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Old 16 July 2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Kiwi GTi what do you do for a living ?
What's the relevance?

and utter morons like Kiwi gti and Uncle buck should educate themselves by reading it.
Another loser unable to read things properly, or only read what they want to see. i have made no commentary on the Israel/Palestine situation, I made a comment on the Islam religion.

I don't like many of the worlds organised religions but I have a particular dislike for Islam because it is one of the most repressive and confrontational.
Old 16 July 2006, 12:22 PM
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Why let that influence you then peterpeter?

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Old 16 July 2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
What's the relevance?

I don't like many of the worlds organised religions but I have a particular dislike for Islam because it is one of the most repressive and confrontational.
Its relevent becuase I am interested in wether or not you have met any Muslims in your workplace and wether or not you discuss your hatred of Islam with them and also wether you carry your hatred of Islam into work and perhaps refuse to talk to Muslims.
Old 16 July 2006, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Its relevent becuase I am interested in wether or not you have met any Muslims in your workplace and wether or not you discuss your hatred of Islam with them and also wether you carry your hatred of Islam into work and perhaps refuse to talk to Muslims.
Being only 5 1' and not much to look at, i assume he doesnt have much choice in voicing his opinions in real life and has to make do with net forums.
Old 16 July 2006, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Its relevent becuase I am interested in wether or not you have met any Muslims in your workplace and wether or not you discuss your hatred of Islam with them and also wether you carry your hatred of Islam into work and perhaps refuse to talk to Muslims.
It;s not about individuals, it's about the religion. Worked with plenty of Muslims and I would not hesitate in voicing my opinions to them but at work it isn't usually appropriate and they don't tend to socialise that much.
Old 16 July 2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Drnaz_2000
Being only 5 1' and not much to look at, i assume he doesnt have much choice in voicing his opinions in real life and has to make do with net forums.
Don't see where I've started calling anyone names or being aggressive towards other members of the forum?

Peterpeter seems good at that.

Anyway no point in being anti-Muslim on this forum, usually brigade will come on and call you racist/bigotted etc. And if you are pro-Muslim on here you get the same treatment, as Moses will attest to.
Old 16 July 2006, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Don't see where I've started calling anyone names or being aggressive towards other members of the forum?

Peterpeter seems good at that.

Anyway no point in being anti-Muslim on this forum, usually brigade will come on and call you racist/bigotted etc. And if you are pro-Muslim on here you get the same treatment, as Moses will attest to.
no uve been a perfect gentleman(?).....assuming everyone with a particular religion is all the same. who can say if u werent born n bought up in the middle east living the life (if u can call it that) that they do, u wudnt be firing a rocket (on either side ) right now. Unless uve lived there and know what ur talking about stop putting everyone into the same basket. We are all human and respond to the environment we are put it.
Old 16 July 2006, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Don't see where I've started calling anyone names or being aggressive towards other members of the forum?

Peterpeter seems good at that.

Anyway no point in being anti-Muslim on this forum, usually brigade will come on and call you racist/bigotted etc. And if you are pro-Muslim on here you get the same treatment, as Moses will attest to.

My post wasnt meant to be aggressive...It was just an honest observation from someone who occasionally browses this forum and its noticable who the most ignorant and idiotic posts come from.

Its not just issues with muslims...your posts on lots of totally unrelated issues make you sound like a very ignorant and rather nasty person.

The 2 other people who really stand out are unclebuck. and pslewis
Old 16 July 2006, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpeter
My post wasnt meant to be aggressive...It was just an honest observation from someone who occasionally browses this forum and its noticable who the most ignorant and idiotic posts come from.

Its not just issues with muslims...your posts on lots of totally unrelated issues make you sound like a very ignorant and rather nasty person.

The 2 other people who really stand out are unclebuck. and pslewis

Retracted. See post 75.

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Old 16 July 2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpeter
Its not just issues with muslims...your posts on lots of totally unrelated issues make you sound like a very ignorant and rather nasty person.
Such as?
Old 16 July 2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Such as?

Begrudging those shot for dereliction of duty wrongly their posthumous pardons.
Old 16 July 2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Ah so you've met Kiwi, our resident sh*t stirring twerp.
Again, along with others you have to stoop to personal insults because you disagree with me.
Old 16 July 2006, 07:38 PM
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Stop squabbling! This isn't the Middle East you know
Old 16 July 2006, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Begrudging those shot for dereliction of duty wrongly their posthumous pardons.
Yes, although you know my justification for that argument. We shouldn't be apologising for things done 100 years ago - different time and place, learn and move one.

Incidentally if people let things in the past go then maybe the Israeli/Palestine conflict might not even exist.

Peterpeter , I can't let it lie, you are a jumped up prissy little turd. You basically spit the dummy with anyone that disagrees with you. I don't care if you are a cosmetic dentist, who earns more than 4x any of your doctor friends, or that you have a GT3 as well as an STI, or that you think that all the French are *******.

What kind of nasty little **** spouts that sort of rubbish. How small are your genitals?

People in glass houses etc.
Old 16 July 2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Again, along with others you have to stoop to personal insults because you disagree with me.

Again? Okay I retract my earlier statement and apologise. However you have a propensity for stoking fervour.

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Old 16 July 2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Yes, although you know my justification for that argument. We shouldn't be apologising for things done 100 years ago - different time and place, learn and move one.

Incidentally if people let things in the past go then maybe the Israeli/Palestine conflict might not even exist.

Peterpeter , I can't let it lie, you are a jumped up prissy little turd. You basically spit the dummy with anyone that disagrees with you. I don't care if you are a cosmetic dentist, who earns more than 4x any of your doctor friends, or that you have a GT3 as well as an STI, or that you think that all the French are *******.

What kind of nasty little **** spouts that sort of rubbish. How small are your genitals?

