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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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can i just say

I drive an astra diesel estate 150, with a DTUK crd2, PAH i hear you say....

which on the rollers gives 201bhp and 313lb's and with the new induction kit that's been tested, a 150 diesel with dtuk chip gives 210bhp.

I leave type r'sk, golf gti's and bmw320 coupes standing, and even an audi 2.7 turbo couldnt beat me (i didn't thrash him) but i did beat him.

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and for those of you still thinking pah, see a sport hatch diesel on the strip at santa pod here (6meg) against strangley enough an escort
ftp://lan-uk.derwentside.net/spankescort.wmv

now these aren't 888's but the power is very similar, we just don't have their brakes and suspention setup.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Hi boys just joined and i DONT run a Scooby although i think they are great cars , i was reading this post and wanted to give a little info and story if its ok as i think its relevant to the thread

i run a Astra SRi green boxed Estate , 150 BHP standard 200 BHP green boxed , 300+ft LB Torque , and as said previous it is very ..errr fun , yeah call it fun , it does return 45 mpg easily and ya dont have to be driving like miss daisy , its quite and damned cheap to service ..dependant on yer dealer of course

now the story , me in my diesel following 2 Scoobys, 1 was 4wd Turbo , the other non turbo it turned out , now i know zip all about BHP figs for a standard version or a turbo version but heres what happened

private track cleared , both rolling at maybe 40mph , Scoob 1 hits it, Scoob 2 drops out, i turn on sport mode switch and we are off ...we were 100% equal for a fair stretch and at fair speeds , neither one gained or lost an inch , he was looking well confused as we slowed and had a natter side by side , he couldnt believe how fast the diesel was , a second round insued the track empty and he defo beat me away from the mark , i couldnt get traction even with new tyres but once it was bitting we were the same again , neither one gaining or loosing

now the kicker , a 3rd little run had begun and i suddenly remembered about keeping the sport switch pushed in which disengages the cars safety electrics like Traction and ESP , it also has the side benifit of making the car even quicker , but as soon as i had done so we decided to slow and natter some more , i was gutted not having switched the electrics off sooner , maybe i would have gained on him

lets not forget ...... i was driving a diesel estate made by Vxl

draw your own conclusions flame all ya want , i`m not saying mines better or anything close , just wanted to point out that diesel is alot of fun nowadays and with 45 mpg ... very agreeable on fuel

phew that was a big first post ...wheres my baky , i need a rollie

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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One for sale here - Vauxhall : ** Vauxhall Astra 888 Ltd Edition **Reduced**
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Hmm this thread is broken!
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Seriously considering a tuning box for mine.

Even wife thinks it's a good idea...
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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My wife has an Astra SRI 1.9 CDTi XP with the DTUK green box and i have to say its spot on and fast .. i drive it a lot more than i drive my scooby and like others have said 48 mpg for a car over 200bhp and 315lbs ft torque .. you just cant go wrong.
The lads over on astranetwork forums recon that its as fast as an Astra VXR on a rolling start :-)
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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No doubt the Vauxhal have a great line up at the mo.

Issues for me will alway be poor reliabilty and arrogant and incompetant dealerships and a warranty worth little.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bikky
can i just say

I drive an astra diesel estate 150, with a DTUK crd2, PAH i hear you say....

which on the rollers gives 201bhp and 313lb's and with the new induction kit that's been tested, a 150 diesel with dtuk chip gives 210bhp.

I leave type r'sk, golf gti's and bmw320 coupes standing, and even an audi 2.7 turbo couldnt beat me (i didn't thrash him) but i did beat him.

here is the car




and for those of you still thinking pah, see a sport hatch diesel on the strip at santa pod here (6meg) against strangley enough an escort

ftp://lan-uk.derwentside.net/spankescort.wmv

now these aren't 888's but the power is very similar, we just don't have their brakes and suspention setup.
And this thread started off so well before attracting the trolls. So your 210bhp diesel wipes the floor with a 200bhp ctr - of course it does son. That 10bhp makes all the difference

Simon
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
And this thread started off so well before attracting the trolls. So your 210bhp diesel wipes the floor with a 200bhp ctr - of course it does son. That 10bhp makes all the difference

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Not so sure it is trolls.

As i am sure you know the CTR has little torque compared to a lot of diesels.

catch a ctr out of the vtec zone and it is pretty flat. i know having had two dohc vtec cars a 1.6 and a 1.8 and would appear quite easy to beat.

a well driven CTR, on song would be more than a match. the CRT It is lighter and IMHO has much better suspension.

again it is all academmic and often down to the driver(s).

