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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
tell me who knows best mr sabaru who puts a i/c spray in the sti ra or you lot

Go on Pete fresh meat! Who is this Mr.Sabaru??
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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RA: LOL, never read it like that!

No, maybe ENTERTAINING his wit (I think) , but in danger of getting lambasted for even thinking about mods to my competition Impreza.

Standard cars are great, but I have never owned a standard car other than Company Cars (one of which was a delightful MY99 UK Turbo) and they are much more fun than bog standard ....

Hope I'm not alone.....

Anyway, I drift off thread, and I promised myself I wouldn't do that again.

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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
if you lot use this site as a joke then why not read the beano
We use ***** like YOU as the joke ..... NOT the site!!!!

FPMSL!!

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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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cant talk for your self then einstein
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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why do they put the ic spray in the car then the cooler the intake the better
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
cant talk for your self then einstein
Look mate I do not want to get into a slanging match, believe me there are bigger fish in here. Don't take everything so seriously! Chill, laugh with us life is too short to be making foes on the internet! Pete is a ***** cat he likes his tummy tickling every now and again.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
RA: LOL, never read it like that!

No, maybe ENTERTAINING his wit (I think) , but in danger of getting lambasted for even thinking about mods to my competition Impreza.

Standard cars are great, but I have never owned a standard car other than Company Cars (one of which was a delightful MY99 UK Turbo) and they are much more fun than bog standard ....

Hope I'm not alone.....

Anyway, I drift off thread, and I promised myself I wouldn't do that again.

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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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people look on this site for information not as a joke all im saying is if subaru put the ic spray into there cars then its for a reason, maybe some of you like a tickle there again so do queers
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Homemade WRX
as a rough fact water can transfer heat a rate of 5 times that of air...so yes, you get cooler, denser air
Its actually 25 times that of air!(thats what i was taught on sea survival training)
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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another promising thread ruined by lewis.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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dont people usr sites like this to find out the facts maybe the nova lot have really taken over our subarus what a shame
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
people look on this site for information not as a joke all im saying is if subaru put the ic spray into there cars then its for a reason, maybe some of you like a tickle there again so do queers
Well then go to the correct section General Technical!
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Look mate I do not want to get into a slanging match, believe me there are bigger fish in here. Don't take everything so seriously! Chill, laugh with us life is too short to be making foes on the internet! Pete is a ***** cat he likes his tummy tickling every now and again.
Pete, Pete where are yooohoo? I will gladly do the tickling
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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The detail is here, but you need to navigate around some of the bumps in the 'road'.

So far:

My hill climber has 407 bhp x 380 lbft.
It had an Sti V8 TMIC with the home built water spray (and ice cubes DO make a difference)
That output tapers off very quickly however when the heat build-up over whelms (sp) the TMIC.ie 5 power runs at Well Lane.

I installed a Hybrid FMIC over the winter, and relocated the water spray to spray at the hot side of the FMIC.
After a remap by AndyF the boost enters a full 1000 rpm lower down, a real result, BUT ALSO the performance is sustained far far longer than the TMIC.

The FMIC has the larger capacity, thinner wall construction (less thermal inertia) massive air flow in comparison and is much easier to cool in the right areas.
And I still use ice cubes.

Because pictures speak a lot of words:
http://www.dropshots.com/daymainfram...0030101&cimg=0


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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
people look on this site for information not as a joke all im saying is if subaru put the ic spray into there cars then its for a reason, maybe some of you like a tickle there again so do queers
Oh so here we have Mr Macho **** all the local birds

Don't make nasty comments about sexual orientation, you wouldn't do it about ethnic or race on a public forum would you

Get back to the dark ages THIS IS 2006
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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love to talk about ethnic or race bring it on
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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are u one of the ones who been let out
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
are u one of the ones who been let out
Is the teaching of grammar a problem in Eastbourne? Letters and numbers are free on a BBS.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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im dyslexic so what im sure u not purfect
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
im dyslexic so what im sure u not purfect
Dyslexia is not an excuse to behave like a spoilt child.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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so by saying that subaru know what they doing and you are talking out your **** by saying they dont is acting like a spoilt child then so be it bet you have a flamer as well lol
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
so by saying that subaru know what they doing and you are talking out your **** by saying they dont is acting like a spoilt child then so be it bet you have a flamer as well lol

OY

Nowt wrong with flamer kits
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Good thread, made me laugh and it's useful.

I could have done with the IC spray when I had a top mount. Wasn't uncommon to see charge temps up around 60-70degrees sitting in traffic in the summer.

WRC cars off set the weight added with the amount of water they carry against the power advantage of using it to get maximum effect.

Someone posted they used it on a rally car at over 70% throttle, not ideal as it needs to be linked with charge temp/boost press/throttle otherwise you're just wasting water. A good ecu such as gems has the tables to control this for you.

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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
so by saying that subaru know what they doing and you are talking out your **** by saying they dont is acting like a spoilt child then so be it bet you have a flamer as well lol
Can you add punctuation please? I can't make sense of that.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
so by saying that subaru know what they doing and you are talking out your **** by saying they dont is acting like a spoilt child then so be it bet you have a flamer as well lol
Yes I do, and I use it to 'flame' people like you! At what point did I say Subaru don't know what they are doing?! I was just having a bit of banter that's all, is it a crime to inject a little humour into some of the threads! I am not disputing the properties of water against air, there are enough people better equipped than me to do that. I was having a laugh ! Was being the operative word as it has ceased to be so! Satisfied!!
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Old May 25, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hamyam
im dyslexic so what im sure u not purfect
Dyslexic, if you actually are, does not give you free reign to post idiotic comments. Dyslexia, as I know it, does not constitute being ****e at spelling and grammar.

That's just called thick.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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chaps i think perhaps certain mischievous individuals have distrcated most from the original point of the thread.

A world leading brand whom are fully commercially aware would not fit something to a car if they felt did not add either a safety/performance benefit or made the car more attractive to buyers.

Take it easy

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Old May 25, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Capita: 10/10
Please see my response #104 to try to get techie

Done my bit to smooth the road.

Off back to Tech section as previously suggested (quite reasonably) above to someone else.
That is the great thing about this Snet, you can find your own 'spot' that meets your expectations.

I hope someone wins from all this!

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Old May 25, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Homemade WRX
as a rough fact water can transfer heat a rate of 5 times that of air...so yes, you get cooler, denser air
The heat transfer properties of water are mostly irrelevant.

Intercooler water spray is only effective IF the intercooler is intermittently sprayed with water - the finer the mist the better (Aquamist pumps and nozzles would be effective here).

The cooling effect comes from the phase transition from liquid to vapour which takes a huge amount of heat out out of the intercooler.

A saturated intercooler is barely more efficient than a dry intercooler.

The very best systems use a combination of heat and boost - conserving water and not requiring the use of an on/off button as you tear along the road.

Someone on 22b.com did some specific charge temperature tests and a decent system created a great improvement.

Best results come from NO2/CO2 systems which freeze the intercooler - they are expensive and inconvenient however!

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Old May 25, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by capita
A world leading brand whom are fully commercially aware would not fit something to a car if they felt did not add either a safety/performance benefit or made the car more attractive to buyers.
That doesnt really answer the question?? Even if something is completely useless but many potential customers think its cool isnt it therfore "Attractive" ??...

Anyway.. I still think it has a use, albeit not particularly under normal road conditions.
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