Same sex fostering is OK then?
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
and then the paedos saw this, (most of whom are gay)
Where is your proof for this assertion?
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IMO (if i'm still allowed an opinion in this PC day and age) being gay is a lifestyle choice. It used to be illegal in the UK, as was reflected by the will of the people, and by the people who make our laws. Other deviant practices such as sh@gging children etc, are (thank god) still illegal. A lot of people still find gay people abhorrant, and would rather it was still criminalised. Just because some liberal lefties think they should be allowed to do anything they like, doesn't mean its right or that everyone else wants that.
Its everyones choice at the end of the day, if people want to be gay then fine - at least its legal in 2006. But IMO it's only one step away from being a paedo, I mean look at the Pitcairn Islands where the population thinks it's fine to sh@g their kids.
It's all a matter of where you draw the line, and what practices you allow/disallow by law.
IMO gays/lesbians should not be allowed to foster/adopt kids. If you don't like me having an opinion then tough $hit.
Its everyones choice at the end of the day, if people want to be gay then fine - at least its legal in 2006. But IMO it's only one step away from being a paedo, I mean look at the Pitcairn Islands where the population thinks it's fine to sh@g their kids.
It's all a matter of where you draw the line, and what practices you allow/disallow by law.
IMO gays/lesbians should not be allowed to foster/adopt kids. If you don't like me having an opinion then tough $hit.
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Originally Posted by Iwan
being gay is a lifestyle choice.
Simply incorrect. I *know* that pisses on your parade, and for that I'm sorry, but as I've said a few times now, it's factually incorrect. You can base opinions on your beliefs - everybody does - but just be aware that the premise on which you're basing them is fundamentally flawed.
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I think it is disgusting.
I have been reading some research that states that ALL incestuous child abuse is carried out by parents or other close adults in the family.
IT'S SIMPLY DISGUSTING I SAY.
I think there should be a law immediately banning ALL ADULTS from being near children. Anyone can see that it makes complete sense and if you don't you are either a complete **** or an IMBECILE.
Even worse for every homosexual incestuous act there are tens if not hundreds of heterosexual ones. I think all heterosexual couples should be banned too - it is completely obvious if you look at the disgusting statistics.
I have been reading some research that states that ALL incestuous child abuse is carried out by parents or other close adults in the family.
IT'S SIMPLY DISGUSTING I SAY.
I think there should be a law immediately banning ALL ADULTS from being near children. Anyone can see that it makes complete sense and if you don't you are either a complete **** or an IMBECILE.
Even worse for every homosexual incestuous act there are tens if not hundreds of heterosexual ones. I think all heterosexual couples should be banned too - it is completely obvious if you look at the disgusting statistics.
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Posting such rubbish really weakens an already poor argument.
Where is your proof for this assertion?
Where is your proof for this assertion?
lol i was just egging people on at the time. I was bored.
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
deleted as i have just realised UB is having a laugh....hence sensible debate is pointless.
However, there is a serious underlying issue here. These gays were clearly grooming hetrosexual boys for gay sex (showing them **** etc) and no doubt trying to explain that it was 'normal' behaviour (ring any bells?) which it clearly isn't. Surely this is the problem with same sex adoption, it will lead to the corrupting of young minds, whether intended or not.
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Originally Posted by vagepaster
Maybe those that shout the loudest have the most to hide.
Just because the facts don't agree with your wooly limp wristed view of the world there's no need to get bitchy.
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I think it is reasonable to assume that small boys are less safe living with male homosexuals than a heterosexual couple. And yes I know there are cases of abuse from heterosexuals. I think it is wrong to allow homosexuals to adopt children.
I have to say that the thought of the male homsexual sex act is unnatural, and totally abhorrent. That is their affair however.
Yes I have good friends who are homosexual but they get on with their own lives without forcing it on others, like what always used to happen.
Les
I have to say that the thought of the male homsexual sex act is unnatural, and totally abhorrent. That is their affair however.
