Astra CDTi 888
can i just say
I drive an astra diesel estate 150, with a DTUK crd2, PAH i hear you say....
which on the rollers gives 201bhp and 313lb's and with the new induction kit that's been tested, a 150 diesel with dtuk chip gives 210bhp.
I leave type r'sk, golf gti's and bmw320 coupes standing, and even an audi 2.7 turbo couldnt beat me (i didn't thrash him) but i did beat him.
here is the car


and for those of you still thinking pah, see a sport hatch diesel on the strip at santa pod here (6meg) against strangley enough an escort
ftp://lan-uk.derwentside.net/spankescort.wmv
now these aren't 888's but the power is very similar, we just don't have their brakes and suspention setup.
I drive an astra diesel estate 150, with a DTUK crd2, PAH i hear you say....
which on the rollers gives 201bhp and 313lb's and with the new induction kit that's been tested, a 150 diesel with dtuk chip gives 210bhp.
I leave type r'sk, golf gti's and bmw320 coupes standing, and even an audi 2.7 turbo couldnt beat me (i didn't thrash him) but i did beat him.
here is the car


and for those of you still thinking pah, see a sport hatch diesel on the strip at santa pod here (6meg) against strangley enough an escort
ftp://lan-uk.derwentside.net/spankescort.wmv
now these aren't 888's but the power is very similar, we just don't have their brakes and suspention setup.
Hi boys just joined and i DONT run a Scooby although i think they are great cars , i was reading this post and wanted to give a little info and story if its ok as i think its relevant to the thread
i run a Astra SRi green boxed Estate , 150 BHP standard 200 BHP green boxed , 300+ft LB Torque , and as said previous it is very ..errr fun , yeah call it fun , it does return 45 mpg easily and ya dont have to be driving like miss daisy , its quite and damned cheap to service ..dependant on yer dealer of course
now the story , me in my diesel following 2 Scoobys, 1 was 4wd Turbo , the other non turbo it turned out , now i know zip all about BHP figs for a standard version or a turbo version but heres what happened
private track cleared , both rolling at maybe 40mph , Scoob 1 hits it, Scoob 2 drops out, i turn on sport mode switch and we are off ...we were 100% equal for a fair stretch and at fair speeds , neither one gained or lost an inch , he was looking well confused as we slowed and had a natter side by side , he couldnt believe how fast the diesel was , a second round insued the track empty and he defo beat me away from the mark , i couldnt get traction even with new tyres but once it was bitting we were the same again , neither one gaining or loosing
now the kicker , a 3rd little run had begun and i suddenly remembered about keeping the sport switch pushed in which disengages the cars safety electrics like Traction and ESP , it also has the side benifit of making the car even quicker , but as soon as i had done so we decided to slow and natter some more , i was gutted not having switched the electrics off sooner , maybe i would have gained on him
lets not forget ...... i was driving a diesel estate made by Vxl
draw your own conclusions flame all ya want , i`m not saying mines better or anything close , just wanted to point out that diesel is alot of fun nowadays and with 45 mpg ... very agreeable on fuel
phew that was a big first post ...wheres my baky , i need a rollie
ps
Azza is a wazza ....but we love him realy
i run a Astra SRi green boxed Estate , 150 BHP standard 200 BHP green boxed , 300+ft LB Torque , and as said previous it is very ..errr fun , yeah call it fun , it does return 45 mpg easily and ya dont have to be driving like miss daisy , its quite and damned cheap to service ..dependant on yer dealer of course
now the story , me in my diesel following 2 Scoobys, 1 was 4wd Turbo , the other non turbo it turned out , now i know zip all about BHP figs for a standard version or a turbo version but heres what happened
private track cleared , both rolling at maybe 40mph , Scoob 1 hits it, Scoob 2 drops out, i turn on sport mode switch and we are off ...we were 100% equal for a fair stretch and at fair speeds , neither one gained or lost an inch , he was looking well confused as we slowed and had a natter side by side , he couldnt believe how fast the diesel was , a second round insued the track empty and he defo beat me away from the mark , i couldnt get traction even with new tyres but once it was bitting we were the same again , neither one gaining or loosing
now the kicker , a 3rd little run had begun and i suddenly remembered about keeping the sport switch pushed in which disengages the cars safety electrics like Traction and ESP , it also has the side benifit of making the car even quicker , but as soon as i had done so we decided to slow and natter some more , i was gutted not having switched the electrics off sooner , maybe i would have gained on him
lets not forget ...... i was driving a diesel estate made by Vxl
draw your own conclusions flame all ya want , i`m not saying mines better or anything close , just wanted to point out that diesel is alot of fun nowadays and with 45 mpg ... very agreeable on fuel
phew that was a big first post ...wheres my baky , i need a rollie
ps
Azza is a wazza ....but we love him realy
Last edited by 200estate; Jan 18, 2007 at 10:18 PM.
My wife has an Astra SRI 1.9 CDTi XP with the DTUK green box and i have to say its spot on and fast .. i drive it a lot more than i drive my scooby and like others have said 48 mpg for a car over 200bhp and 315lbs ft torque .. you just cant go wrong.
The lads over on astranetwork forums recon that its as fast as an Astra VXR on a rolling start :-)
The lads over on astranetwork forums recon that its as fast as an Astra VXR on a rolling start :-)
can i just say
I drive an astra diesel estate 150, with a DTUK crd2, PAH i hear you say....
which on the rollers gives 201bhp and 313lb's and with the new induction kit that's been tested, a 150 diesel with dtuk chip gives 210bhp.
I leave type r'sk, golf gti's and bmw320 coupes standing, and even an audi 2.7 turbo couldnt beat me (i didn't thrash him) but i did beat him.
here is the car


