discuss and come up with an action plan to get started on this.....!!!
Old 14 February 2008, 12:22 PM
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Top Man

May influence my ongoing disccusions
Old 14 February 2008, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_stephens
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May influence my ongoing disccusions
Will definetly happen.....
i also need this as i want to register a web address with TA for my driver page....
got to provide a pretty picture of me in the pink suit!!
Old 14 February 2008, 12:45 PM
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Well another busy day trying to fit the new drivers seat...
But thanks to some new brackets from YVM's friend, and a little fabrication this was the end result...

The seat is very comfortable and provides great feel and feedback through the car. however the car is quite narrow inside and the seat does fill it...



Also found time to fit a passenger seat too!


Thanks to Alyn (Stockcar) for the seat mounts....
Thanks to Kev @Apex for the seat and harness.

The car really is getting lighter now.... at this rate, I'll need to tie it down!!
Old 15 February 2008, 07:48 PM
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Looking good Mike.

I see your seat is very very close to the B pillar just like mine is.

Running a seat with the head restraint is even more of a bugger due to it fouling the B pillar trim.

Ive moved my seat closer to the transmission tunnel a wee bit to ensure a good fit.
Old 15 February 2008, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Looking good Mike.

I see your seat is very very close to the B pillar just like mine is.

Running a seat with the head restraint is even more of a bugger due to it fouling the B pillar trim.

Ive moved my seat closer to the transmission tunnel a wee bit to ensure a good fit.
Yeah it's very tight.. TBH the seat catches the door...
Guess thats what happens when you get the fat boy version!
I couldn't move mine any further over to the tunnel, as the sliding mounts wouldn't have worked... the passenger seat is fixed.
Plus i had the issue of my head hitting the roll frame where the OEM seat was too high....
Old 15 February 2008, 08:48 PM
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hope that passenger seat will be big enough for me at brands m8
would like to see how its done pro styleee

budgie
Old 15 February 2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
hope that passenger seat will be big enough for me at brands m8
would like to see how its done pro styleee

budgie
Sorry Pete, the pasenger seat is the standard slim fit, maybe you could hang onto the cage in the back?

Only the drivers is the XL Lardy version.
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I won't need the crash helmet then
Old 15 February 2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by essexboy30
Yeah it's very tight.. TBH the seat catches the door...
Guess thats what happens when you get the fat boy version!
I couldn't move mine any further over to the tunnel, as the sliding mounts wouldn't have worked... the passenger seat is fixed.
Plus i had the issue of my head hitting the roll frame where the OEM seat was too high....
Im fabricating mine using the OEM runners. Its a long and painstaking job. Measure, mock up, tack weld, trial,
re measure, re fab, re tack re trial.
re measure. re mock up, re tack, re trial blah blah blah lol.

Hopefully it will be worth it when im done. I want it to be a factory fit as possible.
Old 16 February 2008, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
hope that passenger seat will be big enough for me at brands m8
would like to see how its done pro styleee

budgie
If i can fit, i'm sure you can too.... although it is tight!!!
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Originally Posted by frayz
Im fabricating mine using the OEM runners. Its a long and painstaking job. Measure, mock up, tack weld, trial,
re measure, re fab, re tack re trial.
re measure. re mock up, re tack, re trial blah blah blah lol.

Hopefully it will be worth it when im done. I want it to be a factory fit as possible.
Yeah it's not a straight forward job!!!!
Old 16 February 2008, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by essexboy30
Yeah it's not a straight forward job!!!!
Say that again,

The dash and roof vent put together was a walk in the park compared to this
Old 17 February 2008, 07:34 PM
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Every day seems to bring more progress and more work trying to get the car ready for TA and also ready for the SIDC track day...

Well we managed to get more clearance fro both seats to the B Pillar and also mounted the FIA approved race harnesses.





And the good news is that the passenger seat has passed the Fat Boy test... both Neil & I fit!!! although it is a tight fit!!!

Then the next mod was to get the data the logger fitted...
this required some electronics to be produced, so that we could reduce the input voltage from the RPM signal to 5v.. but with the below work, it was a success (thanks Neil)


What will the data logger provide.???
Well it has a high precision GPS input, accelerometers for lateral and longitudinal G-Forces, analogue input for throttle position, rpm input and some very comprehensive software. So bottom line i can analyse every aspect of every lap on track, braking points, throttle usage, turning g-force, position on track, lap times, sector times and so much more (torque values, horse power values, etc.).

Here are some acceleration values taken yesterday on a very short run.

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removing the front seat belts has got to save some weight too hasn't it?
Old 17 February 2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
removing the front seat belts has got to save some weight too hasn't it?
yeah i agree, but two issues with this...

1) i would have to wear the harness every time i drive the car, and there not that easy to use....
2) Not entirely sure if the car is technically road legal with an aftermarket harness (even with FIA approved).
Old 17 February 2008, 07:50 PM
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Before anyone comments,
yes of course the data logging was done on private closed land, else we could not have recorded the 100+mph speeds.

'electronics', as can be seen it was hardly a complex circuit, but hell it worked so happy days!
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Originally Posted by essexboy30
yeah i agree, but two issues with this...

1) i would have to wear the harness every time i drive the car, and there not that easy to use....
2) Not entirely sure if the car is technically road legal with an aftermarket harness (even with FIA approved).
I dont have belts in mine Mike, passed the MOT fine as they harness are E makrked and FIA approved.

If you use em everyday they become easy to use
Old 17 February 2008, 08:33 PM
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electric window motors out of the back windows too
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Originally Posted by essexboy30
And the good news is that the passenger seat has passed the Fat Boy test... both Neil & I fit!!! although it is a tight fit!!!
i am starting to get a little concerned at how close you two are becoming
both in one racing seat at the same time is not healthy
but if you must
keep it to yourselves

budgie
Old 17 February 2008, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by peter budgen
i am starting to get a little concerned at how close you two are becoming
both in one racing seat at the same time is not healthy
but if you must
keep it to yourselves

budgie

FPMSL - your ability to see inuendo in almost anything is frankly staggering!

But I guess that if i can fit then most people will be able to, well maybe not the slim Brothers
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
FPMSL - your ability to see inuendo in almost anything is frankly staggering!

But I guess that if i can fit then most people will be able to, well maybe not the slim Brothers

my life is just one big carry on film neil
and just to beat Ed to it
Carry On Forehead will be its title

budgie
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Well the car goes into Zak tonight for the geometry set up ready for Brands.... Yes you did read right... TONIGHT....
He will sort the car after i fly home from germany....
Truly out of the ordinary service...
with a bit of luck, we may also look at the high level boost, as i'm only mapped to 1.7bar at the moment..


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