fivetide

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Interesting link but it is only a "may" and "possibly" where we do know that 72% of the world's CO2 emissions come from human activity and 18% of methane emissions too. How that isn't supposed to affect the environment i don't know. Yes cows fart but they are meant to, it does have a balance. People are the only lifeform making huge factories belching smoke into the sky.

I'm not inclined to believe the doom and gloom on exactly how bad it might be but i think to say human activity hasn't had an effect is at best naive and at worse an excuse or attempt to feel better about it all "ain't my problem mate"

5t.

Janspeed

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Balance, yes.

Blow it out of proportion, no!

oblong

The reason it was taken seriously was that noone knew how much of a problem it might be. Afterall noone knew how dates were being handled in every piece of software in the country. Some people knew how they were being handled in stuff they worked with, but noone was able to stand there and say "I know this isn't going to be a problem" without lying.

oblong

This is interesting to read Science-type stuff

LG John

Yeah but was that REALLY required? As I said, many, many thing weren't upgraded and were perfectly fine

My point remains that its the usual pattern over and over all throughout time - picture it:

Some tribe somewhere has an ecentric spirtual guide that gets it in his head that the water god is displeased. Life is good in the tribe so people tell him to STFU and he gets little attention. A few years later there is a flood and crops are lost. Waterboy uses it as 'evidence' of the water gods displeasure. Opinions are divided in the tribe and debate/argument over the issue continues for many months. The tribe elders then meet to discuss the issue and hatch a plan: they get some of the well respected key members of the community to speak out with a "Pro-water god is p*ssed" opinion. Allowing a few months for general opinion to shift the tribe elders then suggest that everyone in the community gives 20% of their next crop/fish/whatever yeilds to the 'water god' as a gift. The tribe then constructs a monument building to the water god (paid by taxes on earnings) and they stock it with the 20% food and other sacrifices less the 10% administration that the tribal leaders take for sorting it all out. The next year there is another flood and the dissillusioned masses question what they have done wrong. The tribal leaders spin another story to hide the truth. That being that there is no f*cking water god and they were done over a barrel

TonyG

Yes. If we'd done nothing for the company I worked for, no stores (1200 of them) would have got any stock delivered. So where would you get your supplies if there's nothing on the shelves?
Oh, and it was possible that no-one would have got paid either...

LG John

How do you know that though. You took action, everything was ok so you attributed that to having taken the action. How do you know you had to take that action? This is part of the cover-up process, "Er, everything was ok at Y2k because we all took action". I suppose those people/companies/organisations that didn't take action and were ok were just lucky then?

scunnered

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This web site explains all you need to know about global warming. Try asking our politicians to explain it away. I'd bet they change the subject rather quickly.
orbital variation theory

Global warming is real but completely natural.
On the other hand I'd certainly agree that we're destroying the environment with our pollution, but that's a different matter altogether and nothing to do with global temperature variations. If they want to tax us because of our pollution, why don't they just come clean and tell us the truth instead of trying their scaremongering tactics on us.

sociophobe

**** that, it's parents who are the selfish *****, run them to school, run them to any after hour activity, pick them up from whatever flop house they end up in, buy them every electronic gizmo, phone and fashion accessory they ask for (demand?), let them think the world revolves arounds them, etc etc. **** the spoiled little brats, they've got what's coming to them and it's gonna be HOT

fivetide

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my bad it looks like on that one but even a slight shift in any chemical reaction has significant issues. as i said i don't agree with scaremongering but to say we have no impact whatsoever it has to be wrong.

NotoriousREV

Maybe if you''re interested in evidence, you should start here:

Met Office: Hadley Centre: Climate monitoring

Suresh

All big / listed companies had to check their systems, which is what Y2K was all about finally. A professional organisation just couldn't afford to take a risk that clients would be inconvenienced. In Finance you have no choice but to be sure, and yes there were systems that had to be 'remediated' or they would have started charging customers back-valued interest to 1900

LG John

Usually this would be viewed as fair play by most big finance companies would it not

Suresh

No, because the customers would notice. The ones they don't notice, like the pricing of retail structured products are the best!

Edcase

Bah, beat me to it

andyfish

No no no no no no no! You are so cynical about the increase in taxes. I went to Manchester airport yesterday (in the Scoob, not the oil burner) and watched a few flights take off. All passengers had paid thier tax hike and as a reult thos full planes, miraculously, did not pump out ANY greenhouse gases. I saw it with my own eyes. More tax. Now. It will save the planet.

andy

Janspeed

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Firstly who ever said that the weather was never going to change.

Not one person!

Obviously we have some kind of effect on the enviroment, but to the extents that these 'guys' mention is out way out there.

I made a new thread on nuke tests and their effects, that I can take for granted as leaving a stain on the planet, I mean some of the things we did we horrendous.

We were messing with "the" basics of the universe, that crap will erase all weather and life in a flash, that yes is an imediate effect.

Otherwise it is timing, and money making in the best fascist way, in my modest opinion.

NotoriousREV

Just remember, the planet will take care of itself. It'll just wipe us out and end the problem

andythejock01wrx

Agreed.





Ps Is a decat with Ninja sportcat downpipe acceptable ?

kingofturds

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Britons braced for heaviest snow in years - Yahoo! News UK


Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it eco loonies

TonyG

One datum does not make a trend invalid.

kingofturds

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But the earth is on fire as the BBC keeps telling us, how can it snow