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Old 13 January 2008, 10:43 AM
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does not mention a flashing (annoying) pixel
Old 13 January 2008, 11:21 AM
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It's also aimed at monitors, does ISO apply to Televisions too?


And secondly, I wonder if its possible to challange the ISO standard as unacceptable to the general public in terms assuring adequate quailty. As its obviously devised to appease manufacturers of 2nd rate screens who are incapeable of manufacturing a screen and not be 100% certain it will not suffer a pixel failure within it warrantee.; they may as well not offer a warrantee full stop.

In addition the consumer is not made aware that they are buying a product where its termed "acceptable" to for it not to do what one expects a montor to do when brand new: and that is to display a perfect picture.

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Old 13 January 2008, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Les, I was counting on you being my 'Second'
Goes without saying.

Yes it does not mention a flashing one which can be described as considerably more annoying and guaranteed to spoil one's viewing.

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Old 13 January 2008, 12:54 PM
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I have investigated that ISO standard thoroughly (as you would expect) - I have a concrete defence for it. I am not going to disclose my defence here, but it is watertight, I can assure you

Their defence has to be that the TV does not have a fault which is covered under The Sale of Goods Act, that's going to be extremely interesting to see.

They have admitted, in WRITING, that the TV has a 'Purity Error', an Error is a Defect, a Defect is a fault.

Pretty straightforward - I fully expect the Judge to tell Currys that they haven't a chance in hell and should settle.
Old 13 January 2008, 12:58 PM
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That ISO standard is like saying to a car buyer with a cylinder which isn't working - "We abide by an ISO Standard which we didn't tell you about and is not mentioned in any documentation, which you have never heard of, which says that a cylinder not working is an acceptable tolerance on that car because (unknown to you) that car is a Class 2 car"

Laughable

And complete BOLLOX
Old 13 January 2008, 05:50 PM
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Apparently , my company is ISO9001

Put simply: we make the goal posts and set them as wide as we please.
Old 13 January 2008, 06:07 PM
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Thats quite correct, ISO 9001 simply means that if you say you will make faulty TV's then you comply if you do!!

And you can proudly boast that your products meet the ISO standard
Old 13 January 2008, 11:38 PM
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Currys now have 7 days to get their defence into the Court - or, settle out of.
Old 14 January 2008, 12:14 AM
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Is that when you will hear a court date? Once the 7 days have lapsed?
Old 14 January 2008, 12:18 AM
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No, thats when I see their Defence and the Judge reviews the case.

It is then allocated a track after a questionaire is sent out to defendant and claimant - I shall select the Small Claims Track.

'Directions' are then given by the Judge - usually to exchange details and evidence.

I pay an additional amount at this point - which Currys will have to repay me, of course.

The judge may decide that one side, or the other, has no chance of winning and then gives his opinion on that.

We shall see how it pans out - I am eager to get into that court room with my evidence and defence of anything they can throw my way
Old 14 January 2008, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
No, thats when I see their Defence and the Judge reviews the case.

It is then allocated a track after a questionaire is sent out to defendant and claimant - I shall select the Small Claims Track.

'Directions' are then given by the Judge - usually to exchange details and evidence.

I pay an additional amount at this point - which Currys will have to repay me, of course.

The judge may decide that one side, or the other, has no chance of winning and then gives his opinion on that.

We shall see how it pans out - I am eager to get into that court room with my evidence and defence of anything they can throw my way

Are the tickets to watch available on Ebay yet??
Old 14 January 2008, 12:24 AM
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The Ticket Touts have bought them all

I really wanted the fans to get them, but there was a theft at the printers!
Old 14 January 2008, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The Ticket Touts have bought them all

I really wanted the fans to get them, but there was a theft at the printers!
You DO realise that people will turn up to watch don't you? If you let the time and place slip ......thats it. Leslie is keeping a seat for me - I am bringing the sandwiches. Thats right isnt it Leslie?

