You think he's not trying, I think he doesn't have to, the stopwatch never lies!

Paul

 

The Puma is simply a sports Libre car and should be fast with the spec it has and the investment.
A superb piece of hillclimb machinary well driven too.

The AUDI is a different car, and far more equal to Tom Hammond's SWB Quattro which I think also ran in Sports Libre (it was a long time ago that it ran)

I think the V8 is a more remarkable performance than the Puma personally and will sweep all before it who is in the class at present.

If we can't beat them, join them.

You need a fully stripped, caged, plastic door'd, 500+ bhp lightweight car with 4 x 4 and a set of good slicks.

Graham.

 

joining them requires massive £££££££££'s, making our cheap scoob's go as fast as we do is just as impressive a feat as wading in with your cheque book and dominating, I must admit though I would most definately rather be in the £££££££ club and dominate, but that is not going to happen anytime soon, I have bought a socket set though so who knows what the winter will bring, probably lots & lots of parts on the garage floor and me looking very confused.

 

I won't be going to Epynt, I just ran it through route finder and its 3 hours from my house, and that isn't taking into consideration I will be towing. Just too far.

 

It IS a very long haul and that's from my house let alone your new Ranch.

Racing against a Darrian will be a challenge...Don't they have Cossie turbo's and 400Kg to use? And its from Ireland.

i have never seen a slow car from Ireland!

I hope to keep you 2 within 2 secs of me this weekend. A Personal goal!

Graham.

 

One Graham might appreciate.....

eBay.co.uk: imp spaceframe race car, rolling chassis. (item 150129182012 end time 13-Jun-07 20:21:18 BST)

Sorely tempted. Especially with a full race Bevan in the garage. Although a 1300 gixer would be nice..... Something like this:

YouTube - Hillman IMP


Was looking at the shelsley promo vid last night. Sod the puma, i'd rather have a shot of Grove's Predator. And you might even get a bit of spare change! Amazing, just amazing.

Glad to see the enthusiasm is back Graham!

Rob - All you need is some masking tape, a pen, lots of electrical conections, let sit for 4 months over winter then figure out what the blue spodges on the tape sitting on the ground are meant to mean. Now thats confusing.

 

I'm sorry I won't be seeing you next weekend Rob, though a certain Subaru driver was rumoured to be doing cartwheels at the news . Next year we'll be in championships and you'll have to come

Enjoy your weekend off!

 

Brecon Motor Club Forum - HILLCLIMB ENTRIES SO FAR

I've not got much competition then, a 911 C4, Nissan GTiR, TR7 V8, 2 Impreza's and a bloody Audi RS4.

But I can come third in class if I switch to Graham's mod prods class

 

The entry is filling up nicely now, looks as if we should start 60 cars. No championships so I guess that's a satisfactory number.

 

THIS IS THE PROVISIONAL ENTRY LIST, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MORE TO GO ON YEY BUT THE NUMBERING IS CORRECT.