and for those of you still thinking pah, see a sport hatch diesel on the strip at santa pod here (6meg) against strangley enough an escort
ftp://lan-uk.derwentside.net/spankescort.wmv
now these aren't 888's but the power is very similar, we just don't have their brakes and suspention setup.
I drive an astra diesel estate 150, with a DTUK crd2, PAH i hear you say....
which on the rollers gives 201bhp and 313lb's and with the new induction kit that's been tested, a 150 diesel with dtuk chip gives 210bhp.
I leave type r'sk, golf gti's and bmw320 coupes standing, and even an audi 2.7 turbo couldnt beat me (i didn't thrash him) but i did beat him.
here is the car


and for those of you still thinking pah, see a sport hatch diesel on the strip at santa pod here (6meg) against strangley enough an escort
ftp://lan-uk.derwentside.net/spankescort.wmv
now these aren't 888's but the power is very similar, we just don't have their brakes and suspention setup.

Simon
As i am sure you know the CTR has little torque compared to a lot of diesels.
catch a ctr out of the vtec zone and it is pretty flat. i know having had two dohc vtec cars a 1.6 and a 1.8 and would appear quite easy to beat.
a well driven CTR, on song would be more than a match. the CRT It is lighter and IMHO has much better suspension.
again it is all academmic and often down to the driver(s).
I beat a flat front 911 several times in a london traffic light GP a few years back in a pretty stock UK MY99 scoob, do i think the scoob a faster car, no, not really, i would put it down the the driver who made a half hearted effort or was maybe running in a new engine or maybe just did not want to play that day.
That just it. Yes more torque means better acceleration from low revs but likewise a ctr driver could pull alongside, drop a cog and leave the oil burner in its tracks but thats a pointless comparison.
In an even race there is no way a ctr would get left standing by a 210bhp diesel so why bother with such stories. Gets my goat when someone with no posts jumps on a thread spouting guff like that.
Simon
In an even race there is no way a ctr would get left standing by a 210bhp diesel so why bother with such stories. Gets my goat when someone with no posts jumps on a thread spouting guff like that.
Simon
That just it. Yes more torque means better acceleration from low revs but likewise a ctr driver could pull alongside, drop a cog and leave the oil burner in its tracks but thats a pointless comparison.
In an even race there is no way a ctr would get left standing by a 210bhp diesel so why bother with such stories. Gets my goat when someone with no posts jumps on a thread spouting guff like that.
Simon
In an even race there is no way a ctr would get left standing by a 210bhp diesel so why bother with such stories. Gets my goat when someone with no posts jumps on a thread spouting guff like that.
Simon
Through the midrange 40-110 I it was even more impressive I would use 4th to 100mph from 40. It was as quick as car's with 30% more power thanks to the torque.
Sadly, without spending a lot of money, it struggled to go around a bend. Capable enough on the road, but on the track I was left behind, just me and my epic understeer.
We parted company in 2006.
interesting thread as i have a new CDTi SRi astra and ive owned a few imprezas.
very different cars.
in my honest opinion, the CDTi with tuning box is ok for what it is. i dont thik its anything special power wise though... its a kind of power thats nopt quite enough and makes you want more
mpg isnt too bad, ive never ever got over 42.9 in mine and thats on a long motorway run.
there a very stylish car in my opinion and i luv mine to look at, but coming from an impreza too a diesel i think has made me not appreciate what there about and now im switching back to an impreza
dont expect miricles from there hehe, and i dont really see where all these slaying victories come from as alot of cars are quicker... in my opinion i dont see how the cdti astra with tuning box would be quicker than a CTR... sorry!
thats all personal opinion too, as i mentioned i own one and luv it (well the looks)
very different cars.
in my honest opinion, the CDTi with tuning box is ok for what it is. i dont thik its anything special power wise though... its a kind of power thats nopt quite enough and makes you want more