Yes I have good friends who are homosexual but they get on with their own lives without forcing it on others, like what always used to happen.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I think it is reasonable to assume that small boys are less safe living with male homosexuals
So would a small girl be less safe with a hetrosexual man?
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Simply incorrect. I *know* that pisses on your parade, and for that I'm sorry, but as I've said a few times now, it's factually incorrect. You can base opinions on your beliefs - everybody does - but just be aware that the premise on which you're basing them is fundamentally flawed.
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Originally Posted by Iwan
I also believe people of that persuasion should be in jail.
lol...why? punishment or protection of other men?
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Putting aside the rights or wrongs of gays fostering.....what a whalke of a time these guys are going to have in Armley Prison Leeds...they will get the living crap kicked out of them on a daily basis!!
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I know I'm a whacked out hippy - but frankly we should spend less time worrying about people loving each other in this world and more time worrying about people hating each other.
Homosexuality absolutely does not equal paedophillia.
Consenting adults should be free to love whomever they choose in this life - it's crappy enough as it is without letting other people's predjudices dictate how you should or shouldn't live.
Sick idiots like the ones at the start of the thread get the thousands of decent homosexual couples in this world a bad name. Just like a few psychos in Scoobs get the rest of us a bad name.
Homosexuality absolutely does not equal paedophillia.
Consenting adults should be free to love whomever they choose in this life - it's crappy enough as it is without letting other people's predjudices dictate how you should or shouldn't live.
Sick idiots like the ones at the start of the thread get the thousands of decent homosexual couples in this world a bad name. Just like a few psychos in Scoobs get the rest of us a bad name.
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Originally Posted by Anne Robinson
Chip, do your research. Really. I *know* you're a lifelong gay-basher, but you're simply unaware of the facts.
Chip
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I know I'm a whacked out hippy - but frankly we should spend less time worrying about people loving each other in this world and more time worrying about people hating each other.
Homosexuality absolutely does not equal paedophillia.
Homosexuality absolutely does not equal paedophillia.
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Id say paedophiles have a more convincing case seeing as god intended children to be able to bear children around the age of 12, and scientist say the best age for a woman to reproduce is at about 15.
which means blokes looking at 18 year olds in Nuts and Zoo are the ones a short step from paedovile and not the bloke that wants to get into Tom Crusies pants!
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That's the point though, where do you draw the line? If lots of people start thinking that way then laws get changed and suddenly 10 years down the line it's fine for someone to sh@g a child, then bleat about it on a motoring forum saying it's perfectly normal and that everyone else is wrong.
I'm not a bible basher in any sense, but I really don't like the way the laws are slowly sliding to favour the liberal side of society.
I'm not a bible basher in any sense, but I really don't like the way the laws are slowly sliding to favour the liberal side of society.
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i think the point has been missed here, does anyone think of the implications of the child at school with "gay parents"? talk about being singled out for bullying at school. surely thats a good enough reason not to let gays, foster/adopt or even surrogate for that mater. think about the child first
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Things do seem to be gayed up these days, I reckon its all the ladies taking the pill and pissing Oestroegen into the water, its been proven that sperm counts are getting lower and ********* smaller so perhaps an imbalance of hormones could contribute ?
Anyway, all people should be given rights regardless of their sexual orientation, no more, no less, all people are individuals and there is the chance that anybody could be a paedophile regardless of race, religion, colour or persuasion. They say that people who were abused themselves are more likely to abuse so perhaps ban all victims of abuse from adopting.
Some men like men, some ladies like ladies, get over it, its a fact of life, they arent going to stop botting because it offends your sensibilites, perhaps your interaction with ladies abhors them as much as their activities do you, perhaps best not to think about it is the answer !
Anyway, wouldnt one of the benefits of being gay be, no kids and loads of money ?
J4CKO, skint and straight, 3 kids !