ENTRANT DRIVER CAR CLASS TOWN
CLASS A1
10 PHIL JONES NISSAN MICRA A1 BRECON
11 GORDON HICK SEAT IBIZA A1 HENGOED
12 MIKE JONES PEUGEOT 205 GTi A1 BRECON
13 RICHARD THOMAS VW POLO A1 NEATH
14
15
CLASS A2
16 DAVID WILLIAMS RENAULT CLIO A2 CARMARTHEN
17
18
CLASS A3
19 LEIGHTON HUGHES VAUXHALL VECTRA A3 SWANSEA
20 ANTHONY DAVIES TRIUMPH TR7 V8 A3 LAMPETER
21 GERAINT DAVIES SUBARU IMPREZA A3 LLANDOVERY
22 SIMON MARKS LOTUS SUNBEAM A3 OXFORD
23 GARY WILLIAMS SUBARU IMPREZA A3 BRISTOL
24 GRAHAM BRUNTON AUDI RS4 A3 BANSTEAD
25 PHIL ORAM NISSAN PULSAR A3 NEATH
26 ANDREW MEEK SUBARU IMPREZA A3 SWANSEA
27 NICK BAYLDON PORSCHE 911 C4 A3 TOTNES
28 DEN CONIBEAR NISSAN GTiR A3 CREDITON
29
30
31
CLASS B1
32 ROBIN DAVIES PEUGEOT 205 B1 CAERPHILLY
33
CLASS C1
34 KIERAN THOMAS MINI C1 BRIDGEND
35 JAMES MORRIS FORD ESCORT C1 CAMBERLEY
36 PETER JOY LOTUS ELITE C1 CLEMSFOLD
37 KEVIN COLE HILLMAN IMP C1 SWANSEA
38 MARTYN FERRIS MINI C1 CAERPHILLY
39 BRIAN JONES WESTFIELD SE1 C1 CARDIFF
40
41
42
CLASS C2
43 ALUN JONES PEUGEOT 205 GTi C2 LLANELLI
44 PAUL NUTTER FORD ESCORT C2 LEEDS
45
46
47
CLASS C3
48 GRAHAM LOAKES SUBARU IMPREZA C3 WOLVERHAMPTON
49 SEAMUS MORRIS DARRIAN T90 C3 DUNGANNON
50
51
52
CLASS D1
53 PETER LEWIS FORD ANGLIA D1 HEREFORD
54 KENNETH PRYCE AUSTIN COOPER S D1 AMMANFORD
55 JAMES TOUT PEUGEOT 106 GTi D1 AMMANFORD
56 PETER LEWIS AUSTIN COOPER S D1 UNDY
57 ALED WILLIAMS FORD ESCORT D1 LAMPETER
58 TIM DENNIS CITROEN C2 D1 HAY-ON-WYE
59
60
CLASS D2
61 CATHY JOHN FORD ESCORT D2
62 RICHARD HIGGS FORD ESCORT D2 ABERGAVENNY
63 MARK CHRISTOPHER PEUGEOT 205 GTi D2 CINDERFORD
64 IAN SKIPP VAUXHALL ASTRA D2 BROMYARD
65 GARETH GRIFFITHS RENAULT CLIO D2 LLANNON
66 SUE HOLLIS FORD ESCORT ST CLEARS
67
68
CLASS D3
69 JUSTIN POUNDER FORD ESCORT D3 HAY-ON-WYE
70 MIKE GRIFFITHS FORD ESCORT D3 LLANELLI
71 GRAHAM HOLLIS FORD ESCORT D3 ST CLEARS
72
73
DOUBLE DRIVES
736 MATT FOWLE LOTUS ELITE C1 HOVE
755 ROBERT TOUT PEUGEOT 106 GTi D1 AMMANFORD
761 TERRY BROWN FORD ESCORT D2

 

That is a very nice list of entries, and well done to you all in Wales to getting this off the ground.

I personally know what it takes!

The Darrian won't know what's hit him when i blast off the start line at 7000 rpm.....

It might rain. I like hillclimbing in the soaking wet! (actually I do)

Out of that lot I'm looking forward to the Old Skool stuff, the Anglia etc.

Getting excited!


Graham

 

When you're there Graham can you do me a favour and ask Kev Cole if he's using a rawlson spaceframe?

Take it the Darrians rwd cossie powered. You should come out alright if it rains then!

 

And if it's dry????

 

Pedal to the metal i say!!!!!!

 

You try harder.................

 

Rob and I had another ding dong battle, i just pipped him to 2nd in class (think his brakes where having to deal with more pace and heat, and not working) here is a vid, will type more when ive slept! im shagged!

56.83 not my best but good enough.



MySpace Videos: Evo @ Loton 9/10th june 07 by Pete

 

Great weekend of hillclimbing and we all worked hard to get in front, well, you 2 did!
Prescott next, another twisty one! (thank god)

That assumes I survive Wales next week...

Graham

 

A good hot weekend in the national 'A' at Loton Park.

Practice went ok, average times and 1 continuing problem which was costing me time evry run. I have had the geometry problem at the rear of the car sorted since my last visit here and it just flys round the corners no fuss no hassle, problem was I was arriving at the top of cedar straight with lots more mph's on board and couldn't seem to stop the thing, locking up or running wide due to not being able to scrub enough speed off, it was a strange transition to make going from trying to push more up the stratight to trying to figure out where to stop pushing to give my self a chance of stopping in the small level braking area into fallow corner.

After camping for the first time in my life at the race to avoid the 100+ mile journey home or the cost of the nearest hotel that isn't full, I was ready I thought to get stuck in, first run I just wanted a clean run no smoking tyres locking up grassy detours of practice day and that's what I got a no frills run with coasting, early braking anf lots of other un-race like behaviour, I seem to be unable to seperate smooth from slow and posted a 58.04 which considering the times I have churned out at Loton was poor, but I had my run in and had put some space between myself and the pack albeit almost a second behind Pete, so I could push in the afternoon and it not matter too much if I made a mistake.

