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Old 20 September 2007, 02:51 PM
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I'm susprised they've gone as low as they have!

I'm also surprised other banks who use similar business models, such and A&L and B&B have such strong share prices in comparison?!
Old 20 September 2007, 02:53 PM
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Northern Rock has no future, the brand is destroyed and they are essentially unable to carry on with their business of lending money.

All that is left is for a takeover offer for their mortgage book.
Old 20 September 2007, 03:30 PM
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185 now
Old 20 September 2007, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MrRee007
These shares will bounce back come Wednesday next week - profit of £1:82 each - 10,000 shares would result in £18,200 profit on an outlay of around £46,000 ................ over 5 days

Life is sweet ........
Not looking quite so sweet now..........
Old 20 September 2007, 04:36 PM
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so who has lost the most cash so far then?
Old 20 September 2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
I'm susprised they've gone as low as they have!

I'm also surprised other banks who use similar business models, such and A&L and B&B have such strong share prices in comparison?!
They are substantially down today.
Old 20 September 2007, 05:15 PM
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Well 100,000 at 270p is looking pretty silly now.

185 and falling.


Although I remember many years ago Next were 7p and I was torn as to whether to buy a 1000 purely out of a bet.

Four years later they were 770p.

Needless to say I did not buy
Old 20 September 2007, 05:30 PM
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lol, tempting, but i can't be ar$ed to log into bloomberg to watch the price falling
Old 20 September 2007, 05:49 PM
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So there is no chance my mortgage and car loan are going to disappear then ?

Old 20 September 2007, 07:48 PM
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No they will be secure.

NR is not bust, more broken!
Old 20 September 2007, 08:30 PM
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simple question
my gf bought 1000 pounds of shares a 3 quid
does she sell now and make a loss of 4-500 quid
or hang on
Old 20 September 2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Just bought 100000 at 270p
you just lost.....£85K should have got a Lambo you would have lost less money
Old 20 September 2007, 10:17 PM
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so what happens if they go bust and nobody buys their mortgage book due to the amount of debt?
Old 20 September 2007, 10:19 PM
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so what happens if they go bust and nobody buys their mortgage book due to the amount of debt?
Old 20 September 2007, 10:28 PM
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They are not going to go bust as they are not in operational debt. Most of their mortgage book is already securitised (sold off in the capital markets). This means the capital markets carry the risk of their mortgages not NR.

Their problem is that they are having difficulty in raising new capital to back new mortgages as banks have stopped contributing to the capital markets during the 'credit crunch'.

The biggest problem is that they will struggle to do any new business for a while and so their operational costs will be loaded onto existing customers.
Old 20 September 2007, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GOLDMAN 555
you just lost.....£85K should have got a Lambo you would have lost less money
... until the first clutch change!
Old 20 September 2007, 11:11 PM
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Stolen from B3TA : WE LOVE THE WEB

Steve
Old 20 September 2007, 11:19 PM
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Haha too funny
Old 25 September 2007, 12:25 PM
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just on the news

around £1.60 now

anybody else fancy buying??
Old 25 September 2007, 12:53 PM
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Which sites do you guys look at to find the share prices falling and gaining?
Im know nowt about stocks and shares like, just interested to see whats goin on
How hard is it hard to open an account and buy shares?
Old 25 September 2007, 01:05 PM
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bloomberg anywhere
Old 25 September 2007, 01:10 PM
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Moneyextra.
Old 25 September 2007, 02:13 PM
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But they still have buildings and staff to pay for. Are they still getting new business?
Old 25 September 2007, 02:16 PM
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i know somebody who works for them and they have been assured that all jobs are safe, which means get read for the axe IMHO!!!
Old 25 September 2007, 02:26 PM
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<sound of bomb dropping>

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Old 25 September 2007, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Just bought 100000 at 270p
I keep pressing Terzo 333 for a comment but he appears disinclined.
Old 25 September 2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghetto Dude3
i know somebody who works for them and they have been assured that all jobs are safe, which means get read for the axe IMHO!!!
If Ford stopped selling new cars they'd be in trouble. If NR stops selling financial products then wont they be in trouble. Or am i missing something?
Old 25 September 2007, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I keep pressing Terzo 333 for a comment but he appears disinclined.
probably still running after the bloke in the lambo who sold 100000 of them at 270p to him
Old 28 September 2007, 04:23 PM
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£1.79

Where is this buyer then to make it all better?
Old 28 September 2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Terzo 333
Just bought 100000 at 270p
I am assuming that these were bought on the margin - how painful

Unless you are a broker by day and just playing with us


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