Is having an opinion allowed?
16 April 2006, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Etiquette in posts goes a very long way. Something many users of Scoobynet never even concieve or understand the concept, yet alone use when posting.
Spouting off with a chip on your shoulder at how people p**s you off and calling so and so a t***, instead of keeping it amicable. Even in the face of abuse, it can make a huge difference to the replys to your posts.
Take a leaf out of Leslie's or BillBill's book....Have you ever seen them rise to the bait and drop beneath their level? I have never seen it myself. An admirable characteristic when faced with users constantly nit picking your posts for holes in your opinions, or by intentionally misinterpreting the context of the post.
Me? Well, when faced with abuse, I toy with them. If someone starts at me, I grab them by the horns with a huge grin on my face - I love it! Sad, I know, but it passes the time.
Spouting off with a chip on your shoulder at how people p**s you off and calling so and so a t***, instead of keeping it amicable. Even in the face of abuse, it can make a huge difference to the replys to your posts.
Take a leaf out of Leslie's or BillBill's book....Have you ever seen them rise to the bait and drop beneath their level? I have never seen it myself. An admirable characteristic when faced with users constantly nit picking your posts for holes in your opinions, or by intentionally misinterpreting the context of the post.
Me? Well, when faced with abuse, I toy with them. If someone starts at me, I grab them by the horns with a huge grin on my face - I love it! Sad, I know, but it passes the time.
16 April 2006, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Etiquette in posts goes a very long way. Something many users of Scoobynet never even concieve or understand the concept, yet alone use when posting.
Spouting off with a chip on your shoulder at how people p**s you off and calling so and so a t***, instead of keeping it amicable. Even in the face of abuse, it can make a huge difference to the replys to your posts.
Take a leaf out of Leslie's or BillBill's book....Have you ever seen them rise to the bait and drop beneath their level? I have never seen it myself. An admirable characteristic when faced with users constantly nit picking your posts for holes in your opinions, or by intentionally misinterpreting the context of the post.
Me? Well, when faced with abuse, I toy with them. If someone starts at me, I grab them by the horns with a huge grin on my face - I love it! Sad, I know, but it passes the time.
Spouting off with a chip on your shoulder at how people p**s you off and calling so and so a t***, instead of keeping it amicable. Even in the face of abuse, it can make a huge difference to the replys to your posts.
Take a leaf out of Leslie's or BillBill's book....Have you ever seen them rise to the bait and drop beneath their level? I have never seen it myself. An admirable characteristic when faced with users constantly nit picking your posts for holes in your opinions, or by intentionally misinterpreting the context of the post.
Me? Well, when faced with abuse, I toy with them. If someone starts at me, I grab them by the horns with a huge grin on my face - I love it! Sad, I know, but it passes the time.
I just don't think it's fair to associate all horse owners as non "Twiggy" types, and to get offended when I say as such.
I did not intend to offend Steffi, I have spoke to her in the past and did consider her a friend.
I do not need it rammed down my throat that she is qualified in horses. Whether you are big or small does not matter in the horse world, whether you are qualified or not, same thing applies.
In this case, size does not matter
16 April 2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Then what? Why is it crap? Bladdy hell, it's like being in the primary school debating society sometimes.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Then what? Why is it crap? Bladdy hell, it's like being in the primary school debating society sometimes.
16 April 2006, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
You will only get shot down in flames if your argument is flawed or you don't have the capabilty to defend your point of view assertively and convincingly. 
http://www.mindspring.com/~mfpatton/sketch.htm
16 April 2006, 01:14 AM
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16 April 2006, 01:17 AM
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I should add, It goes both ways; How you type a post and also how you read and interpret another's post.
The text in a post can often be read in several different ways - a personal attack, a general attack, a simple objection to ones opinion or sarcasm.
Some users are totally unware that what they type might actually be deeply insulting to another user. It is up to the reader to evaluate if what they are typing is through ignorance of etiquette, out of humour (tounge in cheek/facetious/sarcasm) or actually with any intent (or just trolling).
Like there is two ways of telling someone to "F**K off". Such as when someone makes a joke at your expense you could tell them to "F**K off" as a harmless retort.
On the otherhand you could say it to someone who has made you angry and shout "F**k off" with intent and real anger.
On a bbs we have no body language or vocal tone. So a reader can only establish context and emotion though text and smilies. So if misused, it can lead to some interesting flame wars
Oh, and F**K off you Taffy git!
The text in a post can often be read in several different ways - a personal attack, a general attack, a simple objection to ones opinion or sarcasm.
