View Poll Results: According to your beliefs, what is the probability that God exists?
1. 100 per cent probability of God.
23
11.98%
2. Very high probability, but short of 100 per cent.
9
4.69%
3. Higher than 50 percent, but not very high.
2
1.04%
4. Exactly 50 per cent.
2
1.04%
5. Lower then 50 per cent, but not very low.
6
3.13%
6. Very low probability, but short of zero
41
21.35%
7. 0 per cent probability of God existing
109
56.77%
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On the whole people aren't easily brainwashed, its allways minorities look at the big picture the world population is IRO 6,525,170,264, look at the cults/ people who are brainwashed and i would hazard a guess they are in the minority ie cults (the perception of cults is there brainwashed) seem to number in the tens, hundereds or thousands.
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People with faith do question there faith!
Faith comes from within - it takes many forms not just religious. When you hammer your car around back lanes you have faith in your ability to control the car for example.
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From Wikipedia
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Faith can refer to any of a number of ideas, including:[1]:
Faith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Faith can refer to any of a number of ideas, including:[1]:
- Confidence in a person or thing (e.g. "I have faith that he will keep his promise");
- Adherence to an obligation of loyalty to a person, organization, or idea (e.g. "I will be faithful to my spouse.");
- Belief in a proposition or belief system without proof (e.g. "I have faith that God exists.");
- Holding to things your reason has once accepted, in spite of your changing moods [2];
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And thats the answer to the question does god exist, can't be proved either way so you have to have faith. Debate, belittle, critisise as much as you like but it boils down to that one word, FAITH.let the debate end, Amen!!!
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You have cacelled your own arguement, I make a deduction based on what i have seen, experienced, read about, feel when deciding on my faith in God.
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Maybe you're right, but I "believe" he can pull off the necessary grand miracle and maintain the recent winning streak for at least another 3 games 
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I neither know where to look for it, or remember the wording used to describe it. It may be that it was in the run up to Sodom and Gomorrah getting a kicking, or just before the Arc was built possibly. God was in a huff at the time that's for sure 
I'm not going to look it up, i just can't be bothered and don't really care. I may even have misinterpreted that part though I doubt it. I'll leave it there.
I'm not going to look it up, i just can't be bothered and don't really care. I may even have misinterpreted that part though I doubt it. I'll leave it there.
As for the shape. Was it not the case, that it was believed Colombus was going to fall off the end of the world when he went the wrong way round to to pick up some tea or whatever it was he was off to the shops for?
It is conjectured that the first person to have advocated a spherical shape of the Earth was Pythagoras (6th century BC), but this idea is not supported by the fact that most presocratic Pythagoreans considered the world to be flat.[2] Eratosthenes, however, had already determined that the earth was a sphere and calculated its rough circumference by the third century B.C. [3]
By the time of Pliny the Elder in the 1st century, the Earth's spherical shape was generally acknowledged among the learned in the western world. Ptolemy derived his maps from a curved globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His writings remained the basis of European astronomy throughout the Middle Ages, although Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages (ca. 3rd to 7th centuries) saw occasional arguments in favor of a flat Earth.
The modern misconception that people of the Middle Ages believed that the Earth was flat first entered the popular imagination in the nineteenth century, thanks largely to the publication of Washington Irving's fantasy The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828.
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By the time of Pliny the Elder in the 1st century, the Earth's spherical shape was generally acknowledged among the learned in the western world. Ptolemy derived his maps from a curved globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His writings remained the basis of European astronomy throughout the Middle Ages, although Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages (ca. 3rd to 7th centuries) saw occasional arguments in favor of a flat Earth.
The modern misconception that people of the Middle Ages believed that the Earth was flat first entered the popular imagination in the nineteenth century, thanks largely to the publication of Washington Irving's fantasy The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828.
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Of course not. BUT!! Many people on here would claim that it is impossible to be a good, moralistic person without some framework of religion with which to operate in. I'm curious as to why that's the case.
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Not really read the scriptures but have never believed or heard it said for it to be a sin to not attend. I once asked a padre about that and he says going church helps him keep his faith, he also admired people who can keep there faith withput the need to attend church!
