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Old 31 August 2006, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by G00ner
If I was in your situation (rich ) and also being sensible a new 535 Twin Turbo D Tourer with some nice wheels would be top of the list, it's probably the most capable car ever designed, it literally does everyhing you want.
Except ride properly!
Old 31 August 2006, 08:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure a new 5 would ride better than some of the cars that Deep has had previously.

I took one out and the ride was better than my Legacy or the RS6 I drove a few days before, the torque was amazing and the obviously well thrashed demo car was showing 33mpg.
Depreciation would be better than most too if it's an oil burning estate.
Old 31 August 2006, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
So thats a bugatti veyron then
I wouldn't try putting a tankful of diesel in one of those !
Old 31 August 2006, 08:14 PM
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Thanks for the info. I was just a little thrown by the fact the RS6 didn't have a mfsw, its no big deal really its just that my 5 year old merc has it.

Hi Ed. I've been f8cking around for ages trying to make my mind up. I think its always more difficult when you can't afford the car/s you really want but still have to spend a shed load on what is ultimately a compromise. How are you finding the new car?

Hi Shane. A 535D MS Touring is very tempting, especially with a DMS chip! Its just that 450 BHP, 4wd and better interior of the RS6 is also tempting. Whens the big day then?
Old 31 August 2006, 09:02 PM
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Hi Deep,

Next September, but I'm marrying a girl whose parents have no money, so I've got to pay for her half and she wants a big wedding.

If I had the money and I was being fairly practical it would be the RS4 Tourer hands down, but being sensible the 535D Tourer would tick all my boxes.

Not many other cars could take you across continents at 100mph+ in total comfort whilst still returning 35mpg, with all your family, a boot full of luggage, be entertaining to drive and be on the good side of 40k.

Anyway back to reality, the Legacy suits my needs so it'll have to do unless that RS6 knocks on my door again.
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Originally Posted by G00ner
If I had the money and I was being fairly practical it would be the RS4 Tourer hands down, but being sensible the 535D Tourer would tick all my boxes.

Not many other cars could take you across continents at 100mph+ in total comfort whilst still returning 35mpg, with all your family, a boot full of luggage, be entertaining to drive and be on the good side of 40k.
Total comfort? Have you driven one? Passat estate would be more comfortable and give better fuel economy. No barge is going to be that much outright 'fun' in my opinion.
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Yes I've driven one and yes it was comfortable, what do you drive in comparison? a Bentley?

0-60 in 6.5 seconds and Max torque (Nm/rpm) 560/2000 and 35mpg.

What else could you load up with 5 people plus luggage and get those performance/economy figures?

Who wants a Passat estate if you can afford better? I could do my job in a 10 year old Astra estate, doesn't mean I want to own one.

I believe Deep would probably like something practical for during the week whilst working, but also capable of doing family stuff at the weekends whilst still being entertaining to drive.
Old 01 September 2006, 05:59 PM
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Shane, tell the missus you're getting married in the local pub hall with a finger buffet( I'll provide the samosas) and a few close friends and then buy the car you want.

Seriously though, I have heard the ride on the 5 is a little harsh for that class of car, but I suppose I'll have to drive it and find out. What did you think of the interior of the 5? It feels/looks a little cheap for an 'executive' car to me
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Shane, tell the missus you're getting married in the local pub hall with a finger buffet( I'll provide the samosas) and a few close friends and then buy the car you want.

Seriously though, I have heard the ride on the 5 is a little harsh for that class of car, but I suppose I'll have to drive it and find out. What did you think of the interior of the 5? It feels/looks a little cheap for an 'executive' car to me
Drive it Deep, it costs nothing to test drive, I could be way off the mark compared to how you would find it, it's all comparative.

Somosas greatfully accepted, can you pack them with green chillies so that they have some heat, I know you Brits can't handle the heat, but I love it
Old 02 September 2006, 07:54 PM
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Is it true the RS6 weighs 2.4 tonnes??