Final run I was well up for it and got a fyer 1.87 launch and arrived a the frist split time at triangle in a PB and seriously rapid 22.03 setting me up for a serious run I thought, but not on the gas early enough out of keepers and letting off early to make sure i could stop into fallow corner at the end of the straight which I had struggled to do all weekend cost me time and I posted a very average 57.17, almost half a second slower that my PB and not near enough to Pete's 56.83 giving me 3rd place, Frustrating stuff.

I think now with the power, handling, tyres the car is out growing the gold Brembo's with their worn out standard pads, at Loton at least. Watching Pete stop in a third of the distance I can in his videos in a heavier car with his mega AP's, thus being able to give it all kinds of hell on the straight I dare not, is annoying and gets me thinking of selling vital organs on the black market to fund some serious stoppers to match the serious performance that the car has now.

Had a great weekend though and can't wait to get back in the saddle for Prescott in a fortnight where I have loads to prove as I sucked last time out.

I would like to thank Paul at Zen Performance for squeezing my car in his busy schedule last week to fit my new drain to sump Catch Can which has solved all my problems and got the car running like a dream. I have pics of it all but my PC doesnt like my new camera phone so that will have to wait.



My record breaking run last time at Loton, some power slide action out of Keepers corner




Roof top video of my final competetive run, 1.87 launch, 22.03 triangle split, 57.17 finish time.

MySpace Videos: rob loton 10/6 by rob

Enjoy!

Rob.

 

Cant find the vid????

 

Should be working now

 

 

Love the roof-top vid Rob! Would love to do something similar at Epynt but don't have any kit like that. I'm a bit concerned my new pads will not be up to the job at Burma Junction (100+mph down to 1st/2nd gear corner !!) so will have to take it easy for the first couple of runs.

What was your best time of the weekend Graham?

 

A frustrating 58.02.

If Rob can't stop where does that leave me on stock stoppers?

 

I've driven classic scoob's with both the sti set up (type r) and the newage brembo conversion. Opinion from myself, and a couple of others, was the sti brakes, with uprated pads, were better than the brembos......and less reciprocating weight to boot! Speak to Paul about the stoptechs. Managed to get myself a set on fleabay of all places from a p1 owner that lost his licence for speeding.lol. (£650!!!) Brakes are superb and a few quid cheaper than the AP's. Not sure about the weight difference though.......

Which reminds me, what sort of compound pads are fitted to the stoptechs as std Paul? And what are the options? Obviously looking for oodles of bite when cold.....

 

Maybe you should pay more attention when watching telly... I'm fairly certain Martin would be surprised to find he wasn't driving a Gould !!!!

 

Oh right, my mistake, i've been mislead by the video title then. "GWR v10 predator". Either way, i reckon its quite an impressive feat getting them up the hill as quick as they do....

Hows the neetronics getting on?? Spoke to Andy the other day about getting it upgraded from .07 to .08. $60 so no question. See there's an importer selling them for near £400 on fleabay! Cant remember rightly but dont think i paid anywhere near that...

 

I'm told GWJr is running the V10 at Doune this weekend?

That is such an interesting vid of Loton rob.

I can honestly say you do nothing different to me except it accellerates faster!

 

I think due to my power advantage I have a fair few more mph's to knock off into fallow than you and the brakes just didnt seem up to it this weekend, there seemed a razor thin line between no braking and locking up, which is no use, they are pretty good stoppers but I think they are getting a bit tired now. Paul has some good, cheap ideas to get them back upto scratch over the next fortnight before Prescott though.

Watch Pete's in car vid of the weekend and look at the space he can stop in and subsequently the speed he can carry on the approach to fallow on his 362mm 6 pot front ap's 303mm 4 pot rears, it's serious stuff, chalk and cheese compared to us.

 

i could leave it later if i had the guts to keep my toe in over the rise, im really not breaking hard at all.

 

Some pics from the weekend;

My new drain to sump catch can courtesy of Paul at Zen Performance, great bit of kit and has solved all my problems, thanks again mate!

Pete and I in the pits, Pete with his freshly stripped out car, he got an amazing 7 stone in weight out of just the interior, so a nice boost to the power to weight ratio, note in the photo Keith Edwards of SWB Audi fame setting up his new IC water spray

The reason the records are tumbling, Roger Banks A4's 4.2 twin turbo engine.

Roger Moran who took both top 12 shoot outs in style, great to watch and stupidly quick.

Inside the Puma of Mike Endean, auto-motive art work and might give you some idea where all that money went. Powered him to another closed roof record this weekend.

My humble abode for the weekend, I planned to crash in my van but it was too hot so i used my dads pop up 1 man tent, glamourous it wasn't, comfy it was.