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I have no issue with living a moral life, I think it's to be commended, but you don't require religion to do this and I rather people were moral because they see the benefit to society rather than doing it out of fear of an overseeing deity.
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Rubbish! And I will telll them that when I'm driving past them in my Subaru in the sky!
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Try here but as I have said, I think you're wrong and if it is the old testament then, for the christians at least,it's superceded by the new testament which states that blasphemy is the only unforgivable sin and yet contradicts itself on this in Acts.
I would ask you to cite that claim as well, but I expect you can't be bothered to do that either?
I wonder if your thoughts on it being a sin for christians to not attend church on sunday also come from folklore and fiction writing?
I would ask you to cite that claim as well, but I expect you can't be bothered to do that either?
I wonder if your thoughts on it being a sin for christians to not attend church on sunday also come from folklore and fiction writing?
You have cacelled your own arguement, I make a deduction based on what i have seen, experienced, read about, feel when deciding on my faith in God.
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And somebody contests it. Well, i can go and prove it, according to any parameters laid down by the doubter. I might be right, i might be wrong. But i can prove it one way or another. What i'm asking the religious people who have voted 100% that God DOES exist, is how you can say this, based on the FACT that it is an unprovable assertion.
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And thats the answer to the question does god exist, can't be proved either way so you have to have faith. Debate, belittle, critisise as much as you like but it boils down to that one word, FAITH.let the debate end, Amen!!!
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In a general sense no it doesn't matter, other than, if you are of the opinion that "god did it" what's the point in a lot of the studies going on that are trying to find out what the origins of the universe are. These studies are broadening our knowledge and making a whole of new technologies available. If people didn't question these things we wouldn't be advancing anything like as fast as we are (some may see that as a bad thing).
I have no issue with living a moral life, I think it's to be commended, but you don't require religion to do this and I rather people were moral because they see the benefit to society rather than doing it out of fear of an overseeing deity.
I have no issue with living a moral life, I think it's to be commended, but you don't require religion to do this and I rather people were moral because they see the benefit to society rather than doing it out of fear of an overseeing deity.
For example, I let someone out of a junction, later down the road, I hope they will let someone else out. One day that good gesture may come back round to me. (keeping it in the car sense and all that!)
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Ok, let's for instance say i DO have that "faith".
And somebody contests it. Well, i can go and prove it, according to any parameters laid down by the doubter. I might be right, i might be wrong. But i can prove it one way or another. What i'm asking the religious people who have voted 100% that God DOES exist, is how you can say this, based on the FACT that it is an unprovable assertion.
And somebody contests it. Well, i can go and prove it, according to any parameters laid down by the doubter. I might be right, i might be wrong. But i can prove it one way or another. What i'm asking the religious people who have voted 100% that God DOES exist, is how you can say this, based on the FACT that it is an unprovable assertion.
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No - if there was actual empirical evidence of a god(s) we'd all believe and believe in the same god(s). Anecdotes and emotions are not empirical evidence.
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I am not really sure tbh, Olly. I guess a bit of both but I think your question demands that I give an answer in human terms and so I am not sure if "guided" is the right word. d
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Not really read the scriptures but have never believed or heard it said for it to be a sin to not attend. I once asked a padre about that and he says going church helps him keep his faith, he also admired people who can keep there faith withput the need to attend church!
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Is this perhaps not the issue? Trying to attribute a "human" face to things we don't understand, rather than trying to understand them?
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Yes I do wonder sometimes if I am wrong but I would still put myself down in the 100% category although I know that strictly that is not logical
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Not really read the scriptures but have never believed or heard it said for it to be a sin to not attend. I once asked a padre about that and he says going church helps him keep his faith, he also admired people who can keep there faith withput the need to attend church!
No the god im talking bout is the same god written about the old & new testament. But as stated earlier i do not allways have 100% Faith.
Not really read the scriptures but have never believed or heard it said for it to be a sin to not attend. I once asked a padre about that and he says going church helps him keep his faith, he also admired people who can keep there faith withput the need to attend church!
No the god im talking bout is the same god written about the old & new testament. But as stated earlier i do not allways have 100% Faith.