Some users are totally unware that what they type might actually be deeply insulting to another user. It is up to the reader to evaluate if what they are typing is through ignorance of etiquette, out of humour (tounge in cheek/facetious/sarcasm) or actually with any intent (or just trolling).
Like there is two ways of telling someone to "F**K off". Such as when someone makes a joke at your expense you could tell them to "F**K off" as a harmless retort.
On the otherhand you could say it to someone who has made you angry and shout "F**k off" with intent and real anger.
On a bbs we have no body language or vocal tone. So a reader can only establish context and emotion though text and smilies. So if misused, it can lead to some interesting flame wars
Oh, and F**K off you Taffy git!
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16 April 2006, 01:19 AM
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The intention was not to ridulcule other people. My point was, not to judge those we do not know. My point was that there things about people we dont know from a bbs, but that people were insular enough to believe themselves higher in some form or another. I know people will believe what they want to believe and that its harmful in some peoples minds, but unless person to person knowledge is formed then, you believe what you are told to believe. I have no animosity towards anyone on here, and if they feel that way towards me, that's up to them. Everyone here has a wealth of knowledge, that may benefit someone else. My point is that, if you can help someone else, who cares? Whatever happened to helping those that cant help themselves? There are a lot of selfish gets on here, and its about time this board helped each other.
P.s. Sorry for having an opinion
P.s. Sorry for having an opinion
16 April 2006, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
On a bbs we have no body language or vocal tone. So a reader can only establish context and emotion though text and smilies. So if misused, it can lead to some interesting flame wars
Oh, and F**K off you Taffy git!
Oh, and F**K off you Taffy git!
16 April 2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by steffiraf
Just wondered, in today's day and age, if having an opinion is allowed? I wondered, cos, should anyone post anything on here, they get shot down in flames. Is anyone allowed an opinion at all?
Feel free to say what you feel
Feel free to say what you feel
One should be prepared for it.
But fear not.
Post and either rejoice or,regret.All part of the game,really.
16 April 2006, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
If you don't want to argue, or you want your whole life to be a soufflé of bland, inoffensive interactions, then the kind of people you need to choose will be housed in hostels for the "daft but happy".
16 April 2006, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
They can also be found in the Muppet Forum of an evening
16 April 2006, 10:58 PM
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Nothing wrong with a bit of a debate and difference of opinion, it's when someone starts name calling that you begin to think... what's the point (of posting) if that's what you get in return..
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25 April 2006, 12:11 AM
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Of course having an opinion is allowed - it is what makes Snet - frustrating, amusing, enlightening, addictive and many other things.
My observation is that you are 'upset' because someone had exactly what you are asking for - an opinion. And you didn't like it. Indeed I simply think it was a misunderstanding of what was posted - and that is my opinion.
So yes - everyone can have an opinion and they will sometimes differ from yours. Whether that in any way takes away from your opinion is a matter of your choice.
As someone once said to me - if somebody says something that hurts you then it can only be because you agree with them. Something to think about
My observation is that you are 'upset' because someone had exactly what you are asking for - an opinion. And you didn't like it. Indeed I simply think it was a misunderstanding of what was posted - and that is my opinion.
So yes - everyone can have an opinion and they will sometimes differ from yours. Whether that in any way takes away from your opinion is a matter of your choice.
As someone once said to me - if somebody says something that hurts you then it can only be because you agree with them. Something to think about
25 April 2006, 05:32 AM
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Of course you are allowed to have an opinion. And one should expect expect to be challenged about one's opinion, to back it up with some reasoned thought.
One question asked too little on SN is why someone believes what they do. Instead they launch into an attack, often against the person's character or upbringing rather than at the view held. Threads would be much more interesting if people actually had a debate about issues rather than school yard level name calling.
IMHO
One question asked too little on SN is why someone believes what they do. Instead they launch into an attack, often against the person's character or upbringing rather than at the view held. Threads would be much more interesting if people actually had a debate about issues rather than school yard level name calling.
IMHO
25 April 2006, 06:50 AM
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I just inadvertently deleted my last reply which was a fair few words. 
In short, Steff I think you took 84of300's comments the wrong way, I am not trying to "stick up for her" but I do know that Leslie wouldn't in anyway try to slam someone for having an opinion.
On the horse note though, I am intrigued at what you are saying about them as I come from a very horsey background (been around horses since birth till a few years ago). In my opinion I don't think you can classify "horsey" types in an overall fashion as there are so many different factions of the community.
