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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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like this you mean? (from the link i posted up)

French Agriculture Minister Louis Le Pensec said on Monday that Paris was planning a bill to rid the country of pitbull dogs, France Info radio reported.
The bill would "ban the breeding, sale and importation of pitbull-type dogs so that they die out in France within seven years" , it said.
Current owners would have to register their dogs with the local authorities, make them wear muzzles and have them trained in clubs.


why wasnt it done here? we wouldnt have any Pit Bulls now
Maybe it wasn't done here because it was just a token law, a bit like banning fox hunting....wins votes but does does fck all in practice? Or maybe am I just being cynical?

I was at a house party last night sunday night where two pit bulls were being kept, I'm honestly thinking of ringing the police to report them.

ps yes the owner was a ****, punched a 17 yr lad in the back of the head during the party lol, cool
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gatecrasher3
Not all people. But those that do are the ones that shouldn't have them.
Good point...but the vast majority can really handle themselves...I think the combination of the pitbulls and the high state of toughness of the owners is a dangerous combination.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CC
Maybe it wasn't done here because it was just a token law, a bit like banning fox hunting....wins votes but does does fck all in practice? Or maybe am I just being cynical?

I was at a house party last night sunday night where two pit bulls were being kept, I'm honestly thinking of ringing the police to report them.

ps yes the owner was a ****, punched a 17 yr lad in the back of the head during the party lol, cool
if i know someone that owned one i would report them, wouldnt think twice
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
Fine by me. I've always considered dog owners a bit weird - you basically have 2 kinds.

a) The type who lets their dog **** everywhere and leaves it where it is for others to step in.
b) The type who cleans up after their dog.

Type a) are inconsiderate tw@ts wo don't give a fvck about anyone else, and type b) are people who enjoy walking around with a bag of warm faeces in their coat pocket.

Bloody weird either way.
There is also c), Norman.

As in the owners who can train their dog to poo in the garden

Cat owners are weirder. Whats the point of a pet that you can't control or train to do anthing?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
There is also c), Norman.

As in the owners who can train their dog to poo in the garden

Cat owners are weirder. Whats the point of a pet that you can't control?
cats are cool, they **** in everyone elses garden
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
Especially those irritating little yappy things

theyre not dogs, they are just big rats, SS has one
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
its not the owners necessarily, the breed cannot be trusted

there is no valid reason for owning one
apart from the fact some people like them! so they have a valid reason for wanting to own one!

bulldogs have the same type of locking jaw, so should they be banned??? Rotties/alsations/mastiffs etc are very big and powerfull so should they be banned????
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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EVERY DOG CAN LOCK JAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its just people think only staffies and pitbulls can do it due to their head size to body weight ratio which allows them to cling onto something whilst the rest of the body is dangling in the air.

If a pitbull attacks you go for its *****, if its a bitch stick you finger in its bumhole. It will soon let go
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by B9GLY
apart from the fact some people like them! so they have a valid reason for wanting to own one!

bulldogs have the same type of locking jaw, so should they be banned??? Rotties/alsations/mastiffs etc are very big and powerfull so should they be banned????
Agree 100% and you are the only person on here on my wavelength.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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I bet Sarattention Deficit's dog is appallingly behaved and very badly trained.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mark engers
I bet Sarattention Deficit's dog is appallingly behaved and very badly trained.


I bet you're running out of monikers.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
If a pitbull attacks you go for its *****, if its a bitch stick you finger in its bumhole. It will soon let go
A bit like humans then
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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should these be outlawed too ? as some people seem to think they are the same dog



same dog different pic



I must admit when he 1st turned up on our doorstep a month ago, i was slightly cautious and wary of him, and my next door neighbour even retired into his house when he saw him

