Suresh

I saw these milestones in a book I'm reading " THE GOD DELUSION" by Richard Dawkins. Given the religious discussions here from time to time I though it relevant.


According to your beliefs, what is the probability that God exists?

1. Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God.
"I do not believe, I know".

2. Very high probability, but short of 100 per cent. De facto theist.
"I cannot know for certain, but I strongly believe in God and live my life on the assumption that he is there".

3. Higher than 50 percent, but not very high. Technically agnostic, but leaning towards theism
"I am very uncertain, but inclined to believe in God"

4. Exactly 50 per cent. Completely impartial agnostic.
"God's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable"

5. Lower then 50 per cent, but not very low. Technically agnostic, but leaning towards atheism,
"I don't know whether God exists, but I'm inclined to be sceptical"

6. Very low probability, but short of zero. De facto atheist.
"I cannot know for certain, but I think God is very improbable and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there"

7. Strong atheist
"I know there is no God"



I score between 5 and 6, but am inclined towards 6 which makes me a de facto atheist and not an agnostic after all.

Trout

iTrader: (1)

God cannot exist and there is a simple proof.

God exists

Existence is empirical

Empiricism negates faith

God is faith (basis of all religions except the Scientologists who are bonkers)

Therefore as there is no faith there is no God - QED!

KiwiGTI

What's the definition of God?

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Was that a question from your Philosophy A level?

jasey

God - Made up by people wanting to controll the un-washed masses.

richie001

iTrader: (3)

no just a creation of humans

astraboy

I believe in a higher being beyond man's comprehension.
I also beleive that none of the organised religons of the world are even close to understanding what he/she/it is, it would be like asking an ant to comprehend human affairs.
astraboy.

David Lock

Taking that thought one could argue that it is rather arrogant of us humans to think the entire universe only operates in the 3 basic dimensions.

Even adding a couple of dimensions is beyond our understanding so add a few hundred and even Steven Hawkin would be scratching his head (if he could, poor chap).

So just may be an "entity/god/whatever" might be there.

FWIW I believe there is. dl

Moonloops

I believe in Haddock

*re-reads question*

oops

Hoppy

If there is a God, he/she/it is not very nice.

Richard.

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

Define God and divinity?

I kind of consider myself Pagan, and technically I guess I'm Pantheist; which complicates things

But as far as a abrahamic theists definition of God goes - I think they're on smack.

jjones

arguments between religions are like two kids arguing about whos invisible friend is best

JamieMacdonald

I'm a agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac - I lie awake at night wondering if there is a Dog

swaussie

God or gods (until the Israelites defined a one supieror god) were what mankind from the stone age invented to describe the world around them. I think we are a bit more advanced than we were 10-20 thousand years ago and should recognise the universe for what it is, godless and driven by laws of physics.

I guess the idea still survives because no-one wants to die and thats the end of it, a lot of people would like to think that if they waste their time on earth then they will get another shot at it. My belief is that this is it, enjoy it or its gone.

Bram

How very Masonic of you.

andythejock01wrx

Hmmmm..............only 9% of Scoobynetters so far are absolutely certain that God exists. Do reckon that's representative of the UK as a whole ?

ru'

I hope not; I'd be saddened if as many as 9% of people truely believed...

As stated above, god(s) was (were) developed to answer the questions early man could not. Moving on, the main purpose was social control etc.

Felix.

I thought the Pythons settled this:


God exists by 2 falls to a submission

GCollier

Interesting that so many people have voted for option 7 "0 percent probability", which is itself not a rational position to take.

Suresh - if you enjoy The God Delusion, both "The End of Faith" and "Letter to a Christian Nation" by Sam Harris are worth reading, and he writes better than Dawkins IMO.

Gary.

Jamie

Sh1te thread and you are thick

hectic

God is a bitch of a dog spelled backwards.....

David Lock

So a question for the 66%

So the mind boggling beauty and complexity of nature, for example, just turned up by coincidence or are we just programmed to think that nature is "nice"?

Jamie

Mods delete this sh1te thread please

hectic

by coincidence, yeah right.. you take certtain conditions.. you take a pinch of this a sprinkle of that.. god really MUST have worked his nagdgers of for those six days, no wonder the poor soul needed a rest on the seventh

SWRTWannabe

If God created the earth that makes him a builder. So, he may have done it in 6 days, but that also means that someone must have been there to make him a cup of tea with 6 sugars every hour.

Hoppy

Just as "nice" as war, starvation, genocide, torture, terrorism, greed, hatred, masacre and murder etc etc. Most of which is committed in the name of one God or another. Or is that just "nature"? Faith in any deity is a cop-out for those who can't think for themselves. Humanism works for me.

Richard.

bootsy

spot on

MY93WRX

Believers will always have the last laugh as if there is a heaven they will be there and the unbeliever wont, but if there isn't then neither will know any different.

Fuzz

I won't find out for sure until I'm dead, so from that,

One up from "0 percent chance of him existing"..


Andy

moses

one of the most powerful and beautiful quotes i ever seen, well done, thats beautiful and so true


i wont bother putting my input in this thread it will go aff track a bit if i join in and others wont let me talk so i will leave but nice post indeed astra