Doesn't a M5 weigh about 1750kgs? Thats a big difference for same size of car.
Old 02 September 2006, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Is it true the RS6 weighs 2.4 tonnes??

Doesn't a M5 weigh about 1750kgs? Thats a big difference for same size of car.
but I think it weighs 1865kg so just over 100ks more then the 5 (although thats still a fair bit)
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On the tech specs it is listed as weighing 1840kg

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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Is it true the RS6 weighs 2.4 tonnes??

Doesn't a M5 weigh about 1750kgs? Thats a big difference for same size of car.



its around 1840kg
Old 02 September 2006, 08:06 PM
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With a milltek exhaust and remap the RS6 will have the same power to weight ratio as the new M5.

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Originally Posted by banny sti
With a milltek exhaust and remap the RS6 will have the same power to weight ratio as the new M5.

banny

Which would be faster?
Old 02 September 2006, 08:26 PM
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M5 due to its gearbox. New RS6 is gonna spank it silly though.
Old 02 September 2006, 08:30 PM
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A Tuned RS6 will have a slight edge over the M5 but then a tuned M5 will have the edge again.

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Originally Posted by AudiLover
M5 due to its gearbox. New RS6 is gonna spank it silly though.

I am puzzled BMW's claim that the new M5 is capable of 200mph! Somehow I doubt it
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
I am puzzled BMW's claim that the new M5 is capable of 200mph! Somehow I doubt it
Why not? Show your workings!
Old 02 September 2006, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
Why not? Show your workings!
Not enough power, not aerodynamic enough. Any car can get to 170+ with relatively modest bhp i.e 350-400. Above that it really becomes a struggle and IMHO the M5 would need at least in the excess of 600bhp to even dream of topping 200mph.
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I thought the M5 was meant to be super aerodynamic? Thre is a video of one doing around 200mph on the autobahn though
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
I thought the M5 was meant to be super aerodynamic? Thre is a video of one doing around 200mph on the autobahn though

It's still a big boxy saloon that weighs the thick end of two tonnes.
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Weight doesn't even come into it. I don't know if it goes 200mph, but I can imagine it being close
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Originally Posted by TopBanana
Weight doesn't even come into it. I don't know if it goes 200mph, but I can imagine it being close

A few years ago two companies set a target of toppping 200mph in a Sapphire Cossy. Collins and Turbo Systems, both cars had nigh on 600 bhp but neither got close to the mark. The driver commented that both cars got to 170 very quickly but after that there was little to come. Now unless someone actually test drives a standard M5 at 200mph I will take that claim with a pinch of salt.


Sorry for the hijack Deep!
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Only recently with over 750bhp Rod Tarry hit 200mph in his Sapphire Cosworth. I remember that article both cars got just over 175mph and hit an aerodynamic brickwall.

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Originally Posted by banny sti
Only recently with over 800bhp Rod Tarry hit 200mph in his Sapphire Cosworth. I remember that article both cars got just over 175mph and hit a aerodynamic brickwall.

banny

AN aerodynamic brick wall!
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yeah but those tuner cars for most part usually do end up running out of steam around 180mph for some reason. I shall look for the video.
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here we go 2 M6's at over 200mph. Couldnt find one of the M5, although the M5's top speed is rated at 2007mph Im sure it can run alongside these two beasts.

http://web.mac.com/ronan4/iWeb/Site/...0Autobahn.html
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I think someones RS6 did 199.8 (or something similar) at Bruntingthorpe too a while back. It was tuned admittedly but I think only to about 535bhp.

Certainly my standard RS6 on the autobahn last week, if you put your foot to the floor at around 140mph, it fires you into the limiter with ease. I think even bog standard it would hit 190mph. I just couldn't believe how effortless it was at 150mph. No wheel wobble, no vibration, no light steering, no 'floatyness'. Staggering.
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
M5 due to its gearbox. New RS6 is gonna spank it silly though.
Sorry but i'd still rather have the M5


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