I beat a flat front 911 several times in a london traffic light GP a few years back in a pretty stock UK MY99 scoob, do i think the scoob a faster car, no, not really, i would put it down the the driver who made a half hearted effort or was maybe running in a new engine or maybe just did not want to play that day.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
again it is all academmic and often down to the driver(s).
That just it. Yes more torque means better acceleration from low revs but likewise a ctr driver could pull alongside, drop a cog and leave the oil burner in its tracks but thats a pointless comparison.

In an even race there is no way a ctr would get left standing by a 210bhp diesel so why bother with such stories. Gets my goat when someone with no posts jumps on a thread spouting guff like that.

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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
That just it. Yes more torque means better acceleration from low revs but likewise a ctr driver could pull alongside, drop a cog and leave the oil burner in its tracks but thats a pointless comparison.

In an even race there is no way a ctr would get left standing by a 210bhp diesel so why bother with such stories. Gets my goat when someone with no posts jumps on a thread spouting guff like that.

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I attended a tuner GP in a 190hp Fabia vRS. Amongst the challenges were 0-60, 1/4 mile and track time. I comfortably matched the type R's mid 6 second 0-60 and 15 second 1/4 mile, although I was slowed down my changing gear lots.

Through the midrange 40-110 I it was even more impressive I would use 4th to 100mph from 40. It was as quick as car's with 30% more power thanks to the torque.

Sadly, without spending a lot of money, it struggled to go around a bend. Capable enough on the road, but on the track I was left behind, just me and my epic understeer.

We parted company in 2006.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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interesting thread as i have a new CDTi SRi astra and ive owned a few imprezas.

very different cars.

in my honest opinion, the CDTi with tuning box is ok for what it is. i dont thik its anything special power wise though... its a kind of power thats nopt quite enough and makes you want more

mpg isnt too bad, ive never ever got over 42.9 in mine and thats on a long motorway run.

there a very stylish car in my opinion and i luv mine to look at, but coming from an impreza too a diesel i think has made me not appreciate what there about and now im switching back to an impreza

dont expect miricles from there hehe, and i dont really see where all these slaying victories come from as alot of cars are quicker... in my opinion i dont see how the cdti astra with tuning box would be quicker than a CTR... sorry!

thats all personal opinion too, as i mentioned i own one and luv it (well the looks)
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy M3
I attended a tuner GP in a 190hp Fabia vRS. Amongst the challenges were 0-60, 1/4 mile and track time. I comfortably matched the type R's mid 6 second 0-60 and 15 second 1/4 mile, although I was slowed down my changing gear lots.

Through the midrange 40-110 I it was even more impressive I would use 4th to 100mph from 40. It was as quick as car's with 30% more power thanks to the torque.

Sadly, without spending a lot of money, it struggled to go around a bend. Capable enough on the road, but on the track I was left behind, just me and my epic understeer.

We parted company in 2006.
You sound suprised? A 190bhp Fabia matches a 200bhp ctr. Isnt the Fabia also lighter?

This is what I would expect in a straight line. Unlike the previous poster who said a CTR was left standing.

In regard to the midrange test - are you saying that your 40-110 was faster than a CTR going through the gears (genuine question)?

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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Simon.

The reply was in response to your comment about telling stories etc. It was a genuine post to relay my own experience of performance diesel v performance petrol.

The Fabia weighs around 1315kg's, more than the Civic and fractionally less than the Astra in question.

With the aggressive custom RICA [http://www.rica.nl/] remap I can honestly say my car was quicker through the midrange, enough to be helpful on the road but probably only half to a whole car length in racing conditions.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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i drove one of those Astra's today and was pretty impressed with its handing and punch. I wont give up my p1, but am thinking of replacing my tatty second car with it.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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id say theyd be an awsome second car to an impreza.... if only i could have both
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
In regard to the midrange test - are you saying that your 40-110 was faster than a CTR going through the gears (genuine question)?

Simon

If the CTR and the Furby were going through the gears then I cannot see anyway the Skoda would win. Stick it in 1 gear and flooring it is another matter.

Fecking oil burners - yes they're good at what they do, some are even fast (but boring and uninvolving), but they're still sh1te.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by terence
id say theyd be an awsome second car to an impreza.... if only i could have both
i've had a 2nd car for about 5 years now, ever since the P1 got trashed by some t0ssers trying to nick it. its society for you.

i drive the P1 3-4 times a week and then my other diesel for the rest of the time.

i had a vauxhall cavalier many years ago, truly awful car for handling, but this astra was pretty good. only thing that bothers me is the huge depreciation.
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