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Old 19 November 2006, 10:59 AM
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Whatever happened to:

Hearsay
Michelle McManus
One True Voice
Steve Brookstein

At this rate the current X Factor winner will be joining that list.

The problem is trying to combine a talent competition with a popularity competition.
Old 19 November 2006, 11:01 AM
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Wasn't Lemar on the BBC version?
Old 19 November 2006, 11:03 AM
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Lemar was on Fame academy.

I'd still say Will Young has had the best career out of any talent show winners.
Old 19 November 2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by powerwrx
this performance should have seen him through to the finals...fantastic.....
Old 19 November 2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Tang
Whatever happened to:

Hearsay
Michelle McManus
One True Voice
Steve Brookstein

At this rate the current X Factor winner will be joining that list.

The problem is trying to combine a talent competition with a popularity competition.
I think she eventually burst due to an overdose of donuts.

HTH
Old 19 November 2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tam the bam
I think she eventually burst due to an overdose of donuts.

HTH
She was in the papers recently, saying how she's lost half her body weight.

She's a featherweight 16 stone now
Old 19 November 2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby_matt
She was in the papers recently, saying how she's lost half her body weight.

She's a featherweight 16 stone now
Famous for being fat, but not singing. What a great talent show!!

Don't get me started on people like Jade Goodey!!!
Old 19 November 2006, 08:25 PM
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i live near kim marsh's mum and dad met her once when i was younger wasnt that nice. well look at steve brookstein where's he now 2 years later? and the only reason ray is still in is because he was in brookside he aint that good!
Old 19 November 2006, 08:54 PM
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From what little i saw of the show, it never seems to be about the singers skills or talant anyway.

Life stories about dead sisters etc have little bearing on their ability to sing IMO
Old 20 November 2006, 01:54 AM
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I reckon not winning it is a better dea lthan winning. The poor winner's got to work with whichever boring production line songwriters that their X factor judge saddles them with. The runners up get the benefit of the exposure, then get to go andsort their own deals out.

PS: I've got more singing talent in my little finger than Eton Road & the McDonuts combined and as MrsD would no doubt testify, I can't sing for sh!te
Old 20 November 2006, 07:24 AM
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The X Factor (UK) is a device purely for making Mr Cowell more money - and for that I applaud him. Never used to like him, but I've had chance to "get where he's coming from"....

Since 2001, there has been a "phone-vote" number one on or around Christmas. The main blips have been Bob the Builder, and Band Aid 200x. (This includes Hearsay in Spring time)

But if you think about the concept, they've taken the whole risk of releasing a single by an unkown. The market is in place, waiting with baited breath, to buy the song that they like best!!
Most of the money isn't made off the singles - it's the merchandise and the X Factor tour, that they all sign up to. Again, the market is already in place.....

A proper case of "build it and they will come"

Genius.
Old 20 November 2006, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Tang
Whatever happened to:

Hearsay
Michelle McManus
One True Voice
Steve Brookstein

At this rate the current X Factor winner will be joining that list.

The problem is trying to combine a talent competition with a popularity competition.
Steve Brookstein - heard that he did his first album with Simon, and it did pretty well apparently as his fame was quite strong. Then, apparently, Simon said that the stuff he was writing himself was not good enough and he should do a collection of covers for the second album. Then, SB kicked off and said no-way and quit Simco (SC's company) to go alone. And then faded into oblivion.

In my mind, he's an idiot. With someone like SC backing you, you have a far greater chance than with almost everybody else. To go alone is stupid.

And to the other poster who said SB is doing well for himself 'corporate gigs and the like' - woo... He did all this stuff and doing well is doing corporate gigs - do me a favour. He got cocky, felt he was better than he was, went alone and faded into nothing, riding on the back of his limited fame appeal.

Leona to win, without a doubt, although lets not forget it's governed by the gullible public and a certain amount of manipulation.

Always fun to see Kate telling people 'the lines have now closed' and within 3 seconds, she;s handed the results. Bugger me, is Steven Hawking's doing the sums to add up, then the worlds fastest writer putting them on a bit of card for her to read out! Blink amazing....
Old 20 November 2006, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mightyyid
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Always fun to see Kate telling people 'the lines have now closed' and within 3 seconds, she;s handed the results. Bugger me, is Steven Hawking's doing the sums to add up, then the worlds fastest writer putting them on a bit of card for her to read out! Blink amazing....
Especially as the're always "too close to call"........
Old 20 November 2006, 09:53 AM
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Complete theatre......

Simon 'hates' the Macdonalds, and we get the 'lets vote 'em in from all the Jocks' and the phone votes from Scotland alone must rake him in about £1M extra every week

Clever bloke, stupid public
Old 20 November 2006, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
Don't watch it as can't stand Kate Thronton......but she is soon to be replaced by Vernon Kaye
Same here! Can't stand the woman!!
Never watch the main show, just flick through the results show - which is more than enough!
Old 20 November 2006, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mightyyid
Always fun to see Kate telling people 'the lines have now closed' and within 3 seconds, she;s handed the results. Bugger me, is Steven Hawking's doing the sums to add up, then the worlds fastest writer putting them on a bit of card for her to read out! Blink amazing....
Ever heard of computers?

I doubt there is anything written on the card she is holding, it will all come through her earpiece.

The only person who should win this is Leona. Anyone else is a travesty. The final should be her and Ben, with her winning.

I didn't like Robert, he was too Frank Bruno, but I thought he was a good performer and singer, should have made it to the final.

To Scotland: Please stop voting for the Macdonald Brothers! They are ****e!

Geezer
Old 20 November 2006, 10:56 AM
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The show has lost it's way. I can't believe the "quality" of some of this years finalists
Old 20 November 2006, 11:22 AM
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I'd like to get teh average catchment of phone voters, line them up, and slap each one with a wet fish.

Not for who they voted, because they are stupid enough to actually pick up the phone and become the cash cow that x-factor was invented to be.
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