People in glass houses etc.
Hang on a minute! What was that about personal insults?
Old 16 July 2006, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoppy
Stop squabbling! This isn't the Middle East you know

Mate this is a discussion.
Old 16 July 2006, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Anyway no point in being anti-Muslim on this forum, usually brigade will come on and call you racist/bigotted etc. And if you are pro-Muslim on here you get the same treatment, as Moses will attest to.
I love it. It's a great way to wind up the leather elbowed guardian reading types and get them frothing at the mouth with their spite and bile. Great entertainment and it works everytime.

Thing is, I kind of got the impression that the muslims hate us - not the other way around. Still, as a racist biggot what would I know - I know I'm not permitted to have an opinion by the self appointed PC Thought Police.
Old 16 July 2006, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpeter
what a clear concise and truthful post.

That pretty much sums up the whole issue,

and utter morons like Kiwi gti and Uncle buck should educate themselves by reading it.

I occasionally drop in to this forum, but time and time again these two retards continue to make ill-formed dowright stupid comments about most issues they "contribute to".
And what old bollox do we have here? "I never post here but when I do I proclaim the right to be judge, jury AND execusioner too."

Sounds very muslim to me Off with the infidels heads

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Old 16 July 2006, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I love it. It's a great way to wind up the leather elbowed guardian reading types and get them frothing at the mouth with their spite and bile. Great entertainment and it works everytime.

Thing is, I kind of got the impression that the muslims hate us - not the other way around. Still, as a racist biggot what would I know - I know I'm not permitted to have an opinion by the self appointed PC Thought Police.
Oh come now UB! This muslim loves you.
Old 16 July 2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Hang on a minute! What was that about personal insults?
It was, until he threw the first insults, then a cursory search of his posts and you are hard pressed to find a non-car related one where he isn't abusive to someone or some group.
Old 16 July 2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
And old bollox do we have here? "I never post here but when I do I proclaim the right to be judge, jury AND execusioner too."

Sounds very muslim to me Off with the infidels heads
Ub go stand in the corner! 'Execusioner' do you mean executioner!
Old 17 July 2006, 11:08 AM
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I am not frightened to say it again. The Muslim religion does not advocate the sort of violence that has been committed in it's name. Those at fault are those evil so called leaders who use the religion to whip up a fervour that they can use for their own selfish ends by influencing the younger people. They don't personally strap suicide bombs to themselves it has to be mentioned. The others who are at faullt are those apparently peaceful religious leaders who do not do something positive to stop the atrocities and the twisted thinking.

Les

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Old 17 July 2006, 11:38 AM
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I am not frightened to say it again. The Muslim religion does not advocate the sort of violence that has been committed in it's name. Those at fault are those evil so called leaders who use the religion to whip up a fervour that they can use for their own selfish ends by influencing the younger people.
Yes it does, in fact the commonly used term "fundamentalist" is wrong, they are actually more correctly titled "literalists".

Taken literally the Koran explicitly condones violence and death to non-believers or infidels.

Of course I believe that the majority of Muslims are peaceful because of human nature, it is generally repugnant to kill or harm other human beings and I believe this is why we generally live in civilised groups. But that doesn't mean that deep down they don't believe Koran and silently support the literalists (OK , maybe not some of the real nutters) but are you telling me all Muslims wouldn't appreciate a global caliphate? (which is another thing that they are obliged to want as per the Koran)

Same thing stands for Judaism and Christianity, but by and large the worshippers of these religions have moved on, become civilised and separated politics from the religion.

Some interesting reading :

http://www.apostatesofislam.com

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Old 17 July 2006, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoppy
Stop squabbling! This isn't the Middle East you know
It's pro-Muslim v anti-Muslim - so quite like the current problems actually.

Maybe we can just let it play out here, see who wins, then tell the Israeli's and Hezbollah the result so they can avoid further bloodshed.
Old 17 July 2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Yes it does, in fact the commonly used term "fundamentalist" is wrong, they are actually more correctly titled "literalists".

Taken literally the Koran explicitly condones violence and death to non-believers or infidels.

Of course I believe that the majority of Muslims are peaceful because of human nature, it is generally repugnant to kill or harm other human beings and I believe this is why we generally live in civilised groups. But that doesn't mean that deep down they don't believe Koran and silently support the literalists (OK , maybe not some of the real nutters) but are you telling me all Muslims wouldn't appreciate a global caliphate? (which is another thing that they are obliged to want as per the Koran)

Same thing stands for Judaism and Christianity, but by and large the worshippers of these religions have moved on, become civilised and separated politics from the religion.
Agreed, nice way of putting it.
Old 17 July 2006, 01:53 PM
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As a quick aside to this argument, from the link previously, have a look at this to see how misguided some people can be. Talk about blind faith in the absence of evidence.

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Old 17 July 2006, 04:14 PM
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The USA will be staying out of this conflict, or will at least rely on diplomacy, because the military is over-extended. Forces are active in Iraq and Afganistan, Bush has put the National Guard on the Mexican border, and North Korea is a nuclear threat that can also put 300,000 artillary shells per hour on Seoul. Don't look for any saber-rattling from Washington.
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It's not something that we normally have to look for TBH
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Uncle Buck and Kiwi GTi's opinions might be a tad harsh, but answer me this question:

For a person living in Britain right now, what is the single biggest threat to their existance and way of life?

Answer: Muslim extremism

Now that ain't right.

Dave




Originally Posted by peterpeter
what a clear concise and truthful post.

That pretty much sums up the whole issue,

and utter morons like Kiwi gti and Uncle buck should educate themselves by reading it.

I occasionally drop in to this forum, but time and time again these two retards continue to make ill-formed dowright stupid comments about most issues they "contribute to".


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