My mum (by the way she is also fully qualified if that helps) turned away from the normal way of breaking a horse in and went the Monty Roberts way which is the way I learnt to break, school and ride horses - both those that we bought, rescued and bred......ah those were the days <starts daydreaming>
I liked nothing better than hanging around the field and stables in which we kept the horses, spending time with them grazing, going out on solo rides, schooling them in the makeshift arena we had and avoiding schoolwork.
I've got no idea what I was waffling on about as I have gone off on a tangent and I want to get my mum to scan in all the piccies of me with my horses now!
Brit_in_Japan, my thoughts exactly, couldn't have put it better.
In short, Steff I think you took 84of300's comments the wrong way, I am not trying to "stick up for her" but I do know that Leslie wouldn't in anyway try to slam someone for having an opinion.
On the horse note though, I am intrigued at what you are saying about them as I come from a very horsey background (been around horses since birth till a few years ago). In my opinion I don't think you can classify "horsey" types in an overall fashion as there are so many different factions of the community.
My mum (by the way she is also fully qualified if that helps
) turned away from the normal way of breaking a horse in and went the Monty Roberts way which is the way I learnt to break, school and ride horses - both those that we bought, rescued and bred......ah those were the days <starts daydreaming> I liked nothing better than hanging around the field and stables in which we kept the horses, spending time with them grazing, going out on solo rides, schooling them in the makeshift arena we had and avoiding schoolwork.
I've got no idea what I was waffling on about as I have gone off on a tangent and I want to get my mum to scan in all the piccies of me with my horses now!
Brit_in_Japan, my thoughts exactly, couldn't have put it better.
25 April 2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Little Miss WRX
I just inadvertently deleted my last reply which was a fair few words.
In short, Steff I think you took 84of300's comments the wrong way, I am not trying to "stick up for her" but I do know that Leslie wouldn't in anyway try to slam someone for having an opinion.
On the horse note though, I am intrigued at what you are saying about them as I come from a very horsey background (been around horses since birth till a few years ago). In my opinion I don't think you can classify "horsey" types in an overall fashion as there are so many different factions of the community.
My mum (by the way she is also fully qualified if that helps) turned away from the normal way of breaking a horse in and went the Monty Roberts way which is the way I learnt to break, school and ride horses - both those that we bought, rescued and bred......ah those were the days <starts daydreaming>
I liked nothing better than hanging around the field and stables in which we kept the horses, spending time with them grazing, going out on solo rides, schooling them in the makeshift arena we had and avoiding schoolwork.
I've got no idea what I was waffling on about as I have gone off on a tangent and I want to get my mum to scan in all the piccies of me with my horses now!
Brit_in_Japan, my thoughts exactly, couldn't have put it better.
In short, Steff I think you took 84of300's comments the wrong way, I am not trying to "stick up for her" but I do know that Leslie wouldn't in anyway try to slam someone for having an opinion.
On the horse note though, I am intrigued at what you are saying about them as I come from a very horsey background (been around horses since birth till a few years ago). In my opinion I don't think you can classify "horsey" types in an overall fashion as there are so many different factions of the community.
My mum (by the way she is also fully qualified if that helps
) turned away from the normal way of breaking a horse in and went the Monty Roberts way which is the way I learnt to break, school and ride horses - both those that we bought, rescued and bred......ah those were the days <starts daydreaming> I liked nothing better than hanging around the field and stables in which we kept the horses, spending time with them grazing, going out on solo rides, schooling them in the makeshift arena we had and avoiding schoolwork.
I've got no idea what I was waffling on about as I have gone off on a tangent and I want to get my mum to scan in all the piccies of me with my horses now!
Brit_in_Japan, my thoughts exactly, couldn't have put it better.
I know that horsey women love it bareback!
Brit_in_Japan - Couldn't be nearer the mark. Reasons, reasons, reasons. What experience has somebody got to offer an opinion on something?
Why do most people assume every discussion is an argument?
In the case of this thread, it's clear Steffiraf has completely missed the point. 84 *only* said that horsey women aren't all big. That doesn't take 400 years of experience in horse training/ instructing or whatever, to recognise, like Steffiraf suggested.
25 April 2006, 12:17 PM
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Not if you are elderly and at the NL party conference! You run the risk of being hustled out by some great fat arsed prat and being arrested under the "Prevention of Terrorism" act!
Seriously, if you have an opinion, just post it and be ready to squelch those who feel like having a go at you. They are usually taking what you said out of context to make it easy to criticise over some totally unimportant and footling point.
Les
Seriously, if you have an opinion, just post it and be ready to squelch those who feel like having a go at you. They are usually taking what you said out of context to make it easy to criticise over some totally unimportant and footling point.
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