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Old 14 January 2008, 08:43 AM
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Leslie and You are more than welcome - Les will bring his Gin for the Judge, your job is to boo and hiss when the Currys Solicitor tries to stitch me up

Maybe my opening line in Court should be stolen from the film Jaws - "we're going to need a bigger Court"
Old 14 January 2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by B-B
You DO realise that people will turn up to watch don't you? If you let the time and place slip ......thats it. Leslie is keeping a seat for me - I am bringing the sandwiches. Thats right isnt it Leslie?

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I would not miss it for the world B-B, we could do all sorts of useful things-even act as a character witness, boo and clap in the right places, usher all the SNetters to right and left depending on those for and against, and you and I can sip the sloe gin at the back of the court. I'll bring plenty with me!

I don't give Curry's a "cat's" chance myself.

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Old 14 January 2008, 01:37 PM
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I have nothing to fear with Les and B-B stood beside me
Old 15 January 2008, 12:51 AM
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Took some more photos of it tonight, will do the video tomorrow ...... should I get them processed at jessops so I can hand them around Court, do you think?
Old 15 January 2008, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Took some more photos of it tonight, will do the video tomorrow ...... should I get them processed at jessops so I can hand them around Court, do you think?
try and take them with a film camera,

Its easy to manipulate a digi picture, and they could be dismissed

filmstock is a bit harder

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Old 15 January 2008, 01:00 AM
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Yes, thanks Mart, I did think of that .... but, this isn't a Court of law - so, I'm assuming that they will be OK.

Remember, too, Currys admit that there is a fault - I just wish to show it to the judge .... the video actually clinches it (shows the flashing beautifully) ........ that, I will take with an analogue tape AND digital.

The fact it has a fault is not in dispute, the fact that Currys think I should live with it is in dispute.
Old 15 January 2008, 01:41 AM
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Digital images are used in court these days, with no issue regards to manipulation
Old 15 January 2008, 08:49 AM
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Even better

As can be seen from the photos in this thread, there is really no need to do any enhancement ...... it's as clear as.
Old 15 January 2008, 11:13 PM
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Goody, goody. Still on-going!!

What am I going to do when this is all over??
Old 15 January 2008, 11:15 PM
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.....By a TV from Curry's, pray it does the same and amuse yourself at trying to get them to fix it, only for you to take them to court?

Old 15 January 2008, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
.....By a TV from Curry's, pray it does the same and amuse yourself at trying to get them to fix it, only for you to take them to court?

OR you could buy a TV from John Lewis and WATCH it!
Old 15 January 2008, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by B-B
OR you could buy a TV from John Lewis and WATCH it!
No, I think I like the idea buying a TV from Curry's and finding I've got PSLewis's old telly. At least I could watch the pixel cos everything on the goggle box these days is cr*p!
Old 16 January 2008, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by noobyscooby
No, I think I like the idea buying a TV from Curry's and finding I've got PSLewis's old telly. At least I could watch the pixel cos everything on the goggle box these days is cr*p!
I think there is probably something extremely perverse about WANTING to buy Pete's old telly from Currys......too tired to work out exactly what though.

I agree though that watching the pixel would be preferable to most of the TV schedule content.

Old 16 January 2008, 09:08 AM
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Ha Ha .... the DSG Retail Group have been caught selling secondhand stuff as new many, many times before. My TV could well be palmed off to someone else as new - I could actually be the second/third/fourth owner of it in any case .... it being returned faulty after court cases

It could go down as the most resurected (sp?) TV in history and the most legally experienced
Old 16 January 2008, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Ha Ha .... the DSG Retail Group have been caught selling secondhand stuff as new many, many times before. My TV could well be palmed off to someone else as new - I could actually be the second/third/fourth owner of it in any case .... it being returned faulty after court cases

It could go down as the most resurected (sp?) TV in history and the most legally experienced

Pete - UV pens are your friend and if anyone asks: you marked it with your postcode / house number BEFORE you noted the (alleged) faulty pixel
Old 16 January 2008, 05:10 PM
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NICE idea

Hang on, if the poor sod who gets it after me has their house burgled - I'll get the bl00dy thing back!!! NOOOOOO!!!!! I will have to start another thread like this one then!
Old 16 January 2008, 09:07 PM
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Interesting statement you accuse them of there, hope you can back that up with proof.



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