mpg isnt too bad, ive never ever got over 42.9 in mine and thats on a long motorway run.
there a very stylish car in my opinion and i luv mine to look at, but coming from an impreza too a diesel i think has made me not appreciate what there about and now im switching back to an impreza

dont expect miricles from there hehe, and i dont really see where all these slaying victories come from as alot of cars are quicker... in my opinion i dont see how the cdti astra with tuning box would be quicker than a CTR... sorry!
thats all personal opinion too, as i mentioned i own one and luv it (well the looks)
I attended a tuner GP in a 190hp Fabia vRS. Amongst the challenges were 0-60, 1/4 mile and track time. I comfortably matched the type R's mid 6 second 0-60 and 15 second 1/4 mile, although I was slowed down my changing gear lots.
Through the midrange 40-110 I it was even more impressive I would use 4th to 100mph from 40. It was as quick as car's with 30% more power thanks to the torque.
Sadly, without spending a lot of money, it struggled to go around a bend. Capable enough on the road, but on the track I was left behind, just me and my epic understeer.
We parted company in 2006.
Through the midrange 40-110 I it was even more impressive I would use 4th to 100mph from 40. It was as quick as car's with 30% more power thanks to the torque.
Sadly, without spending a lot of money, it struggled to go around a bend. Capable enough on the road, but on the track I was left behind, just me and my epic understeer.
We parted company in 2006.
This is what I would expect in a straight line. Unlike the previous poster who said a CTR was left standing.
In regard to the midrange test - are you saying that your 40-110 was faster than a CTR going through the gears (genuine question)?
Simon
Simon.
The reply was in response to your comment about telling stories etc. It was a genuine post to relay my own experience of performance diesel v performance petrol.
The Fabia weighs around 1315kg's, more than the Civic and fractionally less than the Astra in question.
With the aggressive custom RICA [http://www.rica.nl/] remap I can honestly say my car was quicker through the midrange, enough to be helpful on the road but probably only half to a whole car length in racing conditions.
The reply was in response to your comment about telling stories etc. It was a genuine post to relay my own experience of performance diesel v performance petrol.
The Fabia weighs around 1315kg's, more than the Civic and fractionally less than the Astra in question.
With the aggressive custom RICA [http://www.rica.nl/] remap I can honestly say my car was quicker through the midrange, enough to be helpful on the road but probably only half to a whole car length in racing conditions.
If the CTR and the Furby were going through the gears then I cannot see anyway the Skoda would win. Stick it in 1 gear and flooring it is another matter.
Fecking oil burners - yes they're good at what they do, some are even fast (but boring and uninvolving), but they're still sh1te.
i drive the P1 3-4 times a week and then my other diesel for the rest of the time.
i had a vauxhall cavalier many years ago, truly awful car for handling, but this astra was pretty good. only thing that bothers me is the huge depreciation.
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