I relaxed my guard slightly when he looked like he wasnt too good, tail between legs, shivering, cowering, shaking, limping, and all his ribs showing

a month with us, and a few trips to the vets, and he is a lovely dog, still wouldnt leave him alone with the kids, but he hasnt really stopped wagging his tail, since his first bowl of food
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Have to be careful with all dogs to an extent.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
its not the owners necessarily, the breed cannot be trusted

there is no valid reason for owning one
There's no valid reason for owning many breeds dog yet people still do.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
there are not many breeds of dog that can be trained to kill and as the Pit has jaws that lock onto something and cant be relased till the dog is unconcious or dead i think this almost puts them in a class of their own
Nonsense. There are many dogs that can be training to harm other animals and people. That is not unique to Pitbulls.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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The Pit Bull gets banned the 'well ard' brigade move on to something else, Rotties, Dobermans, Alsations, then those dogs get mistreated and trained into mauling people so they get banned as well. It will end up with only dogs like Sara's allowed, so they will improvise, ten really bad tempered Chihuahua's gaffer taped together ?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mark engers
Now it's time to also outlaw Staffordshire Bull Terriers and other such dogs that are effectively used as accessories, 'man bags' if you will, flaunted in order to make the owner seem hard in front of his peers.
They are no more used as "man bags" as Subaru's are. Both of which are dangerous in the wrong hands.

I am the proud owner of living proof that Staffies can be loyal, loving and obedient. Please don't pigeon hole the whole breed as dangerous and worthy of being banned.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gatecrasher3
They are no more used as "man bags" as Subaru's are. Both of which are dangerous in the wrong hands.


Says the dog toting Subaru driver! Tell me, do you have a shaved head? Goatee? Little man syndrome?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mark engers


Says the dog toting Subaru driver! Tell me, do you have a shaved head? Goatee? Little man syndrome?
I think you may have missed the irony of my post
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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cant be bothered to read through all the usual stupid comments that have no doubt been already left.

in my opionion, you should have to have a licence to hold a dog period, for this you must prove you are able to keep and train the animal safely.

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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gatecrasher3
Nonsense. There are many dogs that can be training to harm other animals and people. That is not unique to Pitbulls.
agreed, but not with the same mentality

because the breed has been abused for many years now, the tempermant of the Pit today isnt the same as it used to be. all the dangerous traits have been bred into them
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Originally Posted by gatecrasher3
I think you may have missed the irony of my post
Spare us the theatrics, are you a short, fat, balding subaru driver with testosterone enhancing dogs or are you just crap at sarcasm?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
should these be outlawed too ? as some people seem to think they are the same dog





Well, to be fair he is sporting 'satan eyes', even if they they are blue.

So, on 'balance of probabilities' I would have say yes - he's a devil dog.

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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
its not the owners necessarily, the breed cannot be trusted

there is no valid reason for owning one

Originally Posted by sarasquares
there are not many breeds of dog that can be trained to kill and as the Pit has jaws that lock onto something and cant be relased till the dog is unconcious or dead i think this almost puts them in a class of their own
Originally Posted by sarasquares
because the breed has been abused for many years now, the tempermant of the Pit today isnt the same as it used to be. all the dangerous traits have been bred into them
you talk nothing but mis-informed ****e sara!

get a grip.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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you have posted up quotes but not the reason i quoted them.
i have no problem with a 'certain' type of dog. in fact i owned a staff for eight years but had to give her up for her own safety. she was stolen from me twice. she went to a member from here, Luan Pra Bang. he has had her for nearly 3 years. what i am saying is that the Pit Bulls these days have been bred to be a certain way by irresponsible dog owners. you cant be sure of what you are getting.....
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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responsible people breed dogs for good temperament, what do you think Pit Bulls desirable traits are to the wrong people?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Well, to be fair he is sporting 'satan eyes', even if they they are blue.

So, on 'balance of probabilities' I would have say yes - he's a devil dog.


LOL the funny thing about that pic, is that he was actually panting as he had just been running round the living room like a loon, knocking everything over with his wagging tail
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
There is also c), Norman.

As in the owners who can train their dog to poo in the garden
Well thats surreal. WTF you on about Willis ?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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this thread is stupid..... you cannot out law a breed of dog.... that would be like outlawing black people(just a ref. i am not racist) which is idiotic... just depends on how you raise them... but banning them because they are genetically superior and are born strong.... stupid....i have a german shepherd and he is a sweetheart.... but the police use them because they are superior attack dogs, should it be allowed to ban him... NO. i blame that poor girls grandmother, she should have been looking after the girl....


oh yea, and another thing.... screw the french.....

blah, blah, blah, would be speaking german, blah ,blah, blah...ungrateful frog eaters, blah, blah, blah!

your friendly, outspoken American.
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