Anyway, all people should be given rights regardless of their sexual orientation, no more, no less, all people are individuals and there is the chance that anybody could be a paedophile regardless of race, religion, colour or persuasion. They say that people who were abused themselves are more likely to abuse so perhaps ban all victims of abuse from adopting.
Some men like men, some ladies like ladies, get over it, its a fact of life, they arent going to stop botting because it offends your sensibilites, perhaps your interaction with ladies abhors them as much as their activities do you, perhaps best not to think about it is the answer !
Anyway, wouldnt one of the benefits of being gay be, no kids and loads of money ?
J4CKO, skint and straight, 3 kids !
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i think the point has been missed here, does anyone think of the implications of the child at school with "gay parents"? talk about being singled out for bullying at school. surely thats a good enough reason not to let gays, foster/adopt or even surrogate for that mater. think about the child first
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Besides why do we refer to them as 'gay'???.....are they supposedly happy people?....All the gays I have come across have been ranged from confused to major personality disorder...rather than happy/gay...
Why do we not use the term homosexual.....is it because homos dont like being called that?..if not..why is that?....not comfy with being homos?....
Why do we not use the term homosexual.....is it because homos dont like being called that?..if not..why is that?....not comfy with being homos?....
#83
In don't think the issue is whether homosexual men are or are not inclined towards paedophilia individualy. My concern is what precisely motivates two homosexual men to want to foster/adopt a male child? The equation is just plain worrying.
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Consenting adults should be free to love whomever they choose in this life - it's crappy enough as it is without letting other people's predjudices dictate how you should or shouldn't live.
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Consenting adults should be free to love whomever they choose in this life - it's crappy enough as it is without letting other people's predjudices dictate how you should or shouldn't live.
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Well its the Homosexuals who have "Gay Pride" and stuff like that, the parades etc so why not call them Gay if thats how they (or at least some/most) wish to be refered as, saying that why should you refer to them as anything apart from just another person who has different desires to you or I (well maybe just me then )
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Originally Posted by FASTER MIKE!!
i think the point has been missed here, does anyone think of the implications of the child at school with "gay parents"? talk about being singled out for bullying at school. surely thats a good enough reason not to let gays, foster/adopt or even surrogate for that mater. think about the child first
so where do you draw that line?
kids with disabled parents? kids with short parents? ugly parents?
dont let people with funny hair have kids because school mates will take the ****?
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I just saw the socal services bod on the bbc news. I could have strangled the naiive stupid c unt.
I would say that social services employees present the biggest single danger to the health of needy children.
I would say that social services employees present the biggest single danger to the health of needy children.
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If he is paedophiliac then I would say yes Snug Rhino.
I agree with Iwan and Suresh here. Standards have been encouraged to slip downwards during NL's rule and it is doing this country major harm. The Social Services are an abject failure.
Les
I agree with Iwan and Suresh here. Standards have been encouraged to slip downwards during NL's rule and it is doing this country major harm. The Social Services are an abject failure.
Les
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Originally Posted by FASTER MIKE!!
i think the point has been missed here, does anyone think of the implications of the child at school with "gay parents"? talk about being singled out for bullying at school. surely thats a good enough reason not to let gays, foster/adopt or even surrogate for that mater. think about the child first
good point, same goes with disabled parents etc, think of the children
its amazing there's so many idiots on this forum. I mean even people like Les who appears to be a caring sensitive old chap thinks that it dangerous for gay men to foster boys. I mean some people are just SO stupid..
ps - bet they'll drop the soap in prison..
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Only on scoobynet can you get a load of socially engineered sheep bleating for gay rights yet strangely not one of them confesses to being gay despite it being apparently 'normal'....
Give it 10 years and the same automatons will be croning on about nonces rights "they don't choose to be that way blah blah" "in the animal kingdom adults try to hump juveniles blah blah"
Give it 10 years and the same automatons will be croning on about nonces rights "they don't choose to be that way blah blah" "in the animal kingdom adults try to hump